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Interesting theory - playing nobodies makes you better. Heard from no one who actually understands improvement. Playing nobodies is good - heard from conmen and politicians.
 
I think the offense will be better than last year. Better spacing.

We’re high on Brooks, he’s a better shooter than expected, but apparently defensively he’s not where we want him at yet and that’s what’s holding him back. He needs to drop some baby fat. He did join the team like a month late. When he can start playing defense at that level he’s in the rotation. He’s a very strong wing who’s also a good shooter.
Does Izzo plan on having Christie at the 3 when Brown is out? (At least until Brooks is playable on defense)

I like Bingham at the 5, certainly opens up the floor offensively more so than Marble and Sissoko did last year. He’s not lights out or anything, but he’s got good form and is at least willing to shoot it
 
Interesting theory - playing nobodies makes you better. Heard from no one who actually understands improvement. Playing nobodies is good - heard from conmen and politicians.

Beilein has said that and proven the importance of player development in the non conference. Being tested by good opponents is important but so is being able to play with lineups and get freshmen on the court in games that aren’t in danger.

Huge con man.


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Does Izzo plan on having Christie at the 3 when Brown is out? (At least until Brooks is playable on defense)

I like Bingham at the 5, certainly opens up the floor offensively more so than Marble and Sissoko did last year. He’s not lights out or anything, but he’s got good form and is at least willing to shoot it
I think we could see some Christie at the 3, but Hall has slimmed down and is apparently going to play some 3/4.

Bingham is also just the best defender by far out of the bunch. He’s the best shot blocking presence and has good length to be able to cover. He also improved in the pick and roll and might be the best.

I like Marble and his grit down low but he can struggle defensively. Sissoko has bounce but he’s a foul machine and raw in the PNR.
 
@pig1960 Beilein has literally referred to the non-conference as "preseason" before. He liked scheduling a few marquee games each non-conference but then loaded it with cupcakes.

I'm not saying that's the only way to do it but it's hard to argue with his results and say it isn't viable.
 
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@pig1960 Beilein has literally referred to the non-conference as "preseason" before. He liked scheduling a few marquee games each non-conference but then loaded it with cupcakes.

I'm not saying that's the only way to do it but it's hard to argue with his results and say it isn't viable.
I have a ton of respect for Beilien - see my tag line. Never the less you get better by playing top competition. Not cupcakes. The problem is you need “wins” to get the seed lines. It’s a con. Duke makes a living at it - most people won’t argue the point. Give me what Izzo does - play tough schedule and get better. Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance - are you a great team ? Great teams say bring it on. How many NCs has perrrenial top seed (and talented) Gonzaga won? How tough is their overall schedule. Purdue would be a two seed every year playing in that cupcake league.
 
I have a ton of respect for Beilien - see my tag line. Never the less you get better by playing top competition. Not cupcakes. The problem is you need “wins” to get the seed lines. It’s a con. Duke makes a living at it - most people won’t argue the point. Give me what Izzo does - play tough schedule and get better. Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance - are you a great team ? Great teams say bring it on. How many NCs has perrrenial top seed (and talented) Gonzaga won? How tough is their overall schedule. Purdue would be a two seed every year playing in that cupcake league.

wow
 
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For the record, and I thought I made it pretty clear, the idea isn't that playing all cupcakes is ideal. It's that the Big Ten is so loaded that the overall SOS ends up top 10-20 regardless of the Non-conference.

Playing a loaded non-conference isn't a necessity. Beilein had a lot of success with the way he handled scheduling. Several marquee games and then a bunch of cupcakes.
 
For the record, and I thought I made it pretty clear, the idea isn't that playing all cupcakes is ideal. It's that the Big Ten is so loaded that the overall SOS ends up top 10-20 regardless of the Non-conference.

Playing a loaded non-conference isn't a necessity. Beilein had a lot of success with the way he handled scheduling. Several marquee games and then a bunch of cupcakes.
Bro, we get it.
 
