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Tamar Bates is no Luther Head, Dee Brown, or Deron Williams. When you have three guys that good, you get them on the court. I’m not putting a freshman that’s small for a 3 on the wing unless he’s an absolute stud.

We had to do exactly that in 2019/20 when Livers missed 6 weeks and no David DeJulis was not an absolute stud. The roster construction was not good.
 
He’s way too small to play 3 next to Frazier and Curbelo. He’d be a third string 2 at best.
Lol Austin Hutcherson is your projected starting 3 at 6’6”, and Tamar Bates is 6’5”. He would also be your starter at the 2 as well.
 
Lol Austin Hutcherson is your projected starting 3 at 6’6”, and Tamar Bates is 6’5”. He would also be your starter at the 2 as well.
He is a buck seventy five, and he’s a freshman. That’s a mismatch all over the Big Ten.
 
He is a buck seventy five, and he’s a freshman. That’s a mismatch all over the Big Ten.
Again, he wound your starting 2 if not 3. Trent Frazier would start though, so he would be your 3. Hutcherson is only 190 lol
 
Again, he wound your starting 2 if not 3. Trent Frazier would start though, so he would be your 3. Hutcherson is only 190 lol
If I were to guess, Williams will be our starting 3 at the beginning of the year. 6’3”. 215lbs.
 
How many Cousey award winners shot 30% or worse?
None since 2004, but that doesn’t preclude that from happening. He can still fill the stat sheet shooting 30% on this team. 30% is my conservative prediction, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were 2-3% higher or lower. Obviously, 27% would mean he didn’t have the year he needed to in order to be in contention.
 
Again, he wound your starting 2 if not 3. Trent Frazier would start though, so he would be your 3. Hutcherson is only 190 lol
And when I wrote up my notes today, I mentioned how skinny he looked. 175 is tiny.
 
And when I wrote up my notes today, I mentioned how skinny he looked. 175 is tiny.
190 is not much bigger (assuming you take roster heights/weights as gospel). Bates is better than every guard you have outside of Curbelo.
 
190 is not much bigger (assuming you take roster heights/weights as gospel). Bates is better than every guard you have outside of Curbelo.
Lol you’re so full of shit. He’s not better than an all big ten defensive player who will average 10-12 ppg. He’s not better than Plummer either.

Bates will be a decent freshman. If you’re depending on him to be more than that, that’s why your team isn’t finishing top 3.

Project his stat line.
PPG -
APG -
TRB -
3P% -
 
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Lol you’re so full of shit. He’s not better than an all big ten defensive player who will average 10-12 ppg. He’s not better than Plummer either.

Bates will be a decent freshman. If you’re depending on him to be more than that, that’s why your team isn’t finishing top 3.

Project his stat line.
PPG -
APG -
TRB -
3P% -
You said he wasn’t tall enough to start the 3 for you, yet last year you started a 6’3” guy at the 3.

PPG - 9
APG - 1.5
TRB - 2.5
3P% - 37%
 
I see Trojan is making some offseason predictions. He’s got such an impressive track record of accuracy with those.
Yea, very similar to when you guys were all over Eastern’s nuts because he made preseason all big ten, and I continued to say he was ass. Or like last year when you guys were all over Morton’s nuts and I tried to let you know he was ass too.
 
Yea, very similar to when you guys were all over Eastern’s nuts because he made preseason all big ten, and I continued to say he was ass. Or like last year when you guys were all over Morton’s nuts and I tried to let you know he was ass too.
Prove it. I was always skeptical of Eastern.
 
Prove it. I was always skeptical of Eastern.
Unfortunately Rivals took away the search ability for older posts, but do you really think Purdue fans weren’t hyping up Eastern after he got voted preseason 2nd team by the media? Maybe not you specifically, but most Purdue fans here were all over Eastern.
 
You said he wasn’t tall enough to start the 3 for you, yet last year you started a 6’3” guy at the 3.

PPG - 9
APG - 1.5
TRB - 2.5
3P% - 37%
You thought that would be better than any guard not named Curbelo!? You realize Plummer average 14 ppg in the PAC12 on 38% from 3 last year (4% lower than his previous worst season).
 
You thought that would be better than any guard not named Curbelo!? You realize Plummer average 14 ppg in the PAC12 on 38% from 3 last year (4% lower than his previous worst season).
Please provide your projected numbers for Plummer. I just want to get it on the record so we can revisit.
 
You said he wasn’t tall enough to start the 3 for you, yet last year you started a 6’3” guy at the 3.

PPG - 9
APG - 1.5
TRB - 2.5
3P% - 37%
We started a 1st team all American at the three after we had far greater success starting 6-7 Grandison at the 4. DaMonte played the 4 out of necessity and never started at the 3 before that. It was a continual mismatch.
 
Lower than his career averages. This is another stupid take that you’re digging your heels in on. How have those worked out for you in the past? I don’t think you’ve been right yet.

You realize he’s likely going to take the second most shots of any guard on our team?
 
We started a 1st team all American at the three after we had far greater success starting 6-7 Grandison at the 4. DaMonte played the 4 out of necessity and never started at the 3 before that. It was a continual mismatch.
Your starting backcourt was Ayo (6’5”), Frazier (6’2”), and Miller (6’3”). I wasnt even talking about your 6’3” starting 4.
 
Lower than his career averages. This is another stupid take that you’re digging your heels in on. How have those worked out for you in the past? I don’t think you’ve been right yet.

You realize he’s likely going to take the second most shots of any guard on our team?
Him taking the 2nd most shots of any guard on your team isn’t impressive. Your backcourt isn’t very good outside of Curbelo and Frazier. That’s why a lot of people don’t consider you a contender in the conference.
 
Your starting backcourt was Ayo (6’5”), Frazier (6’2”), and Miller (6’3”). I wasnt even talking about your 6’3” starting 4.
Tamar Bates isn’t Ayo. Ayo was 200 lbs and an all American. Plus, we replaced 6-3 with 5-10. So you are suggesting a smaller and a worse lineup. Again, the small lineup was out of necessity. Bates isn’t good enough to start for us on top of that.
 
Him taking the 2nd most shots of any guard on your team isn’t impressive. Your backcourt isn’t very good outside of Curbelo and Frazier. That’s why a lot of people don’t consider you a contender in the conference.
We upgraded from Miller with Plummer. Why is it worse than last season? Curbelo, Frazier, and Miller to better Curbelo, similar Frazier, and a better player in Plummer. How is it worse?
This is your argument? Lol
No, this is me laughing at how terrible your guards have been.
 
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