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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

Ryan Cline: 39.8% career 3 point shooter on 319 attempts
Mcroberts: 37.1% career 3 point shooter on on 62 atttempts

STFU
I'm not talking career. Im talking about last season.

And the point was that IU is the better shooting TEAM. Purdue has some good shooters, but IU is better across the board.
 
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I'm not talking career. Im talking about last season.

And the point was that IU is the better shooting TEAM. Purdue has some good shooters, but IU is better across the board.
$50 to the charity of your or my choice that Purdue will finish with a higher 3 point field goal percentage this year.

You down?
 
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How on earth does IU project to be a better shooting team? The only player you have that have averages about 35% have very few attempts.
Can you explain who will these miraculous shooters are and why?
 
How on earth does IU project to be a better shooting team? The only player you have that have averages about 35% have very few attempts.
Can you explain who will these miraculous shooters are and why?
Well... Morgan shot 39% during conference last season. I would expect him to be around that this year. Fitzner has never shot below 41%. Green was a 40% 3pt shooter during conference. Romeo had a decent shooting percentage in high school, and that was facing double teams and off balance 3s. I expect him to be around 37%. McBobs as has already been pointed out shot 39% from 3 last year.

Those 5 guys will take the bulk of the 3s for IU this season.
 
More like the 40-50 range.

Top 10 team last year who only returns about 40% production, didn't have any future breakout stars on the team last year and is bringing in only one kid (Boudreax) who would get 15+ minutes a game for any other random NCAA tournament caliber club.

Torvik has this one about right at 44.

I agree with most of the post, but Boudreaux is a solid get. He was highly sought after.
 
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Well... Morgan shot 39% during conference last season. I would expect him to be around that this year. Fitzner has never shot below 41%. Green was a 40% 3pt shooter during conference. Romeo had a decent shooting percentage in high school, and that was facing double teams and off balance 3s. I expect him to be around 37%. McBobs as has already been pointed out shot 39% from 3 last year.

Those 5 guys will take the bulk of the 3s for IU this season.
McBob shoots an average of one per game ams Fitz less than 4. Romeo has a 35% career average and Morgan is around 30%. Carsen, Cline and Evan have better averages than anyone in your team with many more attempts. I am baffled how IU fans can project their players getting better and other teams remain the same. Good grief, even Grady hit a bunch of 3’s last week in scrimmages. We also have new guys who were better shooters in high school than Romeo. It’s just not logical to say IU will shoot better as the numbers don’t support it.
 
How on earth does IU project to be a better shooting team? The only player you have that have averages about 35% have very few attempts.
Can you explain who will these miraculous shooters are and why?
What are your expectations for Purdue again this year? I can't remember and am too lazy to look it up. Thoughts on IU?

Just for a refresher on mine.
IU top four/five in the B10 and make the NCAA Tournament
Purdue five/six in the B10 and make the NCAA Tournament
Split the games between IU/PU
Neither team win the B10 Tourney
Neither team making it out of the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament

That way we can poke fun at whoever is more wrong with their projections. :)
 
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It’s just not logical to say IU will shoot better as the numbers don’t support it.
Better than Purdue or better than last year? Not sure on better than Purdue, but we'll 100% certainly be better than last year. I'll go as far as saying our 3pt shooting won't be nearly as big of a hindrance as it was last year. We won't be one of the best shooting teams, but we won't be the worst either.
 
The best part of the McBob/Cline argument is that McBob wasn't even a better player than Cline when they played together in high school.
 
The best part of the McBob/Cline argument is that McBob wasn't even a better player than Cline when they played together in high school.
I'll take McRoberts all day every day over Cline. Not really close to me.
 
I'll take McRoberts all day every day over Cline. Not really close to me.
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Have fun with the guy who needs training wheels taken off before he feels confident enough to shoot.
 
McBob shoots an average of one per game ams Fitz less than 4. Romeo has a 35% career average and Morgan is around 30%. Carsen, Cline and Evan have better averages than anyone in your team with many more attempts. I am baffled how IU fans can project their players getting better and other teams remain the same. Good grief, even Grady hit a bunch of 3’s last week in scrimmages. We also have new guys who were better shooters in high school than Romeo. It’s just not logical to say IU will shoot better as the numbers don’t support it.
A. Romeo was a 36% shooter with many shots that were forced or off balance. That wont be the case this at IU.

B. I gave you Morgan and Green's conference numbers for LAST season. Career shooting has nothing to do with anything. Last season they shot very well from 3 in conference.

C. EB was a 35% from 3 in his last season at Dartmouth.

D. Do you project Eastern to be a better shooter than Green? What about EB vs Fitzner? What about Haarms vs Morgan? Eifert vs Smith? If you answered no to all the above questions, then you have your answer as to which team will be the better shooting team.
 
A. Romeo was a 36% shooter with many shots that were forced or off balance. That wont be the case this at IU.

B. I gave you Morgan and Green's conference numbers for LAST season. Career shooting has nothing to do with anything. Last season they shot very well from 3 in conference.

C. EB was a 35% from 3 in his last season at Dartmouth.

D. Do you project Eastern to be a better shooter than Green? What about EB vs Fitzner? What about Haarms vs Morgan? Eifert vs Smith? If you answered no to all the above questions, then you have your answer as to which team will be the better shooting team.
I would say no on Eastern and yes on the rest. Haarms maybe or maybe not, but I don know he can hit them and he has been told to take more.
Are we talking percentage or number of made shots? McBob is gonna give you one per game which isn’t much, but it’s 40%.
I am a assuming you are gonna go ahead and call Carsen and Cline the best no matter which player you compare them to?
 
