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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

Well to be fair, that’s a pretty disturbing story. Just as bad as some of the things out of other B10 programs later.

Didn’t say it wasn’t disturbing. Jimmy is beating a dead horse though and has mentioned it probably a good 20 times if not more.
 
Didn’t say it wasn’t disturbing. Jimmy is beating a dead horse though and has mentioned it probably a good 20 times if not more.
Dont think you can beat that dead horse enough. I’ve literally never heard of something like that before. It’s disgusting.
 
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Where did I say it was some sort of accomplishment? I’m touting being right and you Purdue fans being wrong. And considering we’re talking about being right with projecting the standings this year or where our teams finished, it actually has some relevance. Y’all thought I and others were crazy for thinking 6th was possible. You guys were wrong. So I think it adds credibility to IU fans when projecting their standings and discredits whatever some of you Purdue fans (homer ones) think. I was Wrong with regards to how good Purdue was last year offensively, but pegged them in the B10 and Tourney results exactly. But then again, they weren’t anything special last year considering how bad you say the B10 was. All you guys did was beat up on bad teams and you still don’t have anything to show for it. Whoooooops.
Conviently ignores Haas injury and that’s fine. That’s your MO. Purdue fans weren’t wrong. Most Purdue fans including me didn’t think IU would be good last year, and they weren’t. You can hang your hat on that “finished 6th” in the conference technicality all you want, still doesn’t change the fact that IU was dog shit last year. Lol. But congrats man, you were right on IU finishing 6th in the conference! Sweet!
 
Conviently ignores Haas injury and that’s fine. That’s your MO. Purdue fans weren’t wrong. Most Purdue fans including me didn’t think IU would be good last year, and they weren’t. You can hang your hat on that “finished 6th” in the conference technicality all you want, still doesn’t change the fact that IU was dog shit last year. Lol. But congrats man, you were right on IU finishing 6th in the conference! Sweet!
Facts matter little bro. You said IU wouldn’t finish anywhere close to 6th. They finished 6th. You were wrong. I was right. You all thought Purdue would finish higher in the B10, they didn’t. Some thought Purdue would go farther in the tournament, they didn’t. I said the S16 was their ceiling. I was Right.

Feels good man. Feels real good. I can help you with your projections if you’d like, you need it.
 
Facts matter little bro. You said IU wouldn’t finish anywhere close to 6th. They finished 6th. You were wrong. I was right. You all thought Purdue would finish higher in the B10, they didn’t. Some thought Purdue would go farther in the tournament, they didn’t. I said the S16 was their ceiling. I was Right.

Feels good man. Feels real good. I can help you with your projections if you’d like, you need it.
Doubt many Purdue fans were projecting better than a 30-7 season with a 15-3 record in conference after losing an All-American the year before. I was optimistic about being a top 20 team but they even exceeded my expectations so I’m not sure what Purdue fans you are referring to.
 
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Doubt many Purdue fans were projecting better than a 30-7 season with a 15-3 record in conference after losing an All-American the year before. I was optimistic about being a top 20 team but they even exceeded my expectations so I’m not sure what Purdue fans you are referring to.
Purdue fans were overly optimistic about the season and y’all didn’t finish as high as people thought and didn’t go as far in the tournament. You beat up on bad teams. Can’t have it both ways. Either the conference sucked and y’all weren’t as good as you thought, or you have to give IU credit for doing what it took to finish sixth in the conference.

Either way, there isn’t a person on Purdue’s roster that would start for IU other than Edwards. None of your starters would crack our top eight man rotation.
 
Purdue fans were overly optimistic about the season and y’all didn’t finish as high as people thought and didn’t go as far in the tournament. You beat up on bad teams. Can’t have it both ways. Either the conference sucked and y’all weren’t as good as you thought, or you have to give IU credit for doing what it took to finish sixth in the conference.

Either way, there isn’t a person on Purdue’s roster that would start for IU other than Edwards. None of your starters would crack our top eight man rotation.
Haarms would beat out that slug Davis easily.
 
