Dude, sorry, just can't agree. I don't think I said anything about you defending her or not. I just absolutely think you are wrong if you are maintaining that the planet of the apes comment had nothing to do with Jarrett being black, and I think if you believe that you are maybe the 1% of American, right or left, who does. I don't think it was a joke in that there was no build, no punchline... there were no hallmarks of "joke". I don't know WHAT it was, to be honest? I don't know... I can't actually believe that Roseanne is some big racist, but shit, who knows... I'm honestly befuddled by her at this point, and struggling to figure out what she was doing.