So five years is all that matters??? Lol. Don’t be dumb.
Here’s a question. Would you trade Beilein’s record over the last five years for Painter’s? I know i would.
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Here’s a question. Would you trade Beilein’s record over the last five years for Painter’s? I know i would.
Rob didn't play in 3 games during the New Years break. IU went 2-1 in those games. Since he returned, he's played 27 minutes a game. If his injury was really that serious, Archie wouldn't have played him. 17 games to get over a concussion? Ok... Nojel had a stubbed toe so that really stunted his production this year.
Yeah I feel bad for him, because he is a very solid player. The kid has to learn to shoot if he wants even a sniff of the NBA. He improved the free throws but that needs to be extended. In today’s NBA the kid has zero chance currently
Lulz. Archie mentioned several times recently that Rob is just getting back into form. Again, context matters. Hell, even Underwood mentioned you could see that Rob was finally back to form. Plus, I think Archie knows better whether Rob could play or sit and whether he’s 100% or not. I know I sure as shit would take his comments over some man loving Purdue fanboy.
Painter needs more post season success. He’s a solid coach and he does well with what he has but Sweet 16’s aren’t going to get it done.
I’ll ask like I did everyone else. You’re making a team and picking a PG, who do you take?
No Purdue Homer will argue recruiting but X's and O's and developing talent is debateable. Just because you say it a hundred times doesn't make it true.
i don't even know what "getting back to form" even means honestly. Dude had 13 points in a loss @ NW. Had 13 & 7 in a loss to Iowa. i love these subjective cut offs
That's not your original point though. Stop moving the goalposts. Nojel was the better player this year. And it isn't close.
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It really isn’t debatable. Facts must hurt. There isn’t one aspect of coach I would take Painter over Izzo or Beilein. Let’s see, shall we...
Recruiting? Izzo/Beilein >>> Painter
Development of players? Izzo/Beilein >>> Painter
X’s and O’s? Izzo/Beilein >>> Painter
Both of my points are true. They’re pgs, one had better assist/turnover numbers with fewer minutes. As you said not even close.
I’ll agree to X and Os but not sure about the developing talent. He develops players for sure but depending on what the end game is supposed to be not sure it’s better than those two.
One played for a much better team and was an All-B1G defensive player. Rob didn't even sniff All-Freshman. Ouch.
In conference play, Nojel scores more, rebounds more, has more assists, and is a better defender on a clearly better team.
That depends on who else is on the roster. Probably Phinisee for his long term potential but for this season, probably Eastern unless the team surrounding him is offensively inefficient.
And you're deflecting. This year, Nojel was the better player for the better team. It is what it is.
To play a single game today? Nojel. And then I'm surrounding him with players that fit well with him and allow him to impact the game the ways he does.
"Better record" is kind of deceiving.
Painter last 5 years: 2 B1G titles, 0 BTT, 0 FF / E8, 4 NCAAT wins
Izzo last 5: 2 B1G titles, 2 BTT, 1 FF, 1 E8, 9 NCAAT wins
Beilein last 5: 1 B1G, 2 BTT, 1 FF, 1 E8, 1 S16, 10 NCAAT wins
I didn't say I would take Painter over them. I said it's debateable, you said it isn't. Stop moving.
Painter just shared the B1G title with an all American and a bunch of........I don't recall all the various unflattering terms you have used for the other players........let's just say players that weren't highly rated. That says something about X's and O's and development.
If a coach can't recruit worth a damn but wins lots of games, how does that happen without being a good game coach or talent developer? Luck?
lol you are THAT guy. You want a PG with fewer assists and more turnovers and can't shoot. Makes sense.
Nojel is the better player. It's not close at the moment. Stats don't quantify his impact on defense.
How is developing talent debatable? How many first round picks and draft picks for the three?
Also what seed do you think your going to get the tMB worst poster bracket?
Well, I run a motion offense so I don't need a PG with a high assist total. Purdue hasn't had a player average 5 assists in almost 30 years. But I do need a guy who is versatile enough to defend the opponent's best guard or forward.
Counting draft picks is a really flawed effort if trying to evaluate talent development. Guys like Miles Bridges and Jaren Jackson were being drafted whether they went to MSU or Drexel.
He's taken 4 3's lol. Not sure why you keep harping on that. He knows he's not a good outside shooter so he rarely shoots 3's. He was more efficient than RP on offense this year. Now that could change moving forward but based on what we saw this year alone, Eastern was the better overall player. Not sure how it can be debated honestly.
Using conference stats is cherry-picking? Lol. I think that's a pretty good period to use.
I've been told on more than one occasion on here that conference stats are much better to reference than overall stats. @hailtoyourvictor?
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