Ole Miss went 16-11 and 10-8 in the SEC and one of the reasons they were left out was their 273rd ranked Non-conference SOS. They went 3-5 in Q1 and 4-5 in Q2, which was plenty good but they were left out.
Had nothing to do with their overall SOS being 78? Again, every Big Ten team will have a top 40ish overall SOS every year now that it is a 20 game schedule.
The only guy that posts about MSU more than me is back
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Are you really trying to argue with him about his pretend preferred scheduling strategy for his pretend team? Sheesh. Rough crowd.
Looks like IU will be picking up their first 2023 commit on Friday.
Jakai Newton, Indiana Hoosiers, Combo Guard
Jakai Newton is a 6-3, 190-pound Combo Guard from Covington, GA.
He shot well when Rivals evaluated him. He didn’t shoot well when 247 did. I would guess he lands somewhere in between. Probably around 80ish.
Never argued otherwise. I just argued against the term "Non conference SOS doesn’t really matter anymore" that is a verbatim quote that I responded to.
I don’t think the 2 added games mean you should dumb down the non con schedule. Playing tough teams and neutral site games early is great experience imo, in addition to the resume benefits.
Brown at the 3 right?
I think it has to be a case by case basis, based on what a teams outlook is, but it usually behooves the most elite teams to play an elite level non con.
Yeah their metrics are going to look largely fine, but there’s still a line there somewhere. A team that wins 8 or 9 games in the big ten probably has to worry about their non con schedule at least a bit. You could definitely say a team that wins that few games in conference doesn’t deserve to make the tourney anyways, but with the strength and depth of the conference, you’re going to have teams that fit that criteria as fringe tourney teams
But yeah shitty conference teams that want a non-auto bid have to schedule some upper quad non conference games.
If I was IU, I'd still want a marquee opponent especially in Assembly if possible. You guys have always had the ability to beat just about anyone [not named Purdue] in Bloomington.
It’s true but I agree with @Toast. ’s main point in that it’s beneficial to the actual team in playing a tough non-con. The teams in the big ten know each other. Not only is it helpful to the resume to play tougher teams but also just see different players/coaches/style of play that you will in the tournament.
It makes sense for Purdue to play a tough schedule this year. It doesn’t make sense for them to play a tough schedule in a down year.
Disagree. Just play a tough non-con every year. If you suck, you suck & don’t deserve to make the tournament. But even that path probably gives you best chance, it puts you higher up on computer models, etc.
It makes sense every year. Feasting on cream puffs does nothing for teams. I’ve seen IU do it for the past 4 years and crumble when they actually play a tough Big Ten schedule. Coaches would tell you the same. Iron sharpens iron.
The thing is, mocking teams for weak non-con schedules has been a constant in this thread for as long as I can remember. Now...It's Actually Good.
It really doesn’t. Your overall SOS is high regardless. The only thing it could possibly help with is a human making a decision.
No & that’s a bad example because the year before Purdue lost @ Texas and wasn’t really looking like a tournament team and went to the elite 8.
How is that a bad example? Purdue won the Big Ten, so their Texas loss didn’t matter. Wins > Quality in the non con.
To be clear, I’m not saying to schedule 300+ kenpom teams. I don’t think any serious power 6 program should do that. I just don’t know if you should also schedule road games against top 25 teams if you’re concerned about how good your team is to start the year.
Because I’m glad Purdue had that experience of playing a tougher team in Texas than some cupcake. If your team is solely relying on pure W/L record to make the tournament, chances are they aren’t going to do shit in the tournament anyway.
Yep. You can actually make your NCSOS look pretty good without playing any top 25 teams. Just stay away from the 250+ teams.
Cool. It was still a good example. That win would have gotten you closer to making the tournament 2 years ago than the loss.