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I have a ton of respect for Beilien - see my tag line. Never the less you get better by playing top competition. Not cupcakes. The problem is you need “wins” to get the seed lines. It’s a con. Duke makes a living at it - most people won’t argue the point. Give me what Izzo does - play tough schedule and get better. Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance - are you a great team ? Great teams say bring it on. How many NCs has perrrenial top seed (and talented) Gonzaga won? How tough is their overall schedule. Purdue would be a two seed every year playing in that cupcake league.
Have you seen Gonzaga’s Non Con schedule recently? How many NCs has Purdue won playing a “tough” non con schedule?
 
Bro, you read pigs post and came away thinking he gets what I was saying? You guys have a weird inability to not recognize how dumb some of your posters are.
You’ve made the same point 12 times. Some people have a different opinion on the matter which you won’t be able to change. That’s fine, but there’s no need to beat a dead horse.
 
You’ve made the same point 12 times. Some people have a different opinion on the matter which you won’t be able to change. That’s fine, but there’s no need to beat a dead horse.

Did you read pigs post? You’re just as dumb as him if you read his post and came away with it just being him disagreeing with me.
 
Did you read pigs post? You’re just as dumb as him if you read his post and came away with it just being him disagreeing with me.
He said teams get better by playing tougher teams and not cupcakes, which more than a few posters have said already. & then you laid out the Beilein method again, & pig disagreed with you & took a hard stance on the topic (which I also disagree with), & then you made the same Beilein point again. I’m just saying, we get it.
 
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I have a ton of respect for Beilien - see my tag line. Never the less you get better by playing top competition. Not cupcakes. The problem is you need “wins” to get the seed lines. It’s a con. Duke makes a living at it - most people won’t argue the point. Give me what Izzo does - play tough schedule and get better. Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance - are you a great team ? Great teams say bring it on. How many NCs has perrrenial top seed (and talented) Gonzaga won? How tough is their overall schedule. Purdue would be a two seed every year playing in that cupcake league.

Izzo’s NCSOS the past 10 seasons:
190
183
144
184
157
51
303
82
109
234


As I said, you don’t need a loaded non conference schedule. Neither Beilein or Izzo loaded their non conference schedules. They play a few marquee games and then load up on freebies.
 
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He said teams get better by playing tougher teams and not cupcakes, which more than a few posters have said already. & then you laid out the Beilein method again, & pig disagreed with you & took a hard stance on the topic (which I also disagree with), & then you made the same Beilein point again. I’m just saying, we get it.

My entire point from the get go was that our conference is strong enough to test teams that Big Ten teams don’t really need to hammer the Non Conference. He brought up Gonzaga as if they are relevant to that point. They are in the complete opposite boat.
 
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He said teams get better by playing tougher teams and not cupcakes, which more than a few posters have said already. & then you laid out the Beilein method again, & pig disagreed with you & took a hard stance on the topic (which I also disagree with), & then you made the same Beilein point again. I’m just saying, we get it.

“Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance”

That is an NC_Trojan level troll that you just gloss over because he’s a Purdue fan. Beilein’s tournament success is now irrelevant to the discussion of if his scheduling was fine for his teams. Make two national title games in a decade? Irrelevant. Especially not relevant when we are talking about preparation for March.

It was a dumb post and you’d be calling him out if he didn’t like your team. You’re very odd about not being able to do that.
 
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“Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance”

That is an NC_Trojan level troll that you just gloss over because he’s a Purdue fan. Beilein’s tournament success is now irrelevant to the discussion of if his scheduling was fine for his teams. Make two national title games in a decade? Irrelevant. Especially not relevant when we are talking about preparation for March.

It was a dumb post and you’d be calling him out if he didn’t like your team. You’re very odd about not being able to do that.
Why do you care so much?
 
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“Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance”

That is an NC_Trojan level troll that you just gloss over because he’s a Purdue fan. Beilein’s tournament success is now irrelevant to the discussion of if his scheduling was fine for his teams. Make two national title games in a decade? Irrelevant. Especially not relevant when we are talking about preparation for March.

