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I fvcking hope so. If we can’t beat Wisconsin with Graham Mertz at QB, then when the hell will it ever happen?
Wtf happened to that guy? 5* who looked like the best qb at the all american bowl. I remember watching that game thinking that he was the type of qb that the Badgers have always lacked. I watch him play now and he is so mediocre with an arm that has turned into a noodle.
You guys could trot out Brad Davison at RB and he'd rush for 250 and 4 TDs against us.
If it weren’t for David Bell, you guys are effectively us.
If you ignore that small part of football called defense, sure.
Take away David Bell’s 240 yards against Iowa and O’ Connell still more than doubled Peters/Sitkowksi’s passing yards in their last game.
I honestly haven't watched purdue football in a while. I've barely watched the badgers this year. What's a cliff notes version of this years team. Good at anything?
Really not sure. Got hurt early last year & maybe his confidence is just shaken now. But I do think some people were overrating him early last season for torching Illinois in their first game. But he hasn’t really done anything since. Never thought he’d be this bad though.
Offensive line a weakness but finally pass protected well against Iowa last week. But cannot run the ball well traditionally, ever.
Really good weapons at the skilled positions led by David Bell, Qb play has been up and down.
Defense in general has been rock solid all year round in both rushing and passing.
FG kicker is solid I think. Punter is an issue IMO. Special teams coverage had been solid all year but let Iowa get loose a couple of times.
Defense is playing more aggressively under new leadership and it has paid off. Purdue is currently 5th nationally in ppg allowed.
O is one dimensional thanks to poor run blocking and hurt RB's. And I worry about the OL and QB holding up under a heavy pass rush.
Defense is tough (5th in the nation in scoring) but doesn't generate a ton of disruptive plays. The big keys are that Karlaftis helps free up other guys by demanding doubles every down (sometimes triples), we've trusted our corners with a lot of responsibility and they've held up, then we have a couple pretty fast linebackers that can get to the boundaries and play in space along with a SS that is really good in run support.
The offense has moved the ball well since O'Connell took over at QB, but had some turnover issues and struggles in the red zone. Running game is shit, we're trying to spark it by having the backup QBs do some zone read stuff. We have pretty good options at receiver and TE to go along with Bell who's obviously elite.
Wisconsin should look to take advantage of our poor special teams. Then the key will be turnovers and red zone efficiency.
You think our poor special teams can overtake your poor special teams?
Thanks for the cliffs everyone. I still can't fathom why we are favored. Our defense is fine but the offense can't get out of their own way at this point. Couple bright spots but that's about it. Allen seems like he's starting to get it and is a load at rb. Still just 17 years old I believe.
I already predicted that they were going to run for 300 yds against us so the QB play doesn’t matter.
Not sure if you’ve paid attention to our defense, but it’s been fine. It’s the offense that’s kept us from beating teams like you - which we had every opportunity to do. If we didn’t have the worst QB room in P5, we might actually have 2 or 3 more wins.
If the offense could stay on the field for more than 15 minutes per game, the counting stats would look a lot better.
Okay, you guys likely lose to us without Bell if we had the 13th worst QB in conference. Unfortunately, we don’t have a P5 level QB. Illinois didn’t look worse than Purdue when we played. Looked like two turds in the same bowl.
I thought Iowa came out looking to pass too much. I think your power running game can find some level of success against us.You think our poor special teams can overtake your poor special teams?
Thanks for the cliffs everyone. I still can't fathom why we are favored. Our defense is fine but the offense can't get out of their own way at this point. Couple bright spots but that's about it. Allen seems like he's starting to get it and is a load at rb. Still just 17 years old I believe.
I didn't watch, but I was a little shocked at the score. Mertz can look good at times, but it's so few and far between we won't get much other than a .500 season I'm afraid.
Purdue defensive stats:
- 14 ppg, 2nd in the conference
- 294 yards per game, 2nd in the conference
- 27.4 ppg, last in the conference
- 457 yards per game, last in the conference
Again, counting stats are awful, but Illinois’ defense looks worse because the offense is historically bad. Purdue is better than Illinois, but the bench is not deep. From what I’ve seen, there are a few key pieces and then not much.
Our defense shut you down completely, and our running back ran wild. Zero passing game though. You deserve credit, but it was two evenly matched teams that weren’t very good, IMO.
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Hey Purdue fans, have fun with the “head to head with Illinois trumps everything” angle.
