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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

Can someone call someone else a little brother when they have a career 52% winnning percentage? One program is about as mediocre as they come and IUs sucks
Theoretically speaking, I would say it's allowable if said program leads the all-time series against another program by 32 games and the other program has a 42% winning percentage in its history.
 
With the players all on campus and workouts beginning what reports have you guys been hearing?

We have heard some really good things about Green, Romeo, Hunter and Morgan. Nothing against the other folks just these four have stood out. The grad transfer Fitzner won't officially be on campus and working out until July I believe. He is in Indianapolis though working out and was on campus last weekend for the Parent/Son camp.

Starting lineup today would be Green, Romeo, Smith, McBob, Morgan. DeRon is progressing but is very much going to be an unknown health wise for a few more months it seems.
I'm really interested to see how much of an impact Hunter is able to make as a freshman. Obviously Langford is going to get all the attention coming into the season, but Hunter seems like he can be really effective in the mid-post - kind of similar to Morgan, but a better shooter. I know De'Ron Davis has all kinds of talent, but this IU roster seems much more suited for a small-ball lineup with Morgan at the five, and all kinds of spacing for guys like Langford and Green/Phinisee to operate.

For Purdue, I think there are three storylines this summer that are the most interesting/important to whether this is a fringe top 25 team or if they regress with the loss of the seniors:
  1. How does Carsen Edwards adjust to more of an on-the-ball role and can he keep his efficiency from dropping too much with higher usage and much more defensive focus?
  2. Does Matt Haarms take the next step offensively? He was great in his role last year as a defensive specialist who scored occasionally. Need him to become a second or third option and develop at least a 15-footer for PnP situations.
  3. Can Aaron Wheeler and Evan Boudreaux come in and be impact guys immediately in the front court? Vince Edwards had some up-and-down moments in his four years at Purdue, but he was ridiculously productive from day one and fans aren't going to appreciate what he brought until he's not there this fall.
 
For MSU, I think the 3 biggest questions are

1. How much can the Freshmen come in and impact? For us to be a good team next year, we need some production from our Freshman. Can Binghamton’s Brown have a major impact day 1? Is Aaron Henry gonna be ready. Can Foster Loyer defend at a college level?
2. Can Cash be a star for us. He shot great from 3 this last year so hopefully he can keep that up, but I’d like to see a little more versatility out of him. He’s a great passer. Hopefully he can improve on defense.
3. Can Josh Langford take that next step. He has a shot, but he just takes the dumbest looks ever. He’s got potential to be good, but so far he hasn’t. If he can be good, this team will be prettt solid next season.
 
When I say certain IU journalists are fanboys, it's only reaffirmed when I see articles posted on how IU is essentially above playing Notre Dame and Butler in the nonconference
 
Website called Inside the Hall is fanboy...Shocker.

I think the Crossraods is a sham that IU brings 65% of the gate and only gets paid 25%. IU fans gobble up Notre Dame’s allotment and gets paid the same amount. It’s always great to play Butler or Notre Dame, but with the conference schedule being 20 I’d rather get UK back in Indy split the gate 50-50. It makes more sense then The crossroads
 
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Website called Inside the Hall is fanboy...Shocker.

I think the Crossraods is a sham that IU brings 65% of the gate and only gets paid 25%. IU fans gobble up Notre Dame’s allotment and gets paid the same amount. It’s always great to play Butler or Notre Dame, but with the conference schedule being 20 I’d rather get UK back in Indy split the gate 50-50. It makes more sense then The crossroads
Calipari would never do that
 
then why hasn't it happened?

Because IU and UK were never going to play when it was Crean and Calipari. Neither coach would break their stance on home/away or neutral site.

Calipari and Archie are family friends and the likelihood of the series getting started back up are much better now. Won’t see it in 2019 but 2020 or 2021 are possible

I am personally a fan of the neutral site 50-50. One of my best game experiences growing up. UK isn’t going to get any recruiting advantages than they already have. I get why each coach wanted either home and away or neutral site. I don’t give a shit where the game is played I just want to see it played
 
Because IU and UK were never going to play when it was Crean and Calipari. Neither coach would break their stance on home/away or neutral site.