Haarms would beat out that slug Davis easily.

I was thinking about that and I think Davis is the better offensive player but Haarms is night and day better on defense. I think it’s a toss-up as to who’s the better player.
 
So to summarize the last couple of pages:

IU has questions but their fans are confident they will be overcome.

Purdue has questions but their fans are confident they will be overcome.

Sounds like the offseason.



Yup. As I posted 30+ pages ago:

only three things are guaranteed in life: death, taxes, and the iu-Purdue offseason flame-fests on this board. good times:

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Purdue fans were overly optimistic about the season and y’all didn’t finish as high as people thought and didn’t go as far in the tournament. You beat up on bad teams. Can’t have it both ways. Either the conference sucked and y’all weren’t as good as you thought, or you have to give IU credit for doing what it took to finish sixth in the conference.

Either way, there isn’t a person on Purdue’s roster that would start for IU other than Edwards. None of your starters would crack our top eight man rotation.

We didn’t go as far as far in the tournament because our most impactful player broke his elbow. Your argument would be legit if Haas hadn’t gotten hurt.
 
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I was thinking about that and I think Davis is the better offensive player but Haarms is night and day better on defense. I think it’s a toss-up as to who’s the better player.
Yeah but have to consider Davis is coming back from an Achilles injury. He won’t be ready to go by the start of the season and likely not to the B10 season. My guess is he’s not gonna be in great shape. So Haarms would probably log those backup minutes at the five.
 
Doubt many Purdue fans were projecting better than a 30-7 season with a 15-3 record in conference after losing an All-American the year before. I was optimistic about being a top 20 team but they even exceeded my expectations so I’m not sure what Purdue fans you are referring to.

this is correct. IIRC i predicted a top 3 finish and iu fans were all over it: lost swanigan, msu, nw, minn all ranked higher preseason, bubble team at best, etc.

happens every year, surprised so many (on both sides) keep getting hooked
 
But y’all didn’t finish as high as people thought and didn’t go as far in the tournament. You beat up on bad teams. Can’t have it both ways. Either the conference sucked and y’all weren’t as good as you thought, or you have to give IU credit for doing what it took to finish sixth in the conference.
Finishing 2nd in the big ten wasn’t as high as people thought? Weird. Purdue had the 2nd ranked offense and 31st defense in the nation with SOS of 34 which was 3rd toughest in the big ten I believe behind Mich and Wisconsin. Call it what you want but it was a good season.

Trying to say Purdue didn’t beat anyone is pretty laughable when IU didn’t beat a single team that made the tournament.
 
We didn’t go as far as far in the tournament because our most impactful player broke his elbow. Your argument would be legit if Haas hadn’t gotten hurt.
There are no asterisks next to your tournament history stating you had an injury. Fact is, you didn’t make it as far as some thought.
 
Finishing 2nd in the big ten wasn’t as high as people thought? Weird. Purdue had the 2nd ranked offense and 31st defense in the nation with SOS of 34 which was 3rd toughest in the big ten I believe behind Mich and Wisconsin. Call it what you want but it was a good season.

Trying to say Purdue didn’t beat anyone is pretty laughable when IU didn’t beat a single team that made the tournament.
Who did you best of note? UM, who after that?

Y’all hang banners for those offensive and defensive rankings? Did that win you the B10 or the NCAA Tournament? Whoooooops.
 
You all thought Purdue would finish higher in the B10, they didn’t

huh? not sure i recall any of our fans predicting higher than 2nd a year ago. i mean MSU was so heavily favored at this time i don't think anyone had a different team predicted to win the league

I said the S16 was their ceiling. I was Right.

c'mon snu, you're better than this. the ceiling was better than s16 with Haas, no question. that's like saying UVA's ceiling last year was the 1st round
 
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Who did you best of note? UM, who after that?
Well I considered all of these really solid wins at the time.
@UM UM @MD before they got hit with injuries Butler (twice) @Marq Arizona Louisville when they were ranked 16th and playing well. @IU which is always tough.
 