So how does everyone's non-conference schedule look?
Purdue's should be a nice challenge.
#19 North Carolina in the Tipoff Classic (neutral)
#4 Nova or #18 Tennessee in the Tipoff Classic (neutral)
#20 FSU in the B1G/ACC Challenge (home)
KenPom #55 Butler in Indy (neutral)
KenPom #56 NC State in the Hall of Fame invite in Brooklyn (Neutral)
Beyond that, it's the usual filler. I do wish former Purdue player (and Teen Wolf clone) Carson Cunningham would either make Incarnate Word better or move on. I hate having a team that bad on the schedule. Having them, Austin Peay and Nebraska Omaha on the schedule will bring our SOS down unnecessarily.
Purdue's should be a nice challenge.
#19 North Carolina in the Tipoff Classic (neutral)
#4 Nova or #18 Tennessee in the Tipoff Classic (neutral)
#20 FSU in the B1G/ACC Challenge (home)
KenPom #55 Butler in Indy (neutral)
KenPom #56 NC State in the Hall of Fame invite in Brooklyn (Neutral)
Beyond that, it's the usual filler. I do wish former Purdue player (and Teen Wolf clone) Carson Cunningham would either make Incarnate Word better or move on. I hate having a team that bad on the schedule. Having them, Austin Peay and Nebraska Omaha on the schedule will bring our SOS down unnecessarily.
We play in the Atlantis tournament that opens with Loyola Chicago for us, next game would be against Auburn/Uconn, and the game after that would be against ASU/Baylor/Syracuse/VCU
We play also Kansas, at Butler, and Louisville
A blue blood right out of the gate, Good luck with that.
Cool, nice moral victory for Illinois.
Since then, we beat Iowa to get to 4-2 while Bielema is 2-5 and got in front of the mic and said your entire two deeps suck.
I’m not under any belief that Purdue is anything to write home about and don’t think we play as well as we did against Iowa again this season, but we have a couple of really fun elite talents and are in a good position to play in a bowl. That’s all I’m looking for.
I mean if generational talent like a lot of Illinois guys couldn’t beat them we’re hopeless.
Ours is pretty weak this year, but given the new system and players, I’m fine with that. Non conference SOS doesn’t really matter anymore with the Big Ten playing 20 conference games.
vs St John’s
@ Syracuse
Neutral - Notre Dame
All the rest should be wins.
Not sure I agree that non-con SOS doesn't really matter anymore. If you go 10-10 in the B1G, a strong Non-con can be the difference between NIT and NCAA bids.
Every Big Ten team will have an overall SOS in the top 40. If you go 10-10 and 10-1, you are in regardless of who you play.
Iowa was a 2 seed with a NCSOS ranked 258. Wisconsin went 10-10 in conference and still got a 9 seed even with a NCSOS ranked 199.
When the Big Ten made the switch to 20 games, the importance of NCSOS went down.
I truly believe Schiano will get us righted, but our QB (and OL) are FCS level. Chris Ash left Greg a mess at those two position groups. Although if Art is getting more PT at Illinois you might be right.
I agree. Pikiell plays as soft a non-conference as there is. He learned under Calhoun and every coach in the old Big East: Thomson, Boeheim, Calhoun, etc. would play no one OOC.
We were 10-10/11-9 last two seasons in B1G and were pretty solidly "In" both years. If a team goes 9-11 or even 8-12 maybe a soft OOC would matter. But with 20 B1G games and the strength of the league every team in the B1G will play a top 30-40 SOS. Which will (likely) be better if/when put up against a Big East or Pac 12 or Big 12 team in the committee room.
That was also the worst Purdue has played all season. They were horrendous that game.
Completely agree. Also, if you don’t win the games against hard opponents OOC, it doesn’t really help you anyways.
It's a fine strategy if the goal is to squeak into the tourney.
If the goal is to be challenged, improve, and build a resume, it's certainly not the path I'd take my team on.
To add to this: I always thought tough non-con schedules were a key to MSU's success for so many years. Those teams being in tough games early on helped expose weaknesses, they could then address and make adjustments before they were deep into the B1G season, and then they were super battle tested come tourney time.
Did Michigan (178), Iowa (285), Baylor (258), Texas Tech (283), Arkansas (272), … etc sneak into the tourney with poorer NC SOS?
I didn't say it's a pre-req, I said it's not the path I'd take my team on.
I don’t think you can really state that without knowing what your team looks like in a given year.
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