Calipari and Archie are family friends and the likelihood of the series getting started back up are much better now. Won’t see it in 2019 but 2020 or 2021 are possible

I am personally a fan of the neutral site 50-50. One of my best game experiences growing up. UK isn’t going to get any recruiting advantages than they already have. I get why each coach wanted either home and away or neutral site. I don’t give a shit where the game is played I just want to see it played
if it's really about the money and nonconference strength of schedule, just drop IPFW or IUPUI or whatever (which you are paying a ton to play at your place) and add Kentucky. No need to drop crossroads
 
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if it's really about the money and nonconference strength of schedule, just drop IPFW or IUPUI or whatever (which you are paying a ton to play at your place) and add Kentucky. No need to drop crossroads

Yeah I don’t disagree I honestly don’t know if it’s about money. The money is the reason I don’t like the Crossroads. I have enjoyed the Crossroads and it’s a great day to be downtown.
 
Saw Gillis to Purdue. Kid seems to be pretty good. Not sure if he is completely potentially healthy, but could have blown up in July. Good to lock him up now
Yeah big commit for Purdue as he has been arguably their top target much like V. Edwards was when he was recruited. Really glad to lock him up.
 
Saw Gillis to Purdue. Kid seems to be pretty good. Not sure if he is completely potentially healthy, but could have blown up in July. Good to lock him up now
Yeah, it sounds like he's struggled since coming back. Hopefully he's able to get some confidence back in that knee before his high school season. This will sound like a homer comment, but he's the type of recruit that I really won't get caught up in rankings because his style of play is the type of four-man who has succeeded at Purdue over the past decade. But yeah, not terribly upset that the injury may have hindered his exposure in the short-term and may have expedited the commitment process.

Brandon Newman is the next one I would like to get locked up, then Painter can turn his focus back to some of the elite guys we have a much lower probability of snagging. Even if he misses on guys like TJD and Brooks, if he can wrap up Newman and Malik Hall, I'll be pretty happy with this class.

Have you guys heard any kind of timetable for TJD or Brooks lately? Kind of surprised TJD is playing out July - or that it appears that way to this point.
 
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How so? The 7 point win at home really do it for you?

Seriously? Lol.

I’m saying I feel like IU fans thought that they were in control of the rivalry pre-Brohm. Since that hire, Purdue won 7 games (including a bowl win) and are recruiting at a level not seen since the glory years of the Tiller era. If I rooted for IU, I would be pretty bummed at how quickly Purdue turned things around after the worst 4-year period in their history. And I’d be hoping that Brohm leaves as soon as possible.

As far as the 7-point win, the game wasn’t that close IMO. Purdue was the better team by far that game.
 
Yeah, it sounds like he's struggled since coming back. Hopefully he's able to get some confidence back in that knee before his high school season. This will sound like a homer comment, but he's the type of recruit that I really won't get caught up in rankings because his style of play is the type of four-man who has succeeded at Purdue over the past decade. But yeah, not terribly upset that the injury may have hindered his exposure in the short-term and may have expedited the commitment process.

Brandon Newman is the next one I would like to get locked up, then Painter can turn his focus back to some of the elite guys we have a much lower probability of snagging. Even if he misses on guys like TJD and Brooks, if he can wrap up Newman and Malik Hall, I'll be pretty happy with this class.

Have you guys heard any kind of timetable for TJD or Brooks lately? Kind of surprised TJD is playing out July - or that it appears that way to this point.
That’s what I thought as well but I think I read in Brian Snow’s blurb about it that he had played well since returning from injury. Either way, great add IMO.
 
Yeah, it sounds like he's struggled since coming back. Hopefully he's able to get some confidence back in that knee before his high school season. This will sound like a homer comment, but he's the type of recruit that I really won't get caught up in rankings because his style of play is the type of four-man who has succeeded at Purdue over the past decade. But yeah, not terribly upset that the injury may have hindered his exposure in the short-term and may have expedited the commitment process.

Brandon Newman is the next one I would like to get locked up, then Painter can turn his focus back to some of the elite guys we have a much lower probability of snagging. Even if he misses on guys like TJD and Brooks, if he can wrap up Newman and Malik Hall, I'll be pretty happy with this class.

Have you guys heard any kind of timetable for TJD or Brooks lately? Kind of surprised TJD is playing out July - or that it appears that way to this point.

It’s going longer then expected with TJD but hearing it will be a surprise if it’s anywhere besides IU. Brooks is going to be a long haul

I do like Newman and he will get an offer when he visits next week. Not sure what that changes, but we will see then.
 
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Seriously? Lol.

