More than Jacob Blake? Not a chance in ****ing hell lol. Jacob Blake became a martyr for the BLM movement. Babbitt gets some fringe support.
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More than Jacob Blake? Not a chance in ****ing hell lol. Jacob Blake became a martyr for the BLM movement. Babbitt gets some fringe support.
Who makes more life or death decisions, cops or doctors? Who makes more money and lives in mansions generally speaking, cops or doctors?
You are a parrot of the propagandists.
Again. No one is acting like police training is not important. It's just not nearly as bad of a problem as it is being portrayed. Educating society and keeping civilians from becoming violent criminals is a much more significant issue that needs to be addressed. But you people scream for police reform as if it will make a damned bit of a difference without society cleaning itself up too.
This thread seems to be going about as well as I expected.
Do you not even remember the question you answered when you said you have zero expectations for criminals?
Pro sports teams delay games after Milwaukee Bucks refuse to play in protest of Jacob Blake shooting
Pro sports teams delay games after Milwaukee Bucks refuse to play in protest of Jacob Blake shooting
The announcement came after the Wisconsin-based team didn't take the floor for its scheduled game against the Orlando Magic.
www.nbcnews.com
Yeah, no ****ing way you'll find that level of support for Babbitt.
Both can make life or death decisions. Doctors make more money, not that that matters in this context at all.
I can’t parrot something I don’t read/listen to.
Society is already educated not to break laws and not resist arrest. What needs to be done to educate society? It’s not addressable, imo. Police training is addressable.
Saying "criminals are criminals" is almost just as bad by avoiding the conversation completely. Everyone wants to talk about keeping criminals safe. And we have officers quitting the force like never before because a lot of people on the left think its more important to protect killers and thieves than it is to protect a cops right to defend themselves.
But that’s not saying they don’t have rules and laws to follow.. That’s where I’m getting confused by your responses.
Criminals, by nature don’t follow rules. So once they become criminals, by nature, you can’t expect that they’re going to do anything they’re supposed to do. That doesn’t mean you’re okay with them not following rules or that they’re excused for breaking them. It just means that it wouldn’t make any sense to expect them to all of a sudden change their nature in an instant.
I didn't realize white women found themselves at the wrong end of the gun as often as black males. Those poor white women. Crazy what one can learn in this forum. Thanks for drawing my attention to their plight. Lol.Pro sports teams delay games after Milwaukee Bucks refuse to play in protest of Jacob Blake shooting
Pro sports teams delay games after Milwaukee Bucks refuse to play in protest of Jacob Blake shooting
The announcement came after the Wisconsin-based team didn't take the floor for its scheduled game against the Orlando Magic.
Yeah, no ****ing way you'll find that level of support for Babbitt.
I don’t see how that’s almost as bad. It’s not like I was saying “criminals are criminals, so they’re going to attack police and that’s cool, we should be nice.” Lol.
It's either this or keeping track of what seems like 12,000 transfers. And fvck that.
This is the last thing I am going to say on this to you because you are so dense. It was asked why we put so much expectations on LEO to be perfect and none on the criminals. (Something to that extent). Your response is that criminals are criminals and nothing should be expected of them. This is putting all of the expectations on LEO to be right and make the right decisions 100% of the time as if they are programmed with a computer chip to be perfect.
This one got me pretty good.
So professionals are exempt from criticism and consequences for mistakes because it’s hard to be perfect? Nobody exempts criminals from responsibility for their crimes.
Wait, what?
No one here is defending Babbitt. You linked a Babbitt article trying to show that both sides defend their criminals. I'm pointing out that a criminal like Jacob Blake got way more support than a criminal like Babbitt.
That was a weird way to move the goalpost.
Luckily, in this case, he blew his brains out.
My point was that both sides will make excuses for doing dumb shit and blame others. Pretty sure that point was proven. You're the one that changed it to support. Whatever though, Hail. You do you.
I'm going to get a picture of her on a Q Anon shirt with #sayhername across the bottom. She trespassed in the capitol building, ignored 5 final warnings not to proceed or she would be shot. But she still shouldn't have been shot. She was just a criminal, she shouldn't have been expected to follow orders after all.
Situation:
- Criminal hits person with baseball bat (non lethal weapon)
- Cop attempts to arrest criminal
- Criminal wrestles with cop and runs away with bat
- Cop shoots criminal
Conclusion :
Criminal was wrong at every point. Criminal is bad. Cop shouldn’t have shot criminal. Cop was wrong to shoot criminal.
Situation:
- Criminal hits person with baseball bat (non lethal weapon)
- Cop attempts to arrest criminal
- Criminal wrestles with cop and runs away with bat
- Cop chases down criminal and arrests him.
Conclusion:
Criminal was wrong at every point. Criminal is bad. Cop did a good job. Cop is good.
Which conclusion am I screwing up?
Thankfully he only had the courage to kill himself and that officer will be going home to his family.
I would imagine that is the case. I couldn’t see them getting lenient sentences.
In what world is a baseball bat a non-lethal weapon? 😆
It's almost like 829 expected us to defend her and now is sticking to his game plan rather than realizing we aren't lol.
If a baseball bat is a lethal weapon, everything is a lethal weapon lol. We have little league 6 year olds just running around with lethal weapons all across the country? Damn
The minimum requirements in Ky to be an officer is a 20 week academy. State police academy is 24 weeks. Starting pay just a few years ago was $9 an hour for a local sheriff's dept. City started around $12 or $13.
