Only one has so far but I think Underwood can.
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Only one has so far but I think Underwood can.
If you weren’t 20 at the time, you would remember that Ohio States coaching search came well after Archie and Underwood were hired.
Nah, Holtmann is the only good coach from that hiring class in the Big Ten. Oddly enough, if you had gone through the hiring process at a normal time, you probably would have ended up with Archie while we end up with Holtmann haha
Absolutely on the second and as far as the first I’m sure Underwood would have taken the Osu job.
Is Liddell sharing minutes with Kofi at the 5 or playing on the wing this year?
The Osu fanbase was livid they waited and missed on Miller. I wonder how that would have worked out.
I’m pretty sure he is Garcia’s backup at the 4. Aden Bona is Kofi’s backup at the 5
So how do you think Underwood jumps ahead of Crean after this year? What are your expectations for Illinois? Obviously have to be pretty lofty.
Liddell will be guarding Kofi underneath the rim.
Just like his last 2 years under him in the standings.
Lol at Okpara over Reed.
Where did I say IU would/could have had a similar run? I said they to would have made the NCAAT. I didn't say anything about making a run....And unless you guys would have made a run in the B10 tourney, you were projected as a 7-seed. WHich isn't out of the question of making a SW 16 as a 7 seed----7 seed have made it to the SW 16 , 27 times----or 31%. And hell, I could say the same about IU. They won their 1st round B10 tourney game....Up next was Penn St. WHom IU had already beaten once. So who knows....Beat PSU, up next is MD---a game IU bsically gave away in Bloomngton.
See---I can make the same argument.
As for Woody---He might not be the answer. Dunno. But the pressure won't be the reason. Dude played there. When the expectations were exponentially higher. He understands this. I actually didn't like the higher. BUt he has surrouned himself with a solid staff...Has so far recruited pretty good. He was successful in the NBA. Does any of that mean he gets it done at IU? Nope. We will see. Talent is there, that is for sure.
Your lack of reading comprehension or your inability to put together an argument constantly astounds me.
At least you are consistent.
LOL at you acting like a scout.
Lol I’ve played the hypothetical game already, but arguing Indiana an objectively equal amount of success because they both would’ve made the tournament is a silly argument.
He was moderately successful in the NBA at best, and is already 63 years old.
Your program is a regional school, not a blueblood anymore. And until your fans/admin understands that you will constantly be underwhelmed.
It doesn’t take a scout to understand this.
You’ll see next year, as I assume you didn’t even check into their games this summer in which they were on the same team.
Top 3 in conference, 1-3 seed line, Sweet 16.
With roster mobility, projecting next year is impossible. But I’d guess top 5 in conference barring all 3 of Kofi, Curbelo, and Hutch(he’s 22 or 23) leaving.
He didn't inherit Langford----he recruited him. He was a freshman. He did though inherit a team that lost James Blackmon, Jr, OG Anunoby and THomas Bryant.
Yikes if so, but I guess “scouting” doesn’t come to everyone naturally.
I never said IU/Illionois would had the same opportunity of success had their been an NCAAT. I said both would have made the tourney.
Moderately successful? Meh----I guess. He took over a Hawks franchise that was awful. Had not made the playoffs in 8 straight years. He went from 19 wins in his first season, to 53 in his last----making three straight playoff appearances. His Atlanta teams improved every year: 19 wins, 26, 30, 38, , 47 and 53. In his 3 seasons with the Knicks, he went to the playoffs twice. In his 10 seasons, he went to the playoffs 5 times, reached conference semi-finals 3X's.
WTF does 63 have to do with anything?
IU regional school/blue blood----I don't care. It has no relevance on this year.
Yeah....he inherited a guy who averaged 7ppg the season before MIller arrived. I mean crazy he couldn't win big with a dude who went undrafted, with a career scoring avg of 1.7ppg. If by getting run in the NBA, you mean playing in 50 career games, averaging 5mpg,then yes---he's getting "run".
Indiana was in the SW 16 in 2016.....Won the Big 10 in 2016----their 2nd conference title in 3 seasons.
Weird.....2016 seems more recent than 2005.
He’s getting run in the NBA, which compared to Michael Finke and Maverick Morgan…. Is well an upgrade.
15-3 that year in conference versus 16-4 for us this year, man whatta difference.
What relevance.
Hey at least you are coming to terms with reality.
5th best in conference is nothing to be upset about moving forward!
Well there is that one part where you guys got prison raped by Loyola, in the 2nd round---And IU went to the SW 16.
You have argued Illinois has been, NOT IS, more relevant. There is a difference. Aside from last year, Illinois has been shit. I mean the last two seasons, mostly last year, have certainly been good. But bro---Illinois has not been past the 2nd round of the NCAAT since 2005. No Big 10 titles; well, I guess last year---sort of.
You guys were really good last year. Great. And what do you have to show for that? A 2nd round ass fukin whoopin.
Good for you, guys.
Sure.....Maybe IU isn't a blue blood anymore. Ok. But Illinois never has been. And never will be. IU could never when another title, and Illinois will never catch them.
I guess I'd rather be a "has been", than a "never was"...
He's playing 5mpg,. dude...Thats not "getting run"---Thats, "JUwan,we are up 60---go check in."
He got minutes in the playoffs last year. Sparingly.
But we are comparing to Underwood had coming in. Which was significantly less, so him not being an NBA starter is irrelevant.
Indiana hasn’t been a blueblood for a long time. Probably my entire life time…
At this point, you are Illinois except you have to share your instate talent with another program who has a really good coach that can win with less. Not ideal.
Hey now, he has his own website that a couple people have been to!! That makes him legit!!
Lol so how would top 3 in the conference and a sweet 16 pass what Crean accomplished at IU?
So send us a link to it so you can get some more views. I’m sure we won’t find any massively homer takes there.
You're all over the place.....Never said Underwood had equal talent coming in. I was just laughing at you saying Miller inherited an NBA player--Presenting as like Morgan is some of regular-rotation NBA guy, who was drafted or something.
Indiana has been down for quite some time. Even then, they still have same amount of FF's since 2000...Same amount of SW 16's....One less Big 10 title(if we are counting last years "title" for Illinois). Last 10 years----as bad as Indiana has been----they have been much better than Illinois.
Not sure how old you are....My guess is late 20's, 30's. I'll be 50 nest year. And there is no probably to this----Illinois has never been a bluebood in my lifetime. MOF, no ones lifetime to be exact.
Who are we sharing our in-state talent with, that can win with less? Are you talking about Painter?
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