Yeah, all schools should create fake classes to keep kids that can't spell their own names eligible like UNC huh? Isn't that racism? It seems like they assumed those kids weren't smart enough to pass legit classes. Looks like racial profiling to me.
So.........How long before BBN runs Keion out of town....
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If uk was so racist, Tubby wouldn’t be in the UK-HOF or even hired as a coach.
Heck, the way you guys are talking, I'm amazed UK is even allowing their coaches to recruit black players.
I really don't know the answers to these questions and neither do you, but I'm not going to claim racism when I don’t know the facts and you shouldn't either. It’s what you are hinting at.
You don’t see the difference between what Pitino did and what Tubby did? Seems like you're struggling with that and I really dgas that Pitino went to UofL after Boston, what he did at UK was incredible.
Judging from your answer, you can’t think of another school either.
Sad when a player is told that he can’t date outside of his own race because of the redneck fans.
UNC fans calling UK fans rednecks....tell deborah i said hi and that her dallas cowboy tattoo is still holding up well
Media wasn’t allowed in the locker rooms during the 1966 title game.
and the infamous effigy thing is also false
from the words of UK historian Jon Scott
FYI, when this story came out in 2009, I thought I had heard it all. This was shocking to me, because it seemed so blatant and even moreso because I had never even heard a whiff of a rumor of this and it seemed to come completely out of the blue.
The good news is that because it was a fresh charge, I was able to follow up with all concerned parties, although it took a while. I was able to talk directly to Tim Bassett, a handful of Bassett's teammates, a few people who had worked at Georgia at the time along with a few Kentucky people (including Russell Rice) who were at UK at the time in question. Beyond that I spoke with the author of the article (Chris Hine) along with the sports editor of the New York Times (Tom Jolly). The only key persons of interest I wasn't able to talk to were the coaches, as both Rupp and Georgia's coach Ken Rosemond had long passed away.
I talk about this charge on my Rupp page in it's own section
Rupp Page: Tim Bassett
Bottom line is that Bassett maintained to me that he saw 'something' but he couldn't describe what it was, where exactly it was placed in the arena, nor explain why he thought it was Rupp who placed it there, and he didn't investigate further.
None of his teammates that I spoke to remember this supposed incident, and more critically none remember offering to sit out the game over such an incident. Kentucky officials vehemently deny any such thing ever occurred and in fact were upset that anyone would actually believe it. No one else from Georgia remembers such an event.
I also scoured the media reports from the time, both UK and Georgia (including the student newspapers) and there was no hint of anything unusual. It is true that Rupp was upset with Bassett as he had outplayed Jim Andrews the game before and bragged about it publicly to the media, saying Andrews was a bad defensive player.
As far as the claim that Rupp told Bassett he didn't belong in the Southeastern Conference, if it's true it likely wasn't due to his skin color because at that time most of the Conference had already been integrated (including Kentucky the year before, something Bassett may not have been aware of since he was a Junior College transfer).
I don't like to call people liars but there literally is no evidence to back up Bassett's explosive claim, and frankly it doesn't pass the smell test. The year prior to this Barry Jacobs published an entire book about integration of ACC and SEC schools with an entire chapter devoted to Georgia where he extensively interviewed both Ronnie Hogue (who was at UGa the previous year and was their 1st black player) and Bassett (who came the following year as a JC transfer) and this incident wasn't even mentioned.
As far as the New York Times, the author (Chris Hine) was an intern at the time who soon thereafter moved to a more permanent job in Chicago. I was able to track him down and he told me that he had many of the same questions and concerns about the claim that I had. Like me he was unable to verify the claim and intended to remove it from the draft, however according to him the Times decided to go ahead and run the draft without his knowledge or sign-off.
The sports editor (Tom Jolly) refused to print a retraction and claimed that he wanted to investigate the claim himself. Despite my help in providing contact information to Bassett and others, he never confirmed anything either. FYI, the Duke Lacrosse story came out under his watch around the same time and the blowback from that led to him being reassigned by the paper.
This is why it's important to read the whole thread before posting. I read your post, new you meant John and was about to respond, but....I kept reading.
Also, There's a lot of ppl in the UKHOF that's not in the rafters. Outside of the Unforgettables, we don't whore out banners in the rafters. Again, Tubby in the rafters has been talked about for a while and I'd guess within the next three years. JMO.
Lots of stupid shit happened in the Eddie Sutton era and someone thought it was a good idea for Rex to keep he's relationship private to avoid some of the things that were happening and being said to him. It wasn't because they didn’t like black people, like you are alluding to. It wasn't a racist thing, but you keep acting like a moron.