Look at Oklahoma and Trey Young. See how well they did with a prolific scorer and no supporting cast. Something like 18-13. BUT Trey Young got his. Real awesome.

Won more games than projected..
Made the Dance when they weren't projected (at the start of the season)..
Got a kid who wasn't on the preseason NBA Mock Draft drafted in the lotto..
Seems kinda awesome. ?

What, exactly, is rival-fan's beef with ESPN slurping all over Trae Young?
Because they weren't slurping their guy? their team?
All it did was apply massive pressure to a middle-tier P6+ team.
And they struggled with it mightily down the stretch..

Imo, Purdue 2018-19 > Oklahoma 2017-18.
Once in the tourney, anything goes.
 
I would say no on Eastern and yes on the rest. Haarms maybe or maybe not, but I don know he can hit them and he has been told to take more.
Are we talking percentage or number of made shots? McBob is gonna give you one per game which isn’t much, but it’s 40%.
I am a assuming you are gonna go ahead and call Carsen and Cline the best no matter which player you compare them to?
Fitzner is a good shooter. Think you need to include him with Carsen and Cline.
 
I would say no on Eastern and yes on the rest. Haarms maybe or maybe not, but I don know he can hit them and he has been told to take more.
Are we talking percentage or number of made shots? McBob is gonna give you one per game which isn’t much, but it’s 40%.
I am a assuming you are gonna go ahead and call Carsen and Cline the best no matter which player you compare them to?
Either percentage or made, Green, Fitzner, Smith, and Morgan will beat out the counterpart I just mentioned.

Yes, I'm giving you Carsen over Romeo and Cline over McBobs.
 
Homie was here pre-participation rewards.
Prob posts <50 posts a year now.

But, great comeback.
Thought he was a troll but got him confused with an MSU poster who’s username slips my mind or id tag him.
 
Just some info for the 3P shooting discussion.

3P shooting for the players each team has returning from last year:

Purdue - 143-362 (39.5%)
IU - 79-243 (32.5%)

This excludes Boudreaux (38% career) and Fitzner (41% career).
What were the conference numbers?
 
B. I gave you Morgan and Green's conference numbers for LAST season. Career shooting has nothing to do with anything. Last season they shot very well from 3 in conference.
Are you trolling here or are you actually being serious? I hope for your sake it's the former. Career shooting percentages give you a larger sample size look at a shooter, rather than one season or in your case a conference season, which can be a fluke (either good or bad). When looking at a 10-year veteran in the NBA, are you going to categorize him as a good or bad shooter based on what he shot last season from 3 or look at the whole body of work from the 10 seasons?
 
Are you trolling here or are you actually being serious? I hope for your sake it's the former. Career shooting percentages give you a larger sample size look at a shooter, rather than one season or in your case a conference season, which can be a fluke (either good or bad). When looking at a 10-year veteran in the NBA, are you going to categorize him as a good or bad shooter based on what he shot last season from 3 or look at the whole body of work from the 10 seasons?
Not the best example. Players can get better. And some can get considerably better. I'm sure there are cases where someone wasn't a good shooter at some point but got considerably better over their career. Case in point, Vic Oladipo. He wasn't a good shooter when he got to IU. Look at him now. Much better and has gotten better over the course of his career.
 
Just some info for the 3P shooting discussion.

3P shooting for the players each team has returning from last year:

Purdue - 143-362 (39.5%)
IU - 79-243 (32.5%)

This excludes Boudreaux (38% career) and Fitzner (41% career).
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Not the best example. Players can get better. And some can get considerably better. I'm sure there are cases where someone wasn't a good shooter at some point but got considerably better over their career. Case in point, Vic Oladipo. He wasn't a good shooter when he got to IU. Look at him now. Much better and has gotten better over the course of his career.
Eastern has the same percentage as Green, right around 33%. Nobody thinks Eastern is a good longe range shooter.
We should compare shots made and that’s when you see that when comparing the Evans, Fitzner averages .7 made 3’s per game compared to 1.4 for Bordeaux.
 
Not the best example. Players can get better. And some can get considerably better. I'm sure there are cases where someone wasn't a good shooter at some point but got considerably better over their career. Case in point, Vic Oladipo. He wasn't a good shooter when he got to IU. Look at him now. Much better and has gotten better over the course of his career.
Definitely true. Still, most of the time, I'd rather judge a player's strengths and weaknesses over an 100 game stretch rather than a 15 game stretch.
 
Are you trolling here or are you actually being serious? I hope for your sake it's the former. Career shooting percentages give you a larger sample size look at a shooter, rather than one season or in your case a conference season, which can be a fluke (either good or bad). When looking at a 10-year veteran in the NBA, are you going to categorize him as a good or bad shooter based on what he shot last season from 3 or look at the whole body of work from the 10 seasons?
That's just dumb. Here is an example why.

Player A:

10%
13%
15%
42%

Career average: 20%

Player B
19%
22%
24%
25%

Career average: 22.5%

Okay, now you are heading into a new season. Is player A or B the better shooter?
 
Eastern has the same percentage as Green, right around 33%. Nobody thinks Eastern is a good longe range shooter.
We should compare shots made and that’s when you see that when comparing the Evans, Fitzner averages .7 made 3’s per game compared to 1.4 for Bordeaux.
Fitz was playing behind some good bigs, which impacted his minutes. As for EB, he was the man on an absolutely terrible team in a terrible conference. Also needs to be considered.

I'd also argue Green has a good looking shot. Eastern? Not so much.
 
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