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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

I’m not saying he should be in there over Morgan, but he’s above Fitzner and Green and Hunter and Smith regardless of position.
Nope. He would be the four, where Morgan plays. He would be a backup without question. So, thinking logically about this (which I get is an issue for you), as he’s a four he wouldn’t really play over Fitzner or Smith. Don’t think we know if he would be over Smith yet. Think Smith could have a really strong year. Hunter I’ll give you.
 
There isn’t a chance in hell he should be the four instead of Morgan. So, comparing a four to a five is dumb. Real dumb.
You’re only calling Fitzner a 5 because he’s 6’10. From what I understand nothing about his game screams that he’s a 5. A skinny finesse shooter that’s averaged 3 rebounds per game for his career. I think he will help IU this year but he’s not your prototypical 5.
 
Getting pretty loose with the term sexual predator. I don’t condone his actions. Simply stated that the suit was dropped.
It's exactly what you call someone in his position. Knowingly or recklessly transmitting STDs is a crime.

These cases are dropped often when the victim becomes aware of the extent that a trial will go to. It's a lot of time, stress, publicity, and it can be extremely traumatic for some people.

You can be convicted of the criminal transmission of an STD only if you cause someone else to be infected intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly. For example, if you have been diagnosed with an STD and later engage in sexual relations with someone else without telling that person you have the disease, you can be convicted of this crime if that person becomes infected.


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Guy is a piece of shit and a sexual predator.
 
You’re only calling Fitzner a 5 because he’s 6’10. From what I understand nothing about his game screams that he’s a 5. A skinny finesse shooter that’s averaged 3 rebounds per game for his career. I think he will help IU this year but he’s not your prototypical 5.
Right. We didn’t have a five for the B10 last year and we’re fine defensively. What we need is someone who can help space the floor and knock down the open 3’s which is what I believe he can do. So you’re right on the prototypical five comment. To me, that’s Davis but I’m not sure that’s a great thing having him on the block constantly clogging up the lane.
 
Right. We didn’t have a five for the B10 last year and we’re fine defensively. What we need is someone who can help space the floor and knock down the open 3’s which is what I believe he can do. So you’re right on the prototypical five comment. To me, that’s Davis but I’m not sure that’s a great thing having him on the block constantly clogging up the lane.
That’s my point. Evan B is 2 inches shorter than Fitzner but weighs more & rebounds at a higher rate, averaged more blocks per game, and still can space the floor so I don’t think comparing the 2 players is crazy. They’re both stretch 4’s.
 
That’s my point. Evan B is 2 inches shorter than Fitzner but weighs more & rebounds at a higher rate, averaged more blocks per game, and still can space the floor so I don’t think comparing the 2 players is crazy. They’re both stretch 4’s.
Fitzner played in a better conference for a better team. Evan B played in a terrible conference for a terrible team. They may be close, but I would rather have the height and the better 3pt percentage than the rebounds. We NEED the 3pt shooting.
 
Why is that a foregone conclusion? Smith had a decent freshman year and think he will be good but think Evan B. is the more proven player.
Evan B hasnt played in two years. When he did play, he put up good numbers on an Ivy League bottom feeder. I think he should be a good player, but I'm taking Smith over him every time.
 
Evan B hasnt played in two years. When he did play, he put up good numbers on an Ivy League bottom feeder. I think he should be a good player, but I'm taking Smith over him every time.
He was pretty efficient for having a USG% around 30 which will obviously drop on the Purdue team with more options around him. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, I’ll take Evan B. for this upcoming season every time.
 
Evan B hasnt played in two years. When he did play, he put up good numbers on an Ivy League bottom feeder. I think he should be a good player, but I'm taking Smith over him every time.
And Fitnzer DIDN’T put up numbers against San Fran-****ing-cisco. Man this is easy.

Also, Fitzner transfered because he couldn’t/wouldn’t crack the line up this coming year. Evan B transferred because he was a good player on a bad team and wanted a chance to win. Big difference.
 
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Fitnzer had to transfer down from St. Mary’s to IU to find playing time. Man that’s wild.
 
And Fitnzer DIDN’T put up numbers against San Fran-****ing-cisco. Man this is easy.

Also, Fitzner transfered because he couldn’t/wouldn’t crack the line up this coming year. Evan B transferred because he was a good player on a bad team and wanted a chance to win. Big difference.
You really picking individual games to critique? I can go grab games Edwards didn’t play well, but I dont, because I’m not an idiot.
 
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Fitnzer had to transfer down from St. Mary’s to IU to find playing time. Man that’s wild.
He transferred to IU because he’s exactly what we need. I know it hurts your feelings knowing I’d take him over Haarms, but truth hurt little bro.
 
And Fitnzer DIDN’T put up numbers against San Fran-****ing-cisco. Man this is easy.

Also, Fitzner transfered because he couldn’t/wouldn’t crack the line up this coming year. Evan B transferred because he was a good player on a bad team and wanted a chance to win. Big difference.
What exactly are you arguing? Did I ever say Fitzner was better than Evan B? No. I said Smith was better.
 
He transferred to IU because he’s exactly what we need. I know it hurts your feelings knowing I’d take him over Haarms, but truth hurt little bro.
He transferred to IU because of the opportunity to play because of a bad roster. He would’ve rode the pine at St. Mary’s.
 