Nope. Fitzner will start at the five. He’s a significantly better shooter than Haarms which is something we need. Not a chance he would start.

Lol no. Haarms would start over Fitzner especially if Archie is a defensive-minded guy.
 
huh? not sure i recall any of our fans predicting higher than 2nd a year ago. i mean MSU was so heavily favored at this time i don't think anyone had a different team predicted to win the league



c'mon snu, you're better than this. the ceiling was better than s16 with Haas, no question. that's like saying UVA's ceiling last year was the 1st round

It’s laughable. So Purdue fans thought we’d finish higher than 2nd after losing Swanigan?! Not sure I remember a single Purdue fan predicting we’d win the conference last year.
 
Well I considered all of these really solid wins at the time.
@UM UM @MD before they got hit with injuries Butler (twice) @Marq Arizona Louisville when they were ranked 16th and playing well. @IU which is always tough.

I guess those aren’t good wins lol.
 
Who did you best of note? UM, who after that?

Y’all hang banners for those offensive and defensive rankings? Did that win you the B10 or the NCAA Tournament? Whoooooops.
Well you’re trying to paint a picture that Purdue wasn’t that good and just played nobodies and I’m trying to throw out, ya know, actual stats/proof why that isn’t true.
 
Lol no. Haarms would start over Fitzner especially if Archie is a defensive-minded guy.
Nope. Don’t think so. Fitzner being able to spread the floor and knock down the 3pt shot is way more important than the incremental benefit of Haarms’ defense.
 
Well you’re trying to paint a picture that Purdue wasn’t that good and just played nobodies and I’m trying to throw out, ya know, actual stats/proof why that isn’t true.
Who said that? Who said Purdue wasn’t good or didn’t have a good year? I’m simply saying that IU fans were right with their predictions and Purdue fans mocked us in the offseason last year. We’re conveniently going through the same thing this year which is why I’m pointing out y’all don’t have any credibility when talking about next year.
 
Nope. Don’t think so. Fitzner being able to spread the floor and knock down the 3pt shot is way more important than the incremental benefit of Haarms’ defense.

Incremental? Wow. Did you not watch Haarms play defense last year? Clearly seems like you didn’t.

Unlike Fitzner, Haarms has proven himself in the B1G especially on defense.
 
Who said that? Who said Purdue wasn’t good or didn’t have a good year? I’m simply saying that IU fans were right with their predictions and Purdue fans mocked us in the offseason last year. We’re conveniently going through the same thing this year which is why I’m pointing out y’all don’t have any credibility when talking about next year.
Where are all your predictions that you were so right about? I do remember you predicting IU would be a bubble team but you thought they’d be on the right side of the bubble.

Turns out their bubble popped before the big ten season. Whoooooooooops. You therefore have no credibility in preseason projections by the laws of SNU.
 
Arizona was garbage. Marquette and Louisville, Butler and Maryland were average. Both UM wins were good, I give you that.
I mean Arizona was a 4 seed so I don’t think that equates to them being garbage.
 
Where are all your predictions that you were so right about? I do remember you predicting IU would be a bubble team but you thought they’d be on the right side of the bubble.

Turns out their bubble popped before the big ten season. Whoooooooooops. You therefore have no credibility in preseason projections by the laws of SNU.

The bubble popped January 24th at Illinois
 
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Incremental? Wow. Did you not watch Haarms play defense last year? Clearly seems like you didn’t.
Jesus. Yes, Haarms is a good defender. He’s not the next f’ing Anthony Davis. This is why I laugh at Purdue fans. If you don’t suggest their players are the best thing EVER they get sensitive.

Again, the ability to space the floor and knock down the outside shot, which was one of our biggest weaknesses, is WAY more important than any INCREMENTA defensive improvement we would get from Haarms. If you go look, we did just fine on defense in the B10 last year without Davis or any real big man. So yes, Fitzner would start over Haarms based on what I’ve seen and heard so far this offseason.
 
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