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Jacob Blake protests: Fires light up Kenosha streets as protesters defy emergency curfew
From last week:
Protesters Demand Firing of Kenosha Officer Who Shot Jacob Blake
Protesters Demand Firing of Kenosha Officer Who Shot Jacob Blake
Family members of Jacob Blake and supporters gathered outside the Kenosha Police Department Sunday to demand the firing of the police officer who shot Blake during a confrontation caught on video last summer.
www.nbcchicago.com
Maybe LeBron changed his mind after the facts came out. (Spoiler alert: nope)
Some other-decision takes:
Shoot first, detain second. Aside from, uh, the part where they tried to arrest him and use tasers twice when resisted.
Reread my first post. You’re such a troll. 😂
Have a good one, bud.
Have any of these famous people who talked out of their asses without caring about the details of the situation come back and changed their stances? Like, I spoke too soon and it turns out the officers did attempt non lethal force unsuccessfully and did what they were given no choice but to do to protect themselves and the children.?? Something like that?
if I don’t respond to his ten posts about Kenosha, do you think he’ll call me out?
Yes, I'm responding to this:
"However, this article just shows that all sides love to blame others when they do dumb shit."
Some fringe conservatives and family blame the cop in Babbitt's case. As I've shown, it doesn't hold a candle to the amount of people who put blame on the cop in the Jacob Blake case.
Probably not. James Woods and Ted Nugent pushed false conspiracy theories that I don’t think they walked back.
People don’t like admitting they’re wrong on the internet. Go figure.
It's not just people. It's the Black Lives Matter Global Network, too. What do you think about this statement?
“It comes as no surprise that Kenosha police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged for his attempted murder of Jacob Blake, because there is no criminal justice system that works for Black people, and there is no safety or justice in America for Black people.
“The shooting of Jacob seven times in front of his children is yet another example of police violence against Black people in our country and the blatant disregard for Black life. District Attorney Graveley had the opportunity to provide justice for Jacob and his family but has instead chosen to fuel the racially charged agenda to overpolice and criminalize Black people in America.
Sometimes groups are wrong and sometimes they have people who suck and it doesn’t delegitimize the purpose of the group.
Some groups get called out. And some just get to propagate false ideologies and lies without accountability while their founders get ro buy multi million dollar homes in the name of social justice.
If brooky is swinging the bat, rest assured, it's non-lethal.
Well, it appears we need a PSA re-educating the general public on wtf happens when you don't comply with officers in dangerous situations. It should be no surprise to anyone when stuff like this happens b/c it is easily avoidable. #1: don't break common sense laws and be a POS. #2 Comply with officers commands and sort your guilt or innocence out legally and rationally.
And a big MF'ing #3-- Lets set some GD boundries and some real life consequences for people screaming obscenities in officers faces.
Just like a lot of groups, BLM is bs. Groups have beliefs and the facts be damned. A group will take that belief and try to push it onto society. I have no problem with protests. They serve well when basing them on facts. But when a large group creates a perception, based on beliefs and ignoring facts and pushing that on our society, then its a problem. It disrupts and divides based on ignorance.
Religion has been a problem since its inception. The state of our politics is just crazy lol.
A lot of people like to be part of groups. It makes them feel important lol.
Religion has been a problem since its inception. The state of our politics is just crazy lol.
A lot of people like to be part of groups. It makes them feel important lol.
Is this a false equivalence? It could be easily argued that the opinions expressed in both groups resulted in real world harmful actions. Both groups based their opinions on falsehoods, knowingly or unknowingly. Both groups are reluctant to admit when they’re wrong.
As an aside, are there any people who are fans of false equivalencies?
Did you know you cant bring conch shells on planes b/c they can be a lethal weapon?
BLM gets called out by what is, at worst, 40% of the news media (the Conservative part).
Source: Betty White
Freedom of speech is pretty near and dear to the nation’s heart. I don’t think we want people being arrested for saying, “Fvck you, you cop piece of shit pussy ass bitch ho.”
‘Don’t break laws and you won’t get hurt’ is a useless thing to communicate. Grass is green. Should we let people know?
Likewise, people know they’re supposed to comply with officer’s demands. Officers also have a set of rules they’re supposed to follow when people don’t comply. If a kid sticks their hand in the cookie jar when they’re not supposed to and their mom slaps their hand, that’s fair. Don’t stick your hand in the cookie jar. When a kid sticks their hand in the cookie jar and the mom hits them in the head with a brick, the kid’s wrong-doing pales in comparison to mom’s wrongdoing.
