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*Official* B1G In-Season Thread

Great recruiting leads to tournament success. Crean has never recruited at this level, and not close in the state of Indiana.

Let this sink in...

Archie took a team that lost 2 NBA starters and a 3rd professional player from a 10th place conference team, and helped them finish 6th the following year.
What? How soon you forget the team that had Cody Zeller/Yogi/Jeremy Hollowell/Oladipo/Jordan Hulls
 
What? How soon you forget the team that had Cody Zeller/Yogi/Jeremy Hollowell/Oladipo/Jordan Hulls

Hollowell is a major outlier in that group of players listed. Had a lot of talent it just never clicked for him at Indiana or Georgia State

Crean locked down the boarders until he was seen as a fraud, but he also missed on some top guys like Dawson, Teague and Harris.

Archie came in and got the first South Bend recruit since Nam and the first West Lafayette recruit since WWII. This year he will add Fort Wayne to the list.

He racked up the top in-state recruits last year and will get 3 of the top 4 this year including the top 2.
 
I’m still wrapping my head around Brohm having the 8th highest salary in the country and he’s 1 game over .500, most likely will be under .500 at the end of next year. Gives me memories of Indiana over paying Tom Crean for pulling in Cody Zeller.
 
Hollowell is a major outlier in that group of players listed. Had a lot of talent it just never clicked for him at Indiana or Georgia State

Crean locked down the boarders until he was seen as a fraud, but he also missed on some top guys like Dawson, Teague and Harris.

Archie came in and got the first South Bend recruit since Nam and the first West Lafayette recruit since WWII. This year he will add Fort Wayne to the list.

He racked up the top in-state recruits last year and will get 3 of the top 4 this year including the top 2.
My point was that he was still a top 50 player in-state when he committed. No one knows how these players will turn out. I was just pointing out that Crean got a lot of in-state guys at first too like Blackmon/Yogi/Zeller/Hollowell/Hulls/Elston, etc. I think Archie will do well, I really do so I’m bowing out of this pissing match to start drinking before some football.
 
Crean locked down the boarders until he was seen as a fraud, but he also missed on some top guys like Dawson, Teague and Harris.
Also Guy, Wilkes, Blueitt, Scruggs, Irvin, Grob3, Mcgary, and Lyles. He wasn't ever recruiting Brooks, or Watford, and wouldn't have landed Romeo or Davis.

Crean is one of the most overrated recruiters of all time. IU recruits itself, even Mike Davis was recruiting 5*s to IU.
 
That’s a giant leap perhaps you don’t want to recognize the similarities. Brohm is one game over .500 at Purdue and is top 10 in salary.

You realize nothing has come out about Brohm’s salary right? At this point, it’s only rumors that it’s a top 10 salary.
 
Also Guy, Wilkes, Blueitt, Scruggs, Irvin, Grob3, Mcgary, and Lyles.

Crean is one of the most overrated recruiters of all time. Even Mike Davis was recruiting 5*s to IU.

That list was just using through 2012 which was the roster Otte was pointing at. The in-state misses after the Syracuse game speak for themself
 
That list was just using through 2012 which was the roster Otte was pointing at. The in-state misses after the Syracuse game speak for themself
I was just highlighting your point, Crean was overrated as a recruiter. That's why we always had major weaknesses outside of a year or 2.
 
I’m still wrapping my head around Brohm having the 8th highest salary in the country and he’s 1 game over .500, most likely will be under .500 at the end of next year. Gives me memories of Indiana over paying Tom Crean for pulling in Cody Zeller.

Again, where are you coming up with these numbers? Nothing has been reported about Brohm’s new contract. Only rumors to this point.
 
What? How soon you forget the team that had Cody Zeller/Yogi/Jeremy Hollowell/Oladipo/Jordan Hulls
Oladipo wasnt an indiana player. Jordan hulls was a 3 star.

Btw, that team was the best team in the country that year, which is why they got the #1 overall seed.
 
Oladipo wasnt an indiana player. Jordan hulls was a 3 star.

Btw, that team was the best team in the country that year, which is why they got the #1 overall seed.
I know, you said he didn’t recruit at a high level or the state so I pointed out his recruits that were high level/in Indiana. Forgot to mention Watford and yes I know he was from Bama.
 

Even if the rumors are true and it is $6 million, who cares? It shows Purdue stepped up to the plate to keep a guy who brought their program back from the dead in only 2 years. A guy who has made Purdue nationally relevant. A guy who has helped attendance increase substantially in 2 short years. A guy who is on the verge of landing the best player in the state over the likes of OSU and PSU. The cost of losing him is far greater than overpaying him a few million extra per year. If IU had a coach do something similar, I’m guessing you’d hope they’d do what they could to keep him.
 
Even if the rumors are true and it is $6 million, who cares? It shows Purdue stepped up to the plate to keep a guy who brought their program back from the dead in only 2 years. A guy who has made Purdue nationally relevant. A guy who has helped attendance increase substantially in 2 short years. A guy who is on the verge of landing the best player in the state over the likes of OSU and PSU. The cost of losing him is far greater than overpaying him a few million extra per year. If IU had a coach do something similar, I’m guessing you’d hope they’d do what they could to keep him.

He’s the 8th highest paid coach in the country and he’s 1 game over .500.
 
Even if the rumors are true and it is $6 million, who cares? It shows Purdue stepped up to the plate to keep a guy who brought their program back from the dead in only 2 years. A guy who has made Purdue nationally relevant. A guy who has helped attendance increase substantially in 2 short years. A guy who is on the verge of landing the best player in the state over the likes of OSU and PSU. The cost of losing him is far greater than overpaying him a few million extra per year. If IU had a coach do something similar, I’m guessing you’d hope they’d do what they could to keep him.

13-12 record makes you nationally relevant?

Purdue became a national story because the guy might leave. Indiana flipped an OSU recruit does that make them relevant?
 
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I know, you said he didn’t recruit at a high level or the state so I pointed out his recruits that were high level/in Indiana. Forgot to mention Watford and yes I know he was from Bama.
No, I said he didnt recruit at THIS high of a level (meaning what Archie is doing now). He got some great players from Indiana, but also missed on several. He never had two 5* players in one class. So far Archie is 