Place to put my Nonsense Thread.
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Semantics, but he slapped him (open hand), really pushed his face more than anything. Semantics, though. He did strike him and did take his non-lethal weapon. It’s non-lethal in three ways: 1) that’s literally how police define it 2) it’s pretty clear he had no intent to cause the officer’s death or severe bodily harm, 3) at the time the officer decided to shoot, the taser was only a weapon in the sense that it could be thrown; its zappy zappies were all done. As we established earlier, without intent to kill with an object that is otherwise non-lethal that object cannot be described as a lethal weapon.
Anyway, if that situation doesn’t meet your requirement for ‘just resisting’ then no real world situation will. You win? I guess?
Did he not do everything in his power to get shot, short of shooting himself? Wtf... he literally did everything in the “how to get shot handbook!” Like....everything. If you asked anyone in America if you could reasonably be expected to get shot if you did A..B...and C—-he ****ing did it.
I have a step sister who got arrested for DUI, the cop when on another call with her in the back seat (small town in the 80's), and while the cop was dealing with the disturbance, she crawled threw the glass and drove the cop car up to the cop and the disturbance so she could hear the gossip. True story and she wasn't shot, and she is white.
There’s nothing between willingly being arrested and hitting the cop in the face and stealing his weapon? What?
Hitting an officer is not supposed to get you shot. Holding a taser that can’t taser isn’t supposed to get you shot. Running away isn’t supposed to get you shot.
Punching someone in the face shouldn't warrant the death penalty.
Remember when car chases would break in during a show or game?
Kind of exciting to watch the ending.
Kind of exciting to watch the ending.
He didn’t do anything that is supposed to get you shot. Did he do stuff that is supposed to get you tackled and tased and put in prison? Hell yes.
I think for a person to resist arrest and get shot and you to be on that person’s side, it would have to be the most passive resistance ever. I don’t think that situation exists, is what I’m saying.
I get both points of view and everyone is basically saying the same thing. But, it's like watching the same news story on two different media channels.
You string enough **** ups in row....where’s the cutoff? You think your getting highly trained soldiers policing the countries idiots for 39k a yr. I think it’s completely reasonable to fully expect to get shot doing what he did. If you’re that dumb to do everything he did...starting at endangering every persons life by driving almost completely incompacitated, followed by endangering every bodies life in the general area by resisting arrest, assaulting officers, grabbing an officers weapon where shots will reasonably be fired in a public area—-sorry, but not a lot of sympathy here.
That's the thing with manhunts. Usually when someone gets away without getting shot, bad shit tends to happen. IE, high speed car chases. I drive regularly on instates and outer belts. I'd pissed if the guy that hit me didn't get shot when doing everything that guy did.
I should rephrase, I don't want my inconvenience of being hit and changing everything on my end to cause someones life in retrospect, but ppl are not thinking of those who are put in harms way when the cops don't deescalate situations.
Not sympathizing is one thing. But some of you guys are pretty cavalier with people’s lives. The bottom line is that he wasn’t a threat to anybody’s life when he was shot. That’s the test. Officers are only supposed to kill people who are imminent threats to severely harm or kill somebody. He was running away and holding a piece of yellow plastic. Officers can’t punish, so any killing based on the fact he previously struck the officer or drank and drove or resisted arrest or fired a taser and missed would be illegal.
Was he cavalier with the lives of others when he chose to drive drunk? Yes, he was. But DUIs don’t result in the death penalty, last I checked. Was he an imminent threat to either of the officer’s lives at any point? I don’t think so.
In what way? The officer knew (should have known) the taser missed and had no more charges left.
He will argue he didn’t know, but it’s not calculus. He had to count to 2. Guys in war zones being shot at by tanks can count to 2.
Edit: even if he thought the taser had a charge left, it wasn’t an imminent threat to his life or the life of others; so the shooting would still be unjustified. He will likely get off based on qualified immunity, though, which amounts to ‘I think I thought he might do something harmful to someone at some point with something, so I killed him and that’s okay.’ Courts: You’re a cop, so that’s okay. Good job
I feel like I could be a truck driver. I couldn’t be a cop. I wouldn’t be able to enforce a lot of the low-level crimes or minor traffic offenses, which I imagine are 90% of the job.
Just be a Carl from shameless and only write tickets to rich ppl. Rich profiling should be a thing.
Some European country pegs the fine for speeding to a percentage of the speeder’s income. Pretty clever way to do it.
I'm told I get my nipples from my Grandmother. Tuckers blessed me with hips and distinct nipples.
You working with two pieces of bologna or what?
I'd be all for that. Makes perfect sense and it should be applied to all fines. Jail sentences not so much.
I hadn't thought about a sliding scale fines, but it does make perfect sense. No need to make it harsher for the working (wo)man.
Over time I've learned to work with what I was insecure about at one point. Foreskin mainly. That took a while but now I can do party tricks.
Thanks libs.
You think someone should go to prison for just resisting arrest?
Or do you agree now that he was doing more than just resisting arrest?
I’m responding to bignish saying that I think it’s okay for people to be shot for just resisting arrest. I asked for an example of where I did that. Rayshard Brooks isn’t an example of that. Whether or not you agree the cop was justified, you’d have to be a ****ing idiot to think punching a cop and stealing their weapon is *just* resisting arrest.
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I’m not going to pretend to have intimate knowledge of sentencing, but I would think committing a misdemeanor that can carry a jail/prison sentence with resisting arrest, which can carry a jail/prison sentence, would have a decent chance of landing you in jail/prison for a few months.
Do you think Brooks deserved to be shot despite not posing a threat to the officer’s life?
The humanization is a nice touch. We don't know any of these ppl. Their life instant becomes a shameless selling point.
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