That is why Michigan State feels good with Keion Brooks in my opinion. Those days should be over and these two recruitment will hopefully show that.
*Official* B1G Off-season Thread
- Thread starter jwardelt
- Start date
That is why Michigan State feels good with Keion Brooks in my opinion. Those days should be over and these two recruitment will hopefully show that.
I've heard rumors that Keion wants to play the 2 guard position at 6"8, although right now I think he would be better as a 3 in college. He can shoot from the outside, is agile, and has a decent handle for his size so that would seem to fit well with Trayce's inside game.
My only problem with Keion is, when I've watched him he seems to go through lapses where he gets more complacent and less aggressive. Like he almost takes quarters off, and doesn't seem to make his teammates better at times. It's the main reason he hasn't been able to take his teams too far in the state tourney, well that and I think his coaches have been relatively mediocre.
He's obviously really talented, I just think he's more of just an elite complimentary piece on a great team, rather than a guy who can lead a team to a great season. That being said maybe it's just the coaching and he will blossom as a leader once he gets to college, I don't know. Obviously I'd love to have him.
He measured in at 6' 6.5" (in shoes) at the Team USA minicamp. Not that it matters that much, but more inline with an ideal SG size.
He is being told he will be a "guard", because recruiting, but he is really a 3-4. TJD is being told he is a 4 but will play the 5 in every system because again recruiting. TJD needs to improve greatly away from the basket.
The same way TJD is perfect for Archie's system I feel the same way about Keion. People hated Crean for this but it really is "postionless" basketball
Which one is it? I didn’t contradict myself. I said WOTS in Northern Indiana is that MSU has the lead in this one, but most insiders believe it’s IU.
you put Hunter, Brooks, and TJD at the 3/4/5 and you have a lot of length and athleticism. that would be a scary bunch. Definitely agree that TJD is the higher priority for IU considering need. I've always thought he reminds me a bit of Brice Johnson from UNC a couple years back and feel that he has that kind of ceiling.
I am fine with Brooks wanting to play the 2, but guys like him need to start with less responsibility, build their skillsets, and then transition to those roles. Guys like Josh Jackson and Jayson Tatum (among others) essentially did that -- played more of a stretch/mobile 4 in college and moved to the 2/3 in the pros. Not saying Brooks is that good, but he does have immense talent...though I agree with SIHoosier that he can blend in a bit considering his talent.
I think you are seeing Archie do this exact think with Hunter. He is doing some drill work with the guards but for this year he is going to play that forward role behind Smith. He could eventually get to be more of a guard but it isn't happening this year.
Oh okay he looked in person like he was a bit over 6"7. He was about 2 inches taller than Romeo. Nonetheless, his size and skillset seems to fit a bit better at the 3, but like Klize said it might just be a recruiting tactic.
Loved when Kansas had Jackson, played him at the 2-4.
Awesome to have a player of that caliber playing all over the court each game.
He was a cheap-foul seeking missile, but he was funtastic.
that makes sense -- Vince and Hummel primarily worked with the guards while primarily playing the 4. I think defending guards and handling the ball in a half court setting is normally a difficult transition for those types, so playing the 4 eases that transition.
i did not enjoy watching josh jackson*
*based on one game, that I drove to Kansas City to watch
Good post, I hope you're right. Just the last 20 years or so makes me a bit gun shy in terms of predicting what's going to happen.
Almost every one of these preseason prediction articles brings up Marcus Bingham as an impact freshman for MSU. I think he's probably closer to MSU's 3rd or 4th best of the freshman this season. He's like a skinnier, less developed version of JJJ that is further down the depth chart.
Lazy journalism at its finest. "Who is their highest rated recruit? He's the impact newcomer for sure!"
I'm not sure if he is or not, but someone just told me they think Brazdeikas is cockier than Stauskas. You guys are going to hate him.
On a side note, Stauskas stole the show last night in LeBron's opener with L.A. so that is cool.
On a side note, Stauskas stole the show last night in LeBron's opener with L.A. so that is cool.
Good for him, really cocky but most of the time backed it up. One of the better pure shooters I've ever seen.
Easily the UM that annoyed me the most. He consistently lit us up. Good for him though.
Yup. I think he’s step back three vs Wisconsin is one of my top 10 shots of the Beilein era.
I can see that. Darius Morris told your PG to get off his court. Burke slapped the floor after stealing the ball from Appling. Novak dropped like 6 threes. I think those three would crack top 5 most hated Michigan players (by MSU fans). Then probably Stauskas and Wagner.
Oh yeah, they are probably a bit more hated but Nik just annoyed me. We couldn’t stop him.
****in Mizzou, never stopped contact with him even after he verballed. Kind of a dick move, **** Cuonzo.
In different conferences, is it really that uncommon? It’d make sense if it was the same conference.
It’s a bad beat. The “flip” doesn’t happen in college basketball too often.
Still upset about Tyus Battle flipping. The irony is he went to Syracuse for more exposure but Michigan is the team that played in the NCG.
damn that sucks if true. i feel like in football that's kinda the norm, but in basketball it's not common at all
Kenpom preseason rankings.
13.MSU
18.PU
20.Wisconsin
24.Michigan
28.Indiana
30.Maryland
32.PSU
35.Iowa
38.Nebraska
41.OSU
58.Northwestern
60.Minnesota
80.Illinois
149.Rutgers
13.MSU
18.PU
20.Wisconsin
24.Michigan
28.Indiana
30.Maryland
32.PSU
35.Iowa
38.Nebraska
41.OSU
58.Northwestern
60.Minnesota
80.Illinois
149.Rutgers
Yeah, there is no rule against contacting a player after he has verballed, but it's almost like an unwritten rule in cbb that you don't actively recruit a player that has verbally committed.
I can’t remember wasn’t Ken Pom friendly to the B1G last year and then only got 4 teams in the tournament?
Football it’s obviously every recruit, but this isn’t unheard of stuff in b-ball it’s just far less common. Cincy recruited Terone Johnson until signing day, Cal obviously flipped Derek Willis. Hell Valpo’s coach recruited Scott Martin during his freshman year at Purdue.
I would agree that there are a lot of coaches that wouldn’t play that game — feel like especially in the B1G — but I’ve been told for a while that Zo is a win at all costs guy.
Maybe this is just me, but I think this happens more than we’re led to believe. Maybe not to the extent that it happens in CFB, but I think it still happens.
It does happen for sure. It isn’t like Sampson first talked to the Gordon’s or at least someone veryclose to them until he decommited
I feel like the B1G's old guard of coaches (Izzo, Painter, McCaffery, Beilein) probably still stick to that unwritten rule within the conference. But it seems like that's eventually going to go by the wayside. But the good news is it doesn't seem like the league has any demonstrably shady actors. There's a couple that are on that line, but for the most part the conference has straight shooters.
I really hope basketball recruiting doesn't become like football recruiting, because that is such a shitshow and nearly impossible to follow without a day-to-day update.
I dunno I was wanting to go through the preseason rankings last year and compared to end of the year conference standings.
Similar threads
