***Official B1G In-Season Thread***
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Agree. No way should Garrett play again this year. You can kill someone swinging a helmet at his head.
amazing how many wll ride the back of the bugs who eat the coattails.
I'm going with the transformation of his eyeballs during that (Joe Rogan) interview on whether or not he smoked. I know this doesn't pertain to your video, but i was reading some other stuff where he didn't actually smoke.
That was the best game of the young year, no question. Fun, fun matchup. Couple thoughts:
-Every time I see Xavier Tillman I keep thinking he looks like a younger, more athletic Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
-Myles Powell gets buckets. Man! Dude can carry his team on his back much like Carsen Edwards.
-Romario Gill looks 7000 times better than the last time I saw him.
-Malik Hall just earned himself a spot in the starting lineup. Gotta like his ability to score from all over the court.
-Every time I see Xavier Tillman I keep thinking he looks like a younger, more athletic Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
-Myles Powell gets buckets. Man! Dude can carry his team on his back much like Carsen Edwards.
-Romario Gill looks 7000 times better than the last time I saw him.
-Malik Hall just earned himself a spot in the starting lineup. Gotta like his ability to score from all over the court.
They are in the 300’s in KenPom. I’m sure Teske will have a nice game
Not as good as Garza would though.
Agree about the Hall thing. Kithier is a good player but he needs to be our backup center, as we really don’t have one.
Yep, what Baker said is right on. It’s Inexcusable. He should be out for the year.
Willard must not have wanted Izzo to game plan for Powell. The initial reports seemed bad. I didn't even include the Michigan State/Seton Hall game in the Weekly Pick 'Em because I was certain he wasn't going to play. Here's the headline from CBS Sports...
Jay Bilas: Winston is unconscious!
Neil DeGrasse Tillman: Common misconception, Jay. As you can see, Cassius is clearly coherent, physically alert, and able to play the game of basketball.
I will say Tilman appears to struggle a bit inside against guys that are a lot taller and lengthier than him. If he was a legit 6’10 he would be in the NBA but I think he’s like 6’7 maybe 6’8. He’s a 4 in the NBA and needs better skill offensively away from the paint area to play at the next level imo
True, but MSU needs him to play the 5 this year. He's our biggest guy (other than string-Bingham)
no Teske HAS NOT WON MORE the correct term is HE HAS BEEN PART OF THOSE WINNING TEAMS and nothing more
you give way more credit than he deserves and by doing so you are slapping the other Michigan players in the face.
KenPom rankings as of 11-15-19:
1. MSU
8. OSU
9. Purdue
17. Maryland
27. Michigan
32. PSU
35. Indiana
46. Illinois
49. Wisconsin
52. Iowa
69. Rutgers
78. Minnesota
94. Northwestern
1. MSU
8. OSU
9. Purdue
17. Maryland
27. Michigan
32. PSU
35. Indiana
46. Illinois
49. Wisconsin
52. Iowa
69. Rutgers
78. Minnesota
94. Northwestern
The way i view the conference right now, a power rankings if you will:
MSU
OSU
Maryland
Michigan
Purdue
Indiana
PSU
Wisconin
Illinois
Iowa
Rutgers
Minnesota
Northwestern
Nebraska
MSU
OSU
Maryland
Michigan
Purdue
Indiana
PSU
Wisconin
Illinois
Iowa
Rutgers
Minnesota
Northwestern
Nebraska
Looks good. Preseason I thought the gap between MSU and the rest of the conference was huge (even without Langford) but now I think the gap is smaller.
If you and I were having this discussion in public and Zavier Simpson and Charles Matthews overheard it, I don't think they'd be offended. Odds are, they'd probably give me a high-five. At any rate, Teske is one of the best defenders in the country. It's not surprising that every publication I could find rated Teske higher. Every. Single. One. But sure, let's pretend that the whole world just hates Iowa.
Here are all of the preseason rankings I could find for the two players...
Teske
Three Man Weave: #34
NBC Sports- #65
CBS Sports- #66
Making The Madness- #69
SB Nation- #69
Athlon- #97
Garza
Making The Madness- #75
NBC Sports- #84
CBS Sports- Not Ranked
SB Nation- Not Ranked
Three Man Weave: Not Ranked
Athlon- Not Ranked
Once Langford was ruled out, I didn't believe there was some huge gap (granted UM and OSU look a bit better than I thought they would and you guys still dont have Wagner back).
MSU always had an issue with not having that true big body at center and who would pick up the slack scoring wise with Langford out. Langford was Winstons running mate. Both are lethal. But now MSU truly only has guard that is lethal right now. Whats nice to see for MSU is that our bench is better than I thought with Hall, Brown and Bingham. It will be scoring by committee to pick up the slack from Langford being out.
I would also agree that being a fan of another team in the B1G, after watching MSU play, they are a bit more vulnerable than what some thought pre season.
Really excited for the basketball season to start this weekend.
Nothing like playing the worst team in D1 according to KP. They lost to 240th Eastern Illinois 98-34. 34 points! Thats insane.
Not at you. Your fellow Michigan poster claiming that Adam Miller wanted to play for Michigan.
Not sure I’d take gowolverines at face value. I think he’s just having fun with it.
Msu is a back end top 10 team without Langford. With Langford I felt they certainly had merit to being number one, but not by the overwhelming margin in preseason.
Seton Hall is high in the polls, but only 19 on Kenpom and 32 on Torvik. That was a nice win last night regardless though.
Michigan is basically one (or two depending on Langford's health) high level players behind MSU. That is why I felt Michigan would be #1 in preseason and MSU at #2 back in late March. Then Michigan lost Poole and Iggy and Beilein and looked like a borderline top 25 team entering the year with Franz and Wilson being a wash.
I see a lot of washes between the M/MSU roster with the latter having a little bit better if you look one on one....
Winston over Simpson
Ahrens - Eli - even (Eli looks good so far)
Henry/Hall - Livers/Franz- even
Tillman slightly over Teske
Bingham/Kithier - Johns/Castleton - even
Loyer under DDJ
Now where MSU has a big advantage is in Rocket Watts over Nunez/Bajema. Not to mention Gabe Brown as well for a few minutes.
Michigan looks better IMO than where they were in preseason, probably a #20 team once Franz comes to play.
I expect the M-MSU game in Crisler to look similar to last night's game at Seton Hall if Langford is not available.
Seton Hall is high in the polls, but only 19 on Kenpom and 32 on Torvik. That was a nice win last night regardless though.
Michigan is basically one (or two depending on Langford's health) high level players behind MSU. That is why I felt Michigan would be #1 in preseason and MSU at #2 back in late March. Then Michigan lost Poole and Iggy and Beilein and looked like a borderline top 25 team entering the year with Franz and Wilson being a wash.
I see a lot of washes between the M/MSU roster with the latter having a little bit better if you look one on one....
Winston over Simpson
Ahrens - Eli - even (Eli looks good so far)
Henry/Hall - Livers/Franz- even
Tillman slightly over Teske
Bingham/Kithier - Johns/Castleton - even
Loyer under DDJ
Now where MSU has a big advantage is in Rocket Watts over Nunez/Bajema. Not to mention Gabe Brown as well for a few minutes.
Michigan looks better IMO than where they were in preseason, probably a #20 team once Franz comes to play.
I expect the M-MSU game in Crisler to look similar to last night's game at Seton Hall if Langford is not available.
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