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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

I’m jealous if you’re watching for first time. Great show. Check out The Wire sometime if you haven’t already. Another good one.

So coworker told him this has to be next after Breaking Bad. Really looking forward to it
 
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Just recently had someone try to tell me that they liked Breaking Bad for the first three seasons, but that things got boring in season four. I think I had a mini stroke from the rage blackout I had from hearing that.


Every time I start my annual rewatch of the series, I'm dumbfounded by just how much plot advancement happens in the first hour of that series. Just bonkers.


This times eleventy billion. Best show of all-time, IMO. You should check out Jonathan Abrams' oral history of the series if you haven't already.

Without giving away spoilers, I think it’s pretty safe to say there will be a lot more fantasy in the final 7 episodes.
 
This times eleventy billion. Best show of all-time, IMO. You should check out Jonathan Abrams' oral history of the series if you haven't already.

I've got the book. Have started it but need some time to finish it. Maybe this winter when I've got less going on.
 
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Something we can agree on.

26+ win seasons by Matt Painter in past 3 years: 3
26+ win seasons by IU in past 25 years: 3

Sweet 16 appearances by Matt Painter in past 10 years: 4
Sweet 16 appearances by IU in past 25 years: 5

Missed NCAA tournaments by Purdue under Painter: 3
Missed NCAA tournaments by Indiana in past 5 years: 3

What did you do Cardinal, post a link on your homeboard for the likes? That shit is weak.
 
That was me. I thought the homeboard people would like to see the comparison. I was right.

So we get to ask for your banning and when a plethora of Purdue homers rush over here during the season next year? Like we didn't have enough make an appearance during your great regular season run.
 
So we get to ask for your banning and when a plethora of Purdue homers rush over here during the season next year? Like we didn't have enough make an appearance during your great regular season run.
Nah, most of them are too busy waiting for our next football commit to bookmark this page.
 
Let’s take a look at things once you frame the data a bit differently, shall we? This time stretching back only a few more years than Cardinal suggested.

IU data last 30 Years:
Wins - 620
Losses - 358
Winning % - 63.4%
Avg. Wins - 20.7
Avg. Losses - 11.9
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.6
Final Fours - 2
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 9
Tourney Appearances - 22

Purdue data last 30 years:
Wins - 610
Losses - 366
Winning % - 62.5%
Avg. Wins - 20.3
Avg. Losses - 12.2
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.5
Final Fours - 0
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 10
Tourney Appearances - 21

A little more objective way to view the data.
 
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Let’s take a look at things once you frame the data a bit differently, shall we? This time stretching back only a few more years than Cardinal suggested.

IU data last 30 Years:
Wins - 620
Losses - 358
Winning % - 63.4%
Avg. Wins - 20.7
Avg. Losses - 11.9
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.6
Final Fours - 2
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 9
Tourney Appearances - 22

Purdue data last 30 years:
Wins - 610
Losses - 366
Winning % - 62.5%
Avg. Wins - 20.3
Avg. Losses - 12.2
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.5
Final Fours - 0
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 10
Tourney Appearances - 21

There is a little more objective way to view the data.
He was comparing from when Painter has been Purdue’s coach and gave IU 25 years lmao. That’s not skewing the data in Purdue’s favor.
 
Let’s take a look at things once you frame the data a bit differently, shall we? This time stretching back only a few more years than Cardinal suggested.

IU data last 30 Years:
Wins - 620
Losses - 358
Winning % - 63.4%
Avg. Wins - 20.7
Avg. Losses - 11.9
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.6
Final Fours - 2
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 9
Tourney Appearances - 22

Purdue data last 30 years:
Wins - 610
Losses - 366
Winning % - 62.5%
Avg. Wins - 20.3
Avg. Losses - 12.2
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.5
Final Fours - 0
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 10
Tourney Appearances - 21

A little more objective way to view the data.

Funny thing is Purdue fans talk shit about this stretch of IU basketball and how they are no longer relevant. What does that say about them?
 
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Funny thing is Purdue fans talk shit about this stretch of IU basketball and how they are no longer relevant. What does that say about them?
Exactly. This has been our worst stretch in program history. The data looks pretty equal of course except for those two Final Four appearances that IU has. LOL!
 
Exactly. This has been our worst stretch in program history. The data looks pretty equal of course except for those two Final Four appearances that IU has. LOL!

