He's like Jon Teske for us. Great defensively. Not much offensively. Solid player that I'm confident in as a starter but not someone I expect other people to be worried about.
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He's like Jon Teske for us. Great defensively. Not much offensively. Solid player that I'm confident in as a starter but not someone I expect other people to be worried about.
Okay? What does that have to do with anything?
These were all guys that were Painters guys that didn’t workout. He has a lot more of my list then he has Vince or Dakotas.
Zero guarantee any of these lower ranked guys workout great.
No I’m saying half those players were not A-list guys. I’m not going to act like Painter bats 1.000 but he’s had a pretty good track record
Fitzner averaged 5.0 points per game playing for Saint Mary's. Let's not pretend like he is unguardable, especially when talking about Haarms who is a good defender. If he was so unguardable he would have put up way better numbers at Saint Mary's.
Having good teams when he gets the guys that he wants and doesn’t have to rely on a class of Jacob Lawson/Donnie hale
Painter offered them and accepted their commitment so you’re saying he actually didn’t want them?
So he just sucks at getting the people he truly wants? Since he clearly didn’t want the others because he offered them all and accepted their commitments.
After he missed on the Branden Dawson’s and whatnot, he had to fill the class but no they were not A-list guys. Just like Jon hart wasn’t either.
I’m driving, will have to take time to actually look st who those players are when I’m home.
I mean no one from 2013 class finished at Purdue so I’d say that was lull even with his a list guys.
Matt has crushed a few classes and had great four year players but he has had trouble keeping that momentum
Obviously Carsen is a beast in his own.
And just because they’re “A-list” guys don’t mean they’re gonna be good. You know that right? Like Kline said, for every Mathias there are Ronnie Johnson’s. So it’s not like it’s a given that they’re gonna produce at a high level.
For Grant, are you referring to Keaton Grant? If so, wtf are you talking about? He doesn’t belong in the same category as those others.
He was a 4 year player that averaged 6 ppg as a senior and shot a career 38% from the field. If he doesn't belong on that list then who does?
No the underrated Grant Weatherford. I can include Barlow, Bade, Hart, Carroll (at least stayed for four years)
Not even sure what is being argued here. If Painter was such a good recruiter then what gives? Shouldn't a team with all that talent have made it past the Sweet 16 at least once? You can't use the injury excuse for 13 seasons. Either he's an average floor coach or he isn't bringing in as much talent as he should be.
Carsen Edwards scored 10 pts vs IU, while Morgan had 24 vs Haas and that defensive juggernaut Haarms.In fact Morgan alone outscored what PU returns, since in addition to CE the only scoring that returns for PU is a combined 6 pts from Haarms and Eastern. I understand you defending your player, but CE is going to have to shift roles vastly this season,and it will be interesting to see how he deals with the loss of other scoring options (that he benefited from) like VE,Haas and even Dakota. My prediction, CE is not the POY in the B1G...
If you objectively look at the talent he had during his best seasons, an injury has delrailed most of them. 2010, 2011, 2018.
If Hummel was healthy in 2011, Purdue wouldn’t have played VCU. Little Rock is the only bad loss in the tournament Painter has had.
He recruits good players to his system and wins games. I’m not sure how that can be argued.
Carsen Edwards was an All-American last season. Morgan was a 2nd team All-Big Ten player. What the hell does the head to head match up last season have to do with anything?
They were all guys that he really wanted though but didn’t pan out for one reason or the other. Bryson it was his attitude as he’s even alluded to on Twitter, Kendall got pushed out of playing time by Dakota who could shoot as well but just did everything better. Smotherman lost PT to Vince and Swanigan but was effective when he did play and sounds like basketball wasn’t his passion as he quit even after he transferred.
He's good, best on Purdue but better than Romeo by a large margin? There's a lot of stupid things said ITT lately don't add to it.
Keaton Grant won a lot of basketball games as a starter. Great defender that could handle the ball and hit the occasional big shot. He does not belong on that list.
No one claimed he was a great recruiter, just that when he gets his guys his teams have success. His winning % speaks for itself, he just needs a tournament run to take that next leap much like Jay Wright needed.
A lottttt of great freshman struggle in their first year leading a team. I mean, look at Swanigan. Didn’t reach his full potential until his sophomore year.
Ben Simmons & Markelle Fultz are much better players than Romeo and they couldn’t even make the tourney.
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