A good example of racism, is assuming your black athletes couldn’t possibly pass legit college courses, so you create fake African american history classes where instructors did the work for them. Now that’s some racism right there.
I still can't believe you show your face here, aren't you embarrassed? You created a fake girlfriend and a fake life. Wow.
Guy has made up his narrative a long time ago. He's been trying to sell it for a while now. No buyers yet, but it's not stopped him from giving up. For that I applaud him. Fake wife be damned. Nothing will keep him from UK threads.
*Note. I noticed most ppl over the years quit trolling other teams, they tend to talk about achievements of their own...but not some.
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Yeah that's him.
If I showed him a picture of a doughnut, a vagina and a mop, he would not be able to identify which one was the vagina.
I actually don't think it is, but that's neither here or there. I don't mind him so much, It's just fun to razz him a bit. He's honest in his miserable hatred and I like to see the ongoing resentment from some other fans.
Hey Rex, listen you cant date anymore black girls, only white girls, but hey man it’s not a race thing. Lol damn. But in all honesty that really is a different conversation imo.
I know plenty of people (mostly older) that no one would peg as racists, both black and white people, that don’t believe in inter racial dating. I think that’s one of those grey areas where everyone has their own opinion, and it’s not so black and white (no pun intended). Personally I think it’s racist bc that mindset implies, to me at least, that one race is better than the other thus they shouldn’t be mixed.
But like I said, I can see where this subject can be a bit trickier, even more so 30 or how many ever years ago he was in college.
I know plenty of people (mostly older) that no one would peg as racists, both black and white people, that don’t believe in inter racial dating. I think that’s one of those grey areas where everyone has their own opinion, and it’s not so black and white (no pun intended). Personally I think it’s racist bc that mindset implies, to me at least, that one race is better than the other thus they shouldn’t be mixed.
But like I said, I can see where this subject can be a bit trickier, even more so 30 or how many ever years ago he was in college.
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You really think they told him to "only date white girls"? I don't doubt some might have snubbed their nose at the time, but let's not let those few speak for an entire basketball program. That's just foolish.
Rex has always been a victim, attention seeker, and race baiter. He still is. He wants attention from anywhere he can get. Fortunately he was good at basketball. I don't dislike him,I just see through his motivation. Some just need a new high.
*What am I doing, I'm trying to reason with UK haters. I should know better. Run with the narrative you want.
Touche. I have no vested interest in whether or not they change the name of the arena, or whether or not Rupp was a racist or not. I wasn’t alive, I’m not even sure I could point out a picture of Rupp in a lineup. I just found it amusing that UK fans were so quick to defend his racial views, when there is so much smoke out there from people that actually knew him, that points to him being a racist.
And I can see where 90% of people back then would probably be considered racist in today’s climate.
I read an interesting quote from a doc about nazi war criminals. Paraphrasing, but dude basically said. If your in a group of 100 men, your friends and colleagues, and the first 99 kill a Jew, by the time the gun is passed to you, it feels like the right thing to do. And those MFers were going genocide on a race of people, not just calling them names. (Or religion, Idk where you draw the line there if Jewish people were a race or religious sect)
SMH.
I'm convinced you know what you're doing. You play it coy so kudos. (hide behind pacing sentences and not just come right out directly)
If I ever take interest in our rival enough to post/follow them, I'll try and work in a take that compares them to Nazi's.
Would never happen due to reading UL's history is like reading a Playboy. I have no interest.
*I guess it comes with the territory of being #1 All Time. I don't have to tear down other teams. I can let their on court work speak for themselves. Which comes up short.
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That’s not how it went down. That's not what was said. Rex was getting somewhat harassed out in public, because he was during black girls. His car was keyed and some nasty comments were hurled his way.
So a member of the UK staff suggested he keep his relationships with black girls on the down low, or don't date them. They didn’t come up to him and tell him he flat out couldn't do it.
Leave it to
Yeah, I had to read that post twice to confirm what I thought the first time was true. Yikes.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=2061773
I’m sure UK fans will have an excuse for this.
I’m sure UK fans will have an excuse for this.
Yeah, but are any of them former basketball coaches?This is why it's important to read the whole thread before posting. I read your post, new you meant John and was about to respond, but....I kept reading.
Also, There's a lot of ppl in the UKHOF that's not in the rafters. Outside of the Unforgettables, we don't whore out banners in the rafters. Again, Tubby in the rafters has been talked about for a while and I'd guess within the next three years. JMO.
Sure I do...But you said, had Tubby stayed at UK....or spent his entire career there....retired from there, then he's probably in the HOF. My point is, Pitino did none of those....So that means Rick is in the rafters SOLELY due to what he did on the court. As he should be...So I ask----is not what Tubby did,solely on the court, good enough? If Rick was judge solely for what he did(on the floor), why does Tubby have to meet criteria that Rick did not? Why does having to retire from UK...spending his entire career there, not having multiple jobs, come into play? Dude won 263 games, at a 76% clip....9 total SEC titles....went to 4 Elite 8's...Never missed the NCAAT...And won a national title.. So why use the excuse of, "he didn't retire from UK, etc, etc...? As to why he is not in the rafters?
You said plenty of people are in the UK HOF, that are not in the rafters....SO I asked, Are any of those in the HOF, that are not in the rafters, fromer basketball coaches? Former coaches that won as Tubby did....
Well no. But your talking about a very selective group. You know this.
Tubby left in the dark of night. Tubby is responsible for our longest FF drought, Tubby gave up on recruiting.
It was time for Tubby to leave. Kentucky isn't for everyone.
Saying that doesn't mean some f#ckwad saying I'm shitting on Tubby. I liked him. He was really close to a FF a few years. He just wasn't cut out for UK like IU wasn't cut out for some coaches since Knight.
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Huh? Did Tubby come in when UK was on probation? Did Tubby orchestrate the 92 run with a bunch of Joe's and damn near win, what might be, the greatest college basketball game of all time?
Did Tubby build the program into a position to damn near 3 peat?
No, he took what Pitino built and won a title with it, then he went mediocre for the rest of his time at UK.
He won a bunch of regular season games, but no more final fours and no more titles. He also wasn't part of Rupp's coaching staff like Hall was. Hall, like Cawood and Keightly, was a staple of the program that did far more than Tubby to shape UK into what it is today.
Sorry to shoot down this racist narrative here, but Hall and Pitino made much bigger impacts on UK than Tubby did. If Hall and/or Pitino were black, they would STILL be in the rafters.
Let me guess, Jamal Mashburn, Jack Givens, Kenny Walker, Sean Woods, Sam Bowie and Tony Delk are secretly white?
If UK isn't putting a retired Tubby jersey in the rafters, because they're racists, then how the f*ck is Sean damn Woods' jersey in the rafters?
In my best Rex voice;
I was raised in a projects of Kentucky. I saw how UL and UK was different based on race. City schools was first hand proof.
Rex talks about how he was a part of the AA community due to hanging out with them.
That's the problem.
He's using AA community to boost his self worth.
I'm not completely sure why I'm shitting on Rex. I just feel what he's doing is wrong. It'd be the same if he was posting far right videos.
I was raised in a projects of Kentucky. I saw how UL and UK was different based on race. City schools was first hand proof.
Rex talks about how he was a part of the AA community due to hanging out with them.
That's the problem.
He's using AA community to boost his self worth.
I'm not completely sure why I'm shitting on Rex. I just feel what he's doing is wrong. It'd be the same if he was posting far right videos.
Just work hard, take care of your body, and provide a great environment to your surroundings and not alienate anyone, and i think we can get through this.
Dude, you said Tubby is not in the rafters b/c he, A) Didn't retire from UK, B) Left UK, C) Coached somehwere else....You said had he did those, he would be in the rafters...
Why? Why not judge him solely on what he did on the floor? Obviously Pitino is in the rafters for what he did---Which was much, much better. But that is not the point. No Tubby is not on Ricks level...But that doesn't mean the level he was on, isn't worthy of being in the Rafters....UK put him in their HOF for his coaching----In their HALL OF FAME----FOR HIS COACHING...So he's good enough to be in the HOF, AS A COACH, but not good enough to have his name in the RAFTERS?
Sean Woods in the rafters b/c he was part of a very, very special group...Not b.c he was some stud, i.e. Pelphrey, Farmer, etc, etc...
Nope Tubby didn't pull a 1992....But his job in 1998 was pretty damn good. And he didn't have a Jamal Mashburn.
Good shit.
UK fans became more infatuated with FF's and banners during the internet age. Also recruiting.
I thought the '03 team winning it all w/o Bogans ankle sprain would have changed everything.
"In the dark of the night"? Dude----really? Wow...
Rupp went to ONE Final Four in his last 14 seasons: From 1959 to 1972, UK went to one FF---1966.
BTW, if it were time for Tubby to leave---then why are ya'll mad he did just that?
I just think the dude belongs in the Rafters...Do I think its wide-spread racism that is keeping him out? Nope. Not even close. Do I think it could POSSIBLY be a pereosn of power that COULD be racist, and this person isn't giving in?
Possible.
His numbers were good enough for him to be enshrined in UK's HOF, as a COACH. Its weird to me that those same numbers aren't good enough to have his name in the rafters...
JMO...