Interesting that Crean lost 18.4% of those 358 losses in just his first 3 years.
 
Interesting that Crean lost 18.4% of those 358 losses in just his first 3 years.
Yeah, maybe we should look at the data excluding Crean's years. I mean, Cardinal just randomly picked 26 wins and 25 years. Why not just pick and choose what we want to do to make the data look awesome for us.

Taking out Crean's first three years our winning percentage goes up to 67%.
 
Yeah, maybe we should look at the data excluding Crean's years. I mean, Cardinal just randomly picked 26 wins and 25 years. Why not just pick and choose what we want to do to make the data look awesome for us.

Taking out Crean's first three years because our program hired a known cheater so we could try to get back to relevancy failed miserably, because the cheater, well cheated, our winning percentage goes up to 67%.
FIFY
 

They hired a known cheater but it wasn't to try and make IU relevant. IU was four years removed from a final four.

I am still bitter that the cheating was legal a couple years after the fact. Regardless of that fact Kelvin was a scumbag in many other ways and not a good fit.
 
They hired a known cheater but it wasn't to try and make IU relevant. IU was four years removed from a final four.

I am still bitter that the cheating was legal a couple years after the fact. Regardless of that fact Kelvin was a scumbag in many other ways and not a good fit.
Yeah I know I’m just using hyperbole to get SNU more rustled to be honest. I’m still a little bitter one of those calls went to Hummel haha. But agree with what you said.
 
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Let’s take a look at things once you frame the data a bit differently, shall we? This time stretching back only a few more years than Cardinal suggested.

IU data last 30 Years:
Wins - 620
Losses - 358
Winning % - 63.4%
Avg. Wins - 20.7
Avg. Losses - 11.9
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.6
Final Fours - 2
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 9
Tourney Appearances - 22

Purdue data last 30 years:
Wins - 610
Losses - 366
Winning % - 62.5%
Avg. Wins - 20.3
Avg. Losses - 12.2
B10 Champs - 5
Avg. B10 Finish - 4.5
Final Fours - 0
Sweet Sixteens - 6
25 Win Seasons - 10
Tourney Appearances - 21

A little more objective way to view the data.
So, would you say that for the vast majority of the modern era, the programs have been on equal footing? I don't think Purdue fans really argued that Purdue is way ahead of Indiana, but I do know that argument is made the other way.

It's interesting to think, what if IU goes 0-3 in Elite 8 games instead of 2-1, and if Purdue goes 2-0 instead of 0-2 in their Elite 8 games during that stretch? Does it really change the overall success of the two programs in the past three decades?

The series in the past 30 years is Purdue - 29, Indiana - 30 if my math is correct.

(*Side note: you're missing two Sweet 16 appearances for Purdue, but I appreciate the research on this.)
 
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So, would you say that for the vast majority of the modern era, the programs have been on equal footing? I don't think Purdue fans really argued that Purdue is way ahead of Indiana, but I do know that argument is made the other way.

It's interesting to think, what if IU goes 0-3 in Elite 8 games instead of 2-1, and if Purdue goes 2-0 instead of 0-2 in their Elite 8 games during that stretch? Does it really change the overall success of the two programs in the past three decades?

The series in the past 30 years is Purdue - 29, Indiana - 30 if my math is correct.

(*Side note: you're missing two Sweet 16 appearances for Purdue, but I appreciate the research on this.)

Its all just

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So, would you say that for the vast majority of the modern era, the programs have been on equal footing? I don't think Purdue fans really argued that Purdue is way ahead of Indiana, but I do know that argument is made the other way.

It's interesting to think, what if IU goes 0-3 in Elite 8 games instead of 2-1, and if Purdue goes 2-0 instead of 0-2 in their Elite 8 games during that stretch? Does it really change the overall success of the two programs in the past three decades?

The series in the past 30 years is Purdue - 29, Indiana - 30 if my math is correct.

(*Side note: you're missing two Sweet 16 appearances for Purdue, but I appreciate the research on this.)
I used Wiki and did it quickly. Figured it was close enough to compare but likely had some minor errors. Lol.
 
So, would you say that for the vast majority of the modern era, the programs have been on equal footing? I don't think Purdue fans really argued that Purdue is way ahead of Indiana, but I do know that argument is made the other way.
Last 15 years, Purdue's won 65 percent of its games and IU's won 53.
 
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