Sexual assault? You think that’s what happened with Haas?
And what’s your definition of “a ton of kids arrested for drugs?” Pretty obvious you’re just trolling at this point.
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Sexual assault? You think that’s what happened with Haas?
And what’s your definition of “a ton of kids arrested for drugs?” Pretty obvious you’re just trolling at this point.
He literally showed old posts where he said it was serious and if true, that Haas should be prosecuted. Where is he downplaying it? He’s simply saying what Haas did doesn’t compare to what Appling and Payne did which is true. They’re not comparable at all.
I think you're just fishing here, but you might want to be more careful on this one! If you catch one of those STDs....you might not be able to throw this one back.
That's not quite what I'm saying. If he was guilty of raping the girl he should be kicked off the team and jailed. Sitting him for Conduct Unbecoming doesn't say you think he did it. It's showing that you don't want your players putting themselves in situations like that to begin with. Adrien Payne said the girl said "Stop". The girl says she said "Stop". Is there enough to prosecute a rape case? Maybe not but if I'm a coach I'm not happy that my player didn't "Stop" and teaching him a lesson through sitting him a half or a game doesn't sound harsh.
I said alcohol and drugs. Here’s who I’ve got off the top of my head. Could be missing some.
Lewis Jackson
Ryne Cline
DJ Byrd
Kelsey Barlow
Gordon Watt
Keaton Grant
Then throw in Haas and it’s quite the list. Just saying that y’all aren’t really the guys to be criticizing other programs for what they do or don’t do in terms of punishment of players.
Yes, six guys arrested for public intox or DUI in 13 years is problematic. It's almost as bad as the 2014 and 2015 calendar years in Bloomington.
Weak list and you know it. Lewjack is the only one that had a serious arrest and that was years after he was already graduated.
I didn't take it that way...was just pointing out to you that it didn't seem like you were trying to argue for him in that statement.
That list is laughable. Beyond laughable actually.
@boiler1987 - Sure did. I forgot it in another but clearly stated it here which was before the second reference.
Oh look, it's SNU posting again.
In other news, I saw Mgkcbb thinks Illinois will be better than MSU this season.
I don't know when Izzo saw that video of Payne, but if that were my son and I saw that video, he'd be lucky to have even made his next game.
Classes, seminars, volunteer weekends at women's clinics.. whatever it takes for as long as it takes.
Young men with a lot to lose usually act smarter when held accountable and to a higher standard.
Classes, seminars, volunteer weekends at women's clinics.. whatever it takes for as long as it takes.
Young men with a lot to lose usually act smarter when held accountable and to a higher standard.
The transcript was released October 1st, 2010 before Appling’s freshman season.
Off-season pissing match round #413 Indiana vs. Purdue fans.
And I think there has been one common denominator in all 413. Someone is clearly obsessed with Purdue.Off-season pissing match round #413 Indiana vs. Purdue fans.
Do we know of any courses or education that may have been pushed onto these guys? It doesn't have to be publicized, but I would hope the coaches did something... Smh
Malik Hall update. Dude definitely plays things close to the vest.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-malik-hall-discusses-top-five
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-malik-hall-discusses-top-five
Is the gist of what Snow is reporting that that Purdue leads with Franklin, Purdue and IU are in a tight race with Newman (with a couple others involved as well), but Franklin would hurt Purdue's chances with Newman?
I'd be ecstatic with a Thompson/Newman/Franklin/Gillis class. Somehow get Malik Hall and wowza.
Yes think he said Purdue had a slight edge with Franklin but not as much as originally thought. They've just said its doubtful both go to the same place since they are too similar of players.
Bull covered it. Will be interested to see what the Franklin feels are after this weekend.
Gotcha, thanks.
I don't really think that they're very similar players, but they both project to play the same position so I could easily see there being some hesitancy of going to the same school. Painter has essentially always used a 3 guard lineup though, so hopefully that is considered.
Nope, and that's the problem. As far as we know Izzo didn't do anything and MSU fans are happy about that.
C’mon, you know that’s not what I said. I’m saying, with the info presented AT THE TIME I agree with the call and understand it.
I’m NOT saying Appling or Payne are good people or didn’t do anything wrong.
I’m saying, if we are going to kick people off the team for a claim when no charges were filed, I disagree with that. That’s wrong. This is a general statement though. That’s just wrong.
Meh, kinda of. No charges being filed doesn't always mean someone's not guilty. Just means, at times, there's simply not enough to charge someone with a crime. Or the evidence isn't strong enough to get a conviction. Doesn't mean your innocent. My issue is why nothing? No suspensions right?
Yeah not that they're identical, Newman more of a 2, Franklin a bit of a combo, but neither is a surefire 1 or 2 like say a Phinisee or Romeo. They'd still be competing for time with each other.
Why at the time? The interview had already happened and the police transcript was already released.
Coaches bench players for conduct unbecoming of an athlete all the god damn time. Coach belicheck once sat a RB a whole game for being late for practice. I know because my wife started him in fantasy that week. Miss me with the “files have to be charged to teach a lesson” b/s.
You still didn’t answer me about why you lied about no police report being filed.
Late November/Early December conference games are the greatest thing to happen to B1G hoops since?
A solid month of quality opponents before Christmas
Nov. 14 - MARQUETTE (Gavitt Games)
Nov. 18 - at Arkansas (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 20 - UT Arlington (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 23 - UC Davis (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 27 - at Duke (ACC/Big Ten Challenge)
Dec. 1 - Northwestern
Dec. 4 - at Penn State
Dec. 8 - LOUISVILLE
Dec. 15 - vs. Butler in Indy (Crossroads Classic)
A solid month of quality opponents before Christmas
Nov. 14 - MARQUETTE (Gavitt Games)
Nov. 18 - at Arkansas (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 20 - UT Arlington (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 23 - UC Davis (Hardwood Classic)
Nov. 27 - at Duke (ACC/Big Ten Challenge)
Dec. 1 - Northwestern
Dec. 4 - at Penn State
Dec. 8 - LOUISVILLE
Dec. 15 - vs. Butler in Indy (Crossroads Classic)
MSU’s big games in the non conference are
Kansas
UCLA
North Carolina or Texas
At Florida
Kansas
UCLA
North Carolina or Texas
At Florida
I have no idea how good Texas is supposed to be this year, you would have to think that Shaka's seat would at least be somewhat warm. Just seems he's still relying on that improbable run from a few years ago. Still a strong schedule as usual from Izzo, that MSU Kansas game should be interesting.
I think Texas will be decent this year. Probably not a top 25 team but could give Kansas or somebody from the Big 12 a good game. But I think we beat UCLA, and I assume that North Carolina beats Texas, so we will more than likely play North Carolina, who I think we lose too.
Kansas will more than likely beat us, but as you said, if things go right or could be interesting. Those Lawson twins look great, and I think there center is a monster (can’t shoot free throws to save his life though, cost them the Oklahoma game)
These are the type of teams Izzo seems to do well with. Not a lot of NBA talent but still a ton of experience.
For sure. We do have 5 Freshman on the roster, so if some of them can contribute that would majorly help us out. We’ll see this year. Should be interesting.
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