Don’t think most people would take him over Haarms.
To be completely honest, I dont think we really know too much about each. Both will get significant time this year. But on the surface, Fitzner is a much better shooter which is what we need. So, given that, I’ll take Fitzner.
 
Based on college production I have no clue how you draw that conclusion.
It’s pretty simple, really. Some people actually understand the game of basketball. Try to learn someday (not real hopeful you have the capacity).
 
It’s pretty simple, really. Some people actually understand the game of basketball. Try to learn someday (not real hopeful you have the capacity).
I’m basing my opinion on what EB has done during his first two years. Production.

You’re basing yours off of a projection and wishful thinking. Delusional.
 
I’m basing my opinion on what EB has done during his first two years. Production.

You’re basing yours off of a projection and wishful thinking. Delusional.
Oh Blaire...

One has played in the B10 and is clearly going to be a very solid player. The other played in a terrible league and hasn’t produced anything in the B10. Worlds different. Again, try learning and understanding the game a little better. You’ve got nowhere to go but up little bro!
 
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What’s really funny is we heard from Purdue fans last year that there wasn’t ANY way IU would finish any higher than like 9th last year. Same type of bullshit reasons from them which turned out to be completely inaccurate. Multiple IU fans said we though middle of the pack was the high side and got laughed at by Purdue fans.

And here we are, reading the same dumb reasons from them again this year. Color me shocked.
Iu finished 16-15 and got beat up by rutgers their last game of the year lol
 
I’m basing my opinion on what EB has done during his first two years. Production.

You’re basing yours off of a projection and wishful thinking. Delusional.

I'll be the first to tell you not to get too excited about players putting up studly numbers for dogshit programs. I made that mistake with Jaaron Simmons.
 
FaCt iS nObOdY hAd HaAs BrEaKiNg An ElBoW..
The argument that Purdue had a fail season is BS. 30 win season and they made the S16 without their SR starting big man. Once you lose a starter in the tourney, you're playing from behind. They still beat Butler and lost to a stud Tech team. No shame there.

Notre Dame
ND finished at 79, Q1 wins stop at (otr) 75.

Tho, they may have been Q1 at the time, I suppose.
 
FaCt iS nObOdY hAd HaAs BrEaKiNg An ElBoW..
The argument that Purdue had a fail season is BS. 30 win season and they made the S16 without their SR starting big man. Once you lose a starter in the tourney, you're playing from behind. They still beat Butler and lost to a stud Tech team. No shame there.


ND finished at 79, Q1 wins stop at (otr) 75.

Tho, they may have been Q1 at the time, I suppose.

Well said!
 
FaCt iS nObOdY hAd HaAs BrEaKiNg An ElBoW..
The argument that Purdue had a fail season is BS. 30 win season and they made the S16 without their SR starting big man. Once you lose a starter in the tourney, you're playing from behind. They still beat Butler and lost to a stud Tech team. No shame there.


ND finished at 79, Q1 wins stop at (otr) 75.

Tho, they may have been Q1 at the time, I suppose.
Don’t think anyone said their season was a failure.
 
I'll be the first to tell you not to get too excited about players putting up studly numbers for dogshit programs. I made that mistake with Jaaron Simmons.
What about getting too excited about players not putting up numbers at all against dog shit programs?
 
FaCt iS nObOdY hAd HaAs BrEaKiNg An ElBoW..
The argument that Purdue had a fail season is BS. 30 win season and they made the S16 without their SR starting big man. Once you lose a starter in the tourney, you're playing from behind. They still beat Butler and lost to a stud Tech team. No shame there.


ND finished at 79, Q1 wins stop at (otr) 75.

Tho, they may have been Q1 at the time, I suppose.
Preach.
 
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What about getting too excited about players not putting up numbers at all against dog shit programs?

I think calling one more proven than the other is disingenuous. I'd rather have "unproven" Ignas Brazdeikas in 2018 than "proven" Jaaron Simmons.
 
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What about getting too excited about players not putting up numbers at all against dog shit programs?
Yup. Or what about bringing four starters in who largely didn’t produce a damn thing last year and expecting them to be able to beat the Warriors? Let me tell ya, the whole B10 is gonna be terrified of Cline and Eastern. Lulz. TERRIFIED!
 
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I’m not saying he should be in there over Morgan, but he’s above Fitzner and Green and Hunter and Smith regardless of position.

Not smith. Maybe hunter and green, a wash with fitzner.
 
Some solid numbers from ESPNs preseason BPI. I won't link the garbage, but here is the Big Ten along with national rank.

Wisconsin - 8
Michigan State - 13
Iowa - 19
Illinois - 21
Northwestern - 26
Indiana - 29
Purdue - 37
Maryland - 38
Michigan - 40
Penn State - 42
Minnesota - 43
Nebraska - 46
Ohio State - 82
Rutgers - not in top 100

Seems legit.
 
Yup. Or what about bringing four starters in who largely didn’t produce a damn thing last year and expecting them to be able to beat the Warriors? Let me tell ya, the whole B10 is gonna be terrified of Cline and Eastern. Lulz. TERRIFIED!
And this is why no one takes you serious.
 
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