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I don't care what role players you have injured, you shouldn't need to rely on Juwan Morgan to play 40 minutes to beat a shitty UC-Davis team. A good team should be able to use a cupcake like UC-Davis to rest starters and get young players experience.
There is a difference between contending (I think a handful of teams will 'contend' for the Big 10) and being on par with Michigan/MSU.
Like @MGC_07 said, I'd take Michigan+MSU over the field at this point.
I was at the Maryland game tonight and we destroyed a previously undefeated Marshall. I know Marshall is no top 25 team but I did not read one complimentary comment on the Terps in the entire thread. We have a solid starting five. Everything in this thread is about Michigan, Michigan State and Indiana and the rest of the Big Ten stinks. Maryland has been treated like Rutgers ever since we came into this mid-western conference. Sucks we have to play Virginia on Wednesday but I think every Big Ten team will have trouble winning at College Park this year. You'll see.
I would too. At this point. But it's November. Sorry if I'm not ready to concede the Big 10 to MSU and UM, in November.
Still one of the best gifs of all time haha.
So now you are back to trolling? That are you are ignorant of the players out. McRoberts starts. Green plays 25 minutes a game; basically a 6th starter. Davis would have been a starter. Far from "role players".
I agree IU shouldn't need 40 minutes from Morgan(to beat a UC Davis). But hey, shit happens. We were really bad. UC Davis played really well(early). Sometimes that happens.
How can you rest starters, when you don't have anyone to put in? We are down McRoberts, Green, Thompson and Hunter. And Davis left with an apparent injury. So who do you put in?
There is a difference between not saying they are on par with each other and conceding the conference.
Not really. We are extremely short handed. Those injuries are starting to take it's toll. I mean we didn't go from beating Marquette by 23, to suddenly being a long ways from competing. Just banged up. I mean apparently some of you don't understand the tolls that injuries have. And especially when it starts to linger.
We were a shit show tonight. It happens. Finished strong. Move onto the next one.
So you agree that IU shouldn’t need Morgan to play 40 minutes to beat UC-Davis but me saying that is trolling? Okay man.
See here it is, with you. Again. No, right now, IU isn't on par with MSU or UM. But I'm not concerned with right now. "Right now" is irrelevant. But if you want to celebrate being the best in the Big 10 in November--go ahead. I'd rather be so in March.
'into this mid-western conference'. Fak your east coast elitist garbage. I was about ready to concur on your first few sentences until you whipped out that verbiage.
Your football team should be playing Rutgers tomorrow and Penn State should be mixing with MSU.
This mid-western conference wouldn't miss a beat if you and Rutgers got kicked to the AAC.....
Lol that you got rustled he called it the midwestern conference. And yes the conference would miss a beat. $$$$$$$
Nah. Big Ten would lose viewers in New York and DC, but the overall schedule would result in more of those traditional matchups taking place which in turn would increase viewership in the midwest.
Certainly would lose the hundreds of eyeballs tuning in for lacrosse tho.
What traditional matchups dont take place with us in the conference? Gtfo you dipshit ***git
Then you probably should have omitted “is” when you typed “is/can be” if you don’t think Indiana “is” as good right now.
Maryland eats into the football schedule for other teams.
Let's see here. If I am a casual fan in Chicago, do I want to watch PSU versus Northwestern or am I now stuck with PSU versus Maryland. If I am forced with the latter, then I defer to rubbing one out and waiting for a more competitive game later. Unless I am one of the hundreds who actually gAF about lacrosse and extended rivalries.
Lol maybe instead of rubbing one out you should work on getting better game so you can find a guy to suck your dick and you wouldn’t be such a pussy ass bitch.
Also NW Penn State wouldn’t even qualify as an extended rivalry there is nothing between those schools so sorry that some in the area want to see Maryland PSU, thats an actual regional rivalry.
Again----Read better. Here, I'll help you with this one.
I said, "AT 100%, IU is/can be as good". Now----Is IU 100%, right now? Nope.
Again---Read better.
The team you saw today isn't the team I said I think will finish anywhere from 1st to 3rd. If we're strictly talking about the team on the court today....then of course not. I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand here? If you took 5 of the top 9 players (3 of the top 6 players) off of Michigan's team...how do you expect they would look? It's actually pretty impressive that they've done even this well considering the circumstances. It makes me even more confident in how I'm thinking when everyone gets back.