I don't think the solution to getting better police officers is to make their training several years longer while at the same time defunding/abolish them.
Especially when you can go to Walmart and be paid more, be cursed at just as much and a less of a chance of being shot at.
If you want better officers you will need to train then more(more money) and pay them more so you can actually have competitive hiring processes.
I don't think the solution to getting better police officers is to make their training several years longer while at the same time defunding/abolish them.
Especially when you can go to Walmart and be paid more, be cursed at just as much and a less of a chance of being shot at.
If you want better officers you will need to train then more(more money) and pay them more so you can actually have competitive hiring processes.
You just get dumber and dumber. A hammer is a tool. It is not a lethal weapon. Unless it is used as a weapon. Then it easily becomes a lethal weapon. A baseball bat is not a lethal weapon when using it to hit basesballs. But it becomes a lethal weapon when you use it to bash someone's skull.
Kentucky sounds terrible. Slightly above minimum wage to be a police officer? Yikes.
NY pays state troopers $60k to start and $80k after a year.
deadly weapon
n. any weapon which can kill. This includes not only weapons which are intended to do harm like a gun or knife, but also blunt instruments like clubs, baseball bats, monkey wrenches, an automobile or any object which actually causes death. This becomes important when trying to prove criminal charges brought for assault with a deadly weapon. In a few 1990s cases courts have found rocks and even penises of AIDS sufferers as "deadly weapons."
I need to read these cases...
n. any weapon which can kill. This includes not only weapons which are intended to do harm like a gun or knife, but also blunt instruments like clubs, baseball bats, monkey wrenches, an automobile or any object which actually causes death. This becomes important when trying to prove criminal charges brought for assault with a deadly weapon. In a few 1990s cases courts have found rocks and even penises of AIDS sufferers as "deadly weapons."
I need to read these cases...
It would not be a reason to shoot somebody in that situation. That is the point.
Lol. Imagine telling people your penis is a deadly weapon.
Situation:
Officer Sheskey obtained a description of Jacob Blake and knew he would have to arrest Jacob Blake on the warrant if he encountered him.
When officers arrived, Laquisha Booker flagged them down and shouted statements identifying Jacob Blake as the other person involved and indicating that he was trying to take her car, stating, “My kids are in the car.”
Officer Sheskey saw Jacob Blake and saw him putting a child in the back of the vehicle in question, a gray Dodge SUV.
Officer Sheskey immediately attempted to arrest Jacob Blake based on his active warrant and was quickly assisted by Officer Arenas and Officer Meronek.
Jacob Blake knew there was a warrant out for his arrest.
Jacob Blake did not comply with the verbal commands of officers as they attempted to arrest him.
When the officers attempted to physically restrain Jacob Blake, he resisted, physically struggling with officers.
Officers brought Jacob Blake to the ground, but he was able to get off the ground and to get away from the officers trying to arrest him.
During this struggle, Officer Sheskey and Officer Arenas both attempted to subdue Jacob Blake by deploying their tasers.
Both times that Jacob Blake was struck with the tasers, he ripped out the taser wires/prongs making the tasers ineffective against him.
Officer Sheskey also attempted to drive stun Jacob Blake with his taser by applying the taser to Jacob Blake’s neck/back area, but that too was ineffective.
As he resisted arrest, Jacob Blake was armed with a knife.
By the time he was walking in front of the SUV, the knife was opened and the blade was exposed.
Jacob Blake did not comply with police commands to drop the knife.
Jacob Blake tried to enter the driver’s door of the SUV.
The SUV had been rented by Laquisha Booker in her name and Laquisha Booker had indicated to police that Jacob Blake did not have permission to drive the vehicle.
There were children in the SUV who Laquisha Booker had yelled were her children.
Jacob Blake had the opened knife in his right hand and was attempting to escape from Officer Sheskey’s grasp and enter the driver’s side of the SUV.
Both Officer Sheskey and Officer Arenas stated that in the moment before Officer Sheskey opened fire, Jacob Blake twisted his body, moving his right hand with the knife towards Officer Sheskey.
Two citizen witnesses saw Jacob Blake’s body turn in a manner that appears consistent with what the officers described.
Officer Sheskey shot Jacob Blake seven times in total. There were four entrance wounds to Jacob Blake’s back and three entrance wounds to his left side (flank).
Officer Sheskey stated that he fired shots until Jacob Blake dropped the knife. Noble Wray explained this is consistent with law enforcement training where officers are instructed to continue shooting until they stop the threat.
Conclusion?
Let someone take a few home run swings at your skull and let us know how you feel after that.
If it weren't for the AIDS part, it would almost be great to be able to call your penis a deadly weapon.
She (or he) died from laughter when Brooky unleashed it.
And yet was and remains a case wher Blake is a martyr for BLM as they try to portray it as unjustified.
“It comes as no surprise that Kenosha police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged for his attempted murder of Jacob Blake, because there is no criminal justice system that works for Black people, and there is no safety or justice in America for Black people.
“The shooting of Jacob seven times in front of his children is yet another example of police violence against Black people in our country and the blatant disregard for Black life. District Attorney Graveley had the opportunity to provide justice for Jacob and his family but has instead chosen to fuel the racially charged agenda to overpolice and criminalize Black people in America.
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