Kind of a cross between the 2. Crean could recruit and Davis had one run in the tournament.
So one Sweet Sixteen win trumps everything to you. You are entitled to that opinion but I can't go that far just yet.
That’s fine. I think most want to see him do it more, just to make sure it’s not a blip on the radar.
Must not be familiar with the early 2000s which Illinois was the best team in the conference. There aren't 5 other schools that did as much.
He's beat a 1 and 2 seed. Two sweet 16's. Conference title. Coach of the year. Virtual national championship. Not really close.
Bruce Weber did that shit too, and now look at him. Gard's settled into his spot at about 5th or 6th best coach (in a conference full of good coaches) once he recruited his own guys.
Somebody has to fill the 6th spot. They took 13 years off or so, but so did everyone else not in the top 5.
If UM backs up this season by another season of just not disappointing and being a really good team I think everyone will have an easier time putting him there. It’s hard to put a guy up
Bo Ryan didn't make a final four til year 14 or w/e it was. Gard at 5/6 is fine. Underwood has done nothing to move ahead.
I'm just saying as far as stepping into a comfy situation and making a tournament run with the previous coaches players.
Bo Ryan inherited a mediocre program and turned it into a program at the top of the class of the Big Ten. Gard got handed a decent roster with Ethan Happ as a freshman, Nigel Hayes and Bronson Koenig, took them to two S16s and has since downgraded the program. Bo Ryan had already made an E8 at this point in his tenure.
The last 4 years Izzo has a final 4 and 3 Big Ten Championships. I get he is on his way out and Howard looks like he will be great for years to come, but Izzo, imo, deserves his own tier at least at this point.
We had just been to a final four. A conference championship isn't nothing. A virtual national championship isn't nothing. You're projecting a whole lot on Underwood. Let's see how it plays out. We aren't going anywhere.
Cool? He had a down year. He still has accomplished more in the last 4 years than any other coach in the league, and it’s really not even close.
It doesn't take much to derail a season. Teams surprise and have a good year, others expected to do well take a shit. It's just talk at this point. A lot can and will happen moving forward. much of it not expected.
Potentially. As far as moving forward, I would have MSU and Michigan in the top tier.
“He’s just telling everyone he’s 100% in so people take his evaluation seriously. He’s still 50/50 on whether or not he’s coming back” - Illinois Gil
Eh. They don’t recruit like MSU or Michigan and have only been passed the sweet 16 3 times in the last 41 years. I’d keep them solidly in second tier as they have been.
Regular season they’re as good as anybody, but the lack of success in March compared to the other two I think makes them 1B to MSU and UM’s 1A of the past decade or so.
Yea, they've choked quite a few times in the tourney when they probably shouldn't have either.
In the last 4 seasons that had a tournament, Purdue has 2 Sweet 16's and an Elite Eight. Recruiting is on an uptick. No guarantee that Purdue sees more Elite Eights or a Final Four but I feel pretty good about our being as successful as UM and MSU over the next 5 years.