He should have been shot either way. What was the officer suppossed to do---let a crazy man with a knife get near kids?Situation:
Officer Sheskey obtained a description of Jacob Blake and knew he would have to arrest Jacob Blake on the warrant if he encountered him.
When officers arrived, Laquisha Booker flagged them down and shouted statements identifying Jacob Blake as the other person involved and indicating that he was trying to take her car, stating, “My kids are in the car.”
Officer Sheskey saw Jacob Blake and saw him putting a child in the back of the vehicle in question, a gray Dodge SUV.
Officer Sheskey immediately attempted to arrest Jacob Blake based on his active warrant and was quickly assisted by Officer Arenas and Officer Meronek.
Jacob Blake knew there was a warrant out for his arrest.
Jacob Blake did not comply with the verbal commands of officers as they attempted to arrest him.
When the officers attempted to physically restrain Jacob Blake, he resisted, physically struggling with officers.
Officers brought Jacob Blake to the ground, but he was able to get off the ground and to get away from the officers trying to arrest him.
During this struggle, Officer Sheskey and Officer Arenas both attempted to subdue Jacob Blake by deploying their tasers.
Both times that Jacob Blake was struck with the tasers, he ripped out the taser wires/prongs making the tasers ineffective against him.
Officer Sheskey also attempted to drive stun Jacob Blake with his taser by applying the taser to Jacob Blake’s neck/back area, but that too was ineffective.
As he resisted arrest, Jacob Blake was armed with a knife.
By the time he was walking in front of the SUV, the knife was opened and the blade was exposed.
Jacob Blake did not comply with police commands to drop the knife.
Jacob Blake tried to enter the driver’s door of the SUV.
The SUV had been rented by Laquisha Booker in her name and Laquisha Booker had indicated to police that Jacob Blake did not have permission to drive the vehicle.
There were children in the SUV who Laquisha Booker had yelled were her children.
Jacob Blake had the opened knife in his right hand and was attempting to escape from Officer Sheskey’s grasp and enter the driver’s side of the SUV.
Both Officer Sheskey and Officer Arenas stated that in the moment before Officer Sheskey opened fire, Jacob Blake twisted his body, moving his right hand with the knife towards Officer Sheskey.
Two citizen witnesses saw Jacob Blake’s body turn in a manner that appears consistent with what the officers described.
Officer Sheskey shot Jacob Blake seven times in total. There were four entrance wounds to Jacob Blake’s back and three entrance wounds to his left side (flank).
Officer Sheskey stated that he fired shots until Jacob Blake dropped the knife. Noble Wray explained this is consistent with law enforcement training where officers are instructed to continue shooting until they stop the threat.
Conclusion?
I don’t think we want people being arrested for saying, “Fvck you, you cop piece of shit pussy ass bitch ho.”
Actually I'm all for it. Slap a disorderly conduct charge on that loser and move on.
So solve the problem by creating more physical confrontations with police officers?
Yeah that sounds great.
Again. And again. And again. No one here is saying that cops shouldn't be held accountable when they abuse their power. It just doesn't happen near the level you guys act like it does.
Don't want a confrontation with a police officer? Don't go up to one saying “Fvck you, you cop piece of shit pussy ass bitch ho.”
Don't worry, in most cases that's allowed. But I'd be totally cool with it not being allowed.
You idiot. The jackass who gets in the face of an officer screaming obscenities is the one creating the confrontation. Hail is correct, that is disorderly conduct which is a crime. Misdemeanor or not.
I would not be cool with it. Police have more than enough power to police effectively; we don’t need to expand it.
You're not addressing the situation @brooky03 brought up at all. If a person attacks a neighbor with a bat injuring him but then resists arrest and starts running down the street, the cop shouldn't shoot the assailant dead at that point. He needs to try to chase down and tase that individual or call for backup to start a manhunt for the assailant.
You, @JimboBBN and @hailtoyourvictor hate criminals so much and they make all ya"ll blood boil to an extent where you're ok with cops just shooting them dead if they resist arrest at any point.
If this is incorrect, I apologize but that's how it comes across as. Even a drug dealer who has pending charges of assault and robbery deserves a chance to reform their life after serving time for their crimes.
Does anybody in any profession or walk of life have the right to disrespect somebody like that without consequences? To me, it would be well within reason for anyone to think their personal safety was in danger and has a right to defend themselves.
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