It was a dumb post and you’d be calling him out if he didn’t like your team. You’re very odd about not being able to do that.
Purdue fans don’t think tournament success matters… I wonder why? 🤔
 
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Purdue fans don’t think tournament success matters… I wonder why? 🤔

In a discussion literally about how a non conference prepares a team for March, I’m being told Beilein’s March results are irrelevant because it’s Russian Roulette.

Re-read that and think about how little sense that makes.

So what’s a better way to gauge post season preparedness than, ugh, the past decade of results?


And this somehow not only makes sense to Pig but @otte21 sees nothing wrong with it. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone.
 
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My entire point from the get go was that our conference is strong enough to test teams that Big Ten teams don’t really need to hammer the Non Conference. He brought up Gonzaga as if they are relevant to that point. They are in the complete opposite boat.
I know what your point is for the love of God lmao.


“Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance”

That is an NC_Trojan level troll that you just gloss over because he’s a Purdue fan. Beilein’s tournament success is now irrelevant to the discussion of if his scheduling was fine for his teams. Make two national title games in a decade? Irrelevant. Especially not relevant when we are talking about preparation for March.

It was a dumb post and you’d be calling him out if he didn’t like your team. You’re very odd about not being able to do that.
I said I disagree with his hard stance take. I glossed over most of the discussion because we’ve already had the discussion. I’ve had no problems arguing with Purdue posters in the past either, so don’t even go down that rabbit hole.
 
In a discussion literally about how a non conference prepares a team for March, I’m being told Beilein’s March results are irrelevant because it’s Russian Roulette.

Re-read that and think about how little sense that makes.

So what’s a better way to gauge post season preparedness than, ugh, the past decade of results?


And this somehow not only makes sense to Pig but @otte21 sees nothing wrong with it. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone.
I said I disagree with him Hail. You’re trying to argue something that is unquantifiable anyway.
 
I know what your point is for the love of God lmao.



I said I disagree with his hard stance take. I glossed over most of the discussion because we’ve already had the discussion. I’ve had no problems arguing with Purdue posters in the past either, so don’t even go down that rabbit hole.

Link?
 
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You defended his shit post without even reading it lol. It’s okay, I get it. You assumed he was saying the same stuff you were yesterday. He wasn’t.
Where did I defend him? Link?

I just told you to let it go because you had made your point over & over.
 
Why not tell the Purdue poster to let it go?
If he makes the same argument over & over I will. I’ve already said I disagree with his hard stance take on the topic. Plus Gonzaga was a horrible example anyway because they always have a tough non-con but a weak conference.
 
Why do you weirdos think it’s our responsibility to hold other Purdue posters accountable? I have no interest in doing so. It’s a fvcking message board.
It’s called being consistent. If you are going to call Hail or anyone else out on something, you should also call Purdue posters out on the same things. We know you have no interest in doing so.
 
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Fan X of an opposing school doesn't agree with my opinion so he must be dumb!

Signed,

@hailtoyourvictor

His take that Beilein’s post season results are irrelevant when discussing if Beilein prepared his team for the post season is dumb. I don’t care if it was a Michigan fan or Purdue fan with that take. It’s a dumb take.
 
Where did I defend him? Link?

I just told you to let it go because you had made your point over & over.

You defended him by calling his shit post of dismissing Beilein’s tournament history in a discussion about tournament preparation and further using of Izzo (bad example) and Gonzaga (bad example) just “just a difference of opinion” and calling me out for responding to him.
 
Why do you weirdos think it’s our responsibility to hold other Purdue posters accountable? I have no interest in doing so. It’s a fvcking message board.

Here’s a scale for you…….




Holding pig1960 accountable for his shit takes






Not participating in the conversation






Insulting posters who call out his shit takes <—— You Are Here





Defending pig1960
 
Everyone: Discussing if a weak non conference schedule is still capable of preparing a team for March.

Hail: There’s two ways to look at it. In Beilein’s case, he had a lot of March success even with playing weak non conference schedules.

pig1960: “Not interested in the semantics of how far you went in the roulette wheel of the dance”

Hail: You’re dumb.

Otte, B-Westy, boilerzz, boiler1987: “Woah, woah, woah!”

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