- Sep 8, 2012
Cal's reputation didn’t come from not holding kids at Memphis accountable for shit they did at home, in fact, I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that 90% of the country knows nothing about that crap. Hell, I didn't and I follow cbb pretty religiously.I don’t think strippers/hookers provided by a grad coach are any worse than University employed Hostesses that do the same thing strippers and hookers do, except they don’t get the extra $$$.
Recruits or current players don’t just call girls over to hang out and the recruits just happen to always get lucky, it’s just as arranged as what McGee did. Look into some of the hostess allegations at various schools, like Okie state. Mind blowing the ADs would treat STUDENTS of the university as sex workers, but it happens. Does that excuse what McGee did, of course not, but I think if the average Joe knew what went on during most recruiting visits they would be pretty appalled, and not as disgusted at what went down over “strippergate”. Also since we are talking about what the ncaa could prove, technically they could only prove McGee provided stripper parties, not actual sex for money, but even as a cards fan I find that hard to believe.
Now in a perfect world, yea both are morally repulsive to some, no argument there, but it doesn’t mean it’s not going on anyway, and has been for decades (see jalen rose comments). And again I don’t think Pitino had a clue about McGee and Powell’s relationship, but I have no clue in reality. I just don’t think Pitino is THAT stupid, but I could be wrong, I have before, many times.
But no I’m not saying anything positive about Pitinos reputation. He’s been proven to a pretty big pos by the sypher stuff alone, I was just answering the other guys question on why people see Pitino and cal in the same light despite the ncaa saying cal is “clean as a whistle”.
Cals reputation came from not suspending players at Memphis that had multiple allegations of domestic abuse, accompanied with pictures of girls with bruises and broken bones in their face In the police reports that followed (the most famous example was a guard named Hunt, if u care or think I’m making ish up), but he wasn’t the only one . Or Cal handing down 1 game suspensions for pissing hot bc the conf tourney was 1 game away. Then there was the time when the players dorm at Memphis got robbed (by hookers lol) the original police report had the players reporting up to $40k worth of fur coats missing, before someone with some sense got there and amended the estimate bc they knew how bad it would look if the Memphis basketball team had 40k worth of fur coats stolen. And it’s not that fur coats weren’t cool, it’s that there’s no way they should have been able to afford 40k worth of fur coats between 12 scholarship players, unless they were getting paid under the table. And that’s just the ones I remember. He was viewed as a coach that let the inmates run the asylum as the old quote goes.
And he’s got plenty of skeletons in his closet as far as adultry goes as well, but that’s not really the point.
But again all that is ancient and has zero to do with UK. It’s just why people who have followed the game a long time think Cal is/was/always has been dirty. There have been a few cases at Uk like Willis and jones possible duis or whatever but those were super minor compared to the all stuff at memphis, and those likely would have been covered up at any college regardless of The coach.
And like I said I personally believe damn near every big time coach out there is dirty or bends the rules or provides impermissable benefits through their shoe company. I don’t really care to try to figure out whose driving the bus. It’s just asinine the ncaa tries to run a billion dollar sports industry under the guise of amateurism.
Cal's reputation comes from the 2 vacated seasons and the IDGAF attitude he had at UMass and Memphis when he was trying to make a name for himself.
So, you're trying to say that the stripper parties that went on at UL were not much different than what goes on during a typical recruiting visit? Come on man, no way no how. Dude was getting the money from "coach Mike". Those parties were funded and those weren't college coeds.
I've never been on a recruiting trip myself, but I find it hard to believe that anything similar is happening "everywhere".
Are you saying the NCAA is just targeting UL? They're just singling UL out??? Come onnnn.