The only reason I'm still optimistic about how the season will play out, is because only 1 of those injuries have the potential of being season ending. So, assuming the information that's been put out is correct, and no one aggravates their injury....we should start to see most back on the court soon. I am concerned that since all of these players have been out for so long, if it will take them a few weeks to work back into the offense. I wouldn't be shocked if one game they look like easily a top 10 team to be followed up by them barely beating the sisters of the blind. Fortunately, its early enough in the year theres plenty of time to get as a team.
Lol I always laugh when you do your "shocked someone calls you out on trolling ". I actually usually enjoy a good troll, but it gets stupid when you start to do this.
Honest question, how do you think Michigan would perform if 3 of the top 6 players were out for an extended time to start a season? It's fine to troll here, it's what we all do, but don't troll on obvious stuff. I'm legitimately surprised that they've just lost 1 game. If you watched the game, it just seemed like mentally they just thought they already won this game before it started. It happens all the time when you're dealing with 18 and 19 year olds...even with great teams who aren't injured.
If all of their injured players were out for the year, I'd be thinking that they would finish middle of the pack. But you know what, I can only think of a handful of teams in the past 20 years that could have lost 3 of their top 6 or 7 and still finished top 3 in the big. God knows there isn't a single team this year who could do it! Since this team isn't one of the all time BIG greats...I have no issues with them struggling right now.
The hilarious part about his whole troll here, is he's the one who wants everyone to ignore how bad Michigan usually is during the first 3/4 of the season. His whole argument that CJB is a top 10 coach is that this part of the season doesn't matter. Since Michigan FINALLY isn't shitting the bed during the first half of the season....now all of a sudden this part of the year matters to him.
You've explained yourself perfectly at least 5 times now...just don't feed him.
Saying that you guys shouldn't need Morgan to play 40 of 40 minutes to beat a 1-5 UC-Davis team isn't trolling. It's discussing basketball and something that I think we should all be able to agree on. These are games where it's nice for the starters to get a good lead so the bench can get some run later in the game.
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You’re correct that we shouldn’t need Morgan to play 40 minutes and put up 30 points against a team like UC Davis. However, since we’re down so many players, it’s not surprising that we saw what we did last night. Archie even mentioned that there were several lineups that the team hasn’t practiced with.
I think IU fans are just happy to win and not see anyone else get injured.
I sympathize with IU’s injuries, I really do. I just find it hard to give IU a pass when they struggle to beat a 1-6 UC-Davis team at home when they are without Green (averaged 7 ppg on 36% shooting last season), Mcroberts (averaged 2.8 ppg last season on 43% shooting, but I get it he’s a glue guy), Race Thompson (has played 4 career minutes and was an unranked 3 star out of high school-just don’t know anything about him.) Jerome Hunter (I’m sure he’d be a hell of a bench player for you guys this season and would essentially be playing Damezi Anderson’s role of 17 mpg.)
But hey Painter doesn’t get a pass for having an injured Hummel/Haas in the sweet 16 for 3 different seasons but I’m sure we’ll all give you one for 4 role players in a home matchup against one of the worst teams in D-1.
But hey Painter doesn’t get a pass for having an injured Hummel/Haas in the sweet 16 for 3 different seasons but I’m sure we’ll all give you one for 4 role players in a home matchup against one of the worst teams in D-1.
It’s about depth, to me. Also, throwing out last year’s stats like that means anything doesn’t really help your argument.
Depth is important but against UC-Davis it is not. Also unless you want Archie to turn into Fran, 8-9 players is plenty for a rotation. That’s all I have to go off of so not sure why that doesn’t matter. Green has always been an ineffiencient scorer and Mcroberts is not just all of a sudden start taking shots away from Romeo/Morgan.
These are both perfect examples. McRoberts does so many of the little things outside of scoring to impact games. That’s why throwing out his scoring isn’t as important. Same for Green. Yes, he’s an inefficient scorer, but he’s solid defensively and also can create pretty well for others. All my point is, their scoring isn’t the primary or only thing they bring to the table.
Regardless, it wasn’t our best game but we found a way to win. It happens. Every single team in the B10 will have games like this. It’s not unusual.
Trust me Archie’s November 8-9 man rotation didn’t include a 70% DeRon Davis and true freshman Damezi Anderson.
It wasn’t a great week for Indiana basketball, but they still beat two shit teams by double digits.
If the turnovers don’t get cleaned up against Duke it will be a disaster. Everyone practiced on Wednesday and Thursday, so hopefully a couple players will be back on Tuesday.
Difference between still winning games by double digits and getting smoked by double digits.
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