I’m saying I feel like IU fans thought that they were in control of the rivalry pre-Brohm. Since that hire, Purdue won 7 games (including a bowl win) and are recruiting at a level not seen since the glory years of the Tiller era. If I rooted for IU, I would be pretty bummed at how quickly Purdue turned things around after the worst 4-year period in their history. And I’d be hoping that Brohm leaves as soon as possible.

As far as the 7-point win, the game wasn’t that close IMO. Purdue was the better team by far that game.

Of course but it's only because Hazzell was that bad, it's like me saying PU basketball fans said Oh shit after Mille's first year. It was promising and we got Romeo but nothing done that should scare Purdue fans other than there's a chance he's not dogshit. Good thing for us is he we know he won't be leaving for a better job.
 
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Purdue Fans vs. Indiana Fans Round 2!!!!!

Just what we were all waiting for.
I'm gonna pass. Same old thing. Purdue leads the all-time series...Blah, blah, blah.. Indiana fan responds with---a ton of those wins came some 60-70 years ago. Which in fairness, they did.
Anyways....IU has 5 titles. Purdue 0. Purdue fan responds with, " but none in 30 years".
Rinse and repeat.
It gets old. Fun sometimes. I guess. I just don' feel the need to argue with them. They know IU's the more respected and accomplished program. No need to remind them.
 
Theoretically speaking, I would say it's allowable if said program leads the all-time series against another program by 32 games and the other program has a 42% winning percentage in its history.
Who cares? Purdue -Indiana is not even close on a national level. You know this along with every other Purdue fan. Great you lead the all-time series. Yippee. I bet though you give that up to be viewed historically like Indiana is. Like I said, traditionally, it's not close. No reason to argue it.
 
I'm gonna pass. Same old thing.

Who cares? Purdue -Indiana is not even close on a national level. You know this along with every other Purdue fan. Great you lead the all-time series. Yippee. I bet though you give that up to be viewed historically like Indiana is. Like I said, traditionally, it's not close. No reason to argue it.
If this is you passing, I’d hate to see you go all out.
 
Who cares? Purdue -Indiana is not even close on a national level. You know this along with every other Purdue fan. Great you lead the all-time series. Yippee. I bet though you give that up to be viewed historically like Indiana is. Like I said, traditionally, it's not close. No reason to argue it.

Did you not realize this post was comparing IU football to Purdue football? Hence the 42% winning percentage comment.
 
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Seriously? Lol.

I’m saying I feel like IU fans thought that they were in control of the rivalry pre-Brohm. Since that hire, Purdue won 7 games (including a bowl win) and are recruiting at a level not seen since the glory years of the Tiller era. If I rooted for IU, I would be pretty bummed at how quickly Purdue turned things around after the worst 4-year period in their history. And I’d be hoping that Brohm leaves as soon as possible.

As far as the 7-point win, the game wasn’t that close IMO. Purdue was the better team by far that game.

You don't think the fact that PU gets slotted in the (vastly) easier Western division has anything to do with the reversal in fortunes? No OSU,MSU, or PSU? Exactly who in the B1G did PU beat?
 
Maryland had the 34th ranked schedule????? L O Fvcking L. I understand that the Towson game brings them down but that was a gauntlet.
Yeah and Texas ended up being pretty mediocre again but looks like a daunting name when you look at the schedule. But yeah looking at it Maryland definitely had it rough.
 
You don't think the fact that PU gets slotted in the (vastly) easier Western division has anything to do with the reversal in fortunes? No OSU,MSU, or PSU? Exactly who in the B1G did PU beat?

Sure it’s easier but it was still impressive. Purdue has the second hardest schedule this year FYI. The best win last year for Purdue was at Iowa.
 
To be fair, at least IU won't be hiring another coach in a year or two.

Is that supposed to be a knock on Purdue? Even if Brohm leaves, he’ll leave us in a much better position than we were when he took over. Sure it would suck to lose him but we least we’d be on solid ground as a program moving forward.

Is that a good thing IU won’t be hiring a new coach? I could turn that and say that they’re not in jeopardy of losing him since he wouldn’t be pursued by other schools.

And I could see Lovie being gone in a year or two if he doesn’t turn it around.
 
You say that now.

That’s all other fan bases have right now regarding Purdue. It’s well Brohm won’t stay long-term. If that’s all you (or anyone else) has on Purdue right now, things are pretty good.
 
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