*Official* B1G In-Season Thread
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Then wouldn't that be a knock on a player? Hes a PG with fewer assists and more turnovers, how is that efficient?
It's not close if you only focus on those two areas. If you look at the overall picture, Eastern was better.
You're right. A 20 game sample isn't a good measuring stick.
Saying using conference stats only is cherry picking may be the dumbest argument I’ve seen in a long time.
In the non conference Phinissee against Marquette, Arkansas, Duke, Louisville, and Butler:
8 ppg 3.8 apg on 41% shooting.
Lol. Rebounds are still a main focus regardless of position.
Not nearly as laughable as you thinking 20 games is cherry picking.
And ignore a bigger sample size? yes thats the definition.
Not when one team is playing a sub-200 non-con schedule and the other is playing a top-75 non-con schedule.
(Rankings according to NET)
Took you all long enough. Should have known it would have been you. Will say conference games were when he was playing at less than 100%. I still firmly believe at this moment Phinisee is playing better than Nojel at running his team. Maybe they have different roles but being a PG Phinisee is doing more at this moment in time.
Tell you what. What has he shown that leads you to believe he’s actually (realistically) has a shot at getting drafted? Don’t be a homer.
You've been on your game these past few days. I was able to sniff out the Carsen tripping bait, but this one triggered me a bit. Game recognize game.
He sort of looks like Porzingis that’s about all that is realistic...without a major, and I do mean major improvement he has zero shot
You're the one that made the claim. Back it up and then I'll tell you why I think he has a shot.
He’s not on any draft boards at the moment(I don’t actually know this just guessing). Ok now your turn.
Really? Again, Painters record over that 5 years is better. Only difference is NCAA successes. Outside of the NCAA, I wouldn't trade them. Over that 5 year span, Painter has 2 B10 championships with a 75% win record. Beilein has no championships and a 61% win record over that time. Yet you'll take Beilein's record over Painters? This is 100% to do with the NCAA tournament. Why can't you just admit that?
Nojels last two stat lines:
15/5/3
12/10/5
Phinisees:
5/4/3
17/5/1
They’re both playing well.
Yes, I agree. That's his biggest crux, but SNU can't seem to come to grips with that.
I really don’t think it’s close this season TBH. Eastern has been the better player. You could argue that Robb is better for IU because of the lack of shooting, but he is at 27% on 3 attempts per game. For Purdue, I would much rather take Eastern at 0% on basically 0 attempts with drives to the hole instead. Plus, the defense isn’t even comparable.
Neither side would give. The other is obviously better than the other. In reality both have pretty similar numbers for the most part, different offenses produce different numbers, they're asked to do different things for their respective teams.
Why Are the last five years the only years that are relevant? Lol. Don’t be dumb. Everyone would take Beilein’s last five years over Painters.
I corrected that for you. Beilein hasn't won a Big title in the last 5 years. Only BTT.
He’s not to my knowledge on any draft boards. He hasn’t shown anything to date that leads me to believe he has any realistic shot. Now, he could improve, but as Kline said it would need to be major to even get a sniff of the NBA draft. But then again, you also believed he would be more of an impact this year than he has been.
I don't think its as drastic on the defensive side as it was earlier in the season. Nojel can guard more positions but he fouls more, is more aggressive. Phinisee has done well as of late. He's part of the turn around.
He played 3 years at MSU, he was developed by Izzo for 3 years. You think after 3 years at Drexel he’s getting drafted.
Dude... I gave you a 10 year. Hell, let's take the entire duration of coaching in conference.
Painter: 158-92 63.2%
Beilein: 126-92 57.8%
Izzo: 288-126 69.6
Again, you're biggest factor is that Painter hasn't had NCAA success, which I agree. But IN CONFERENCE, Painter has proven to be just as good as the other two. The fact that you keep trying to argue against that and point out NCAA successes is proof of what I've been trying to say.
Gotta side with the IU guys on this, I don’t see him as having a shot at the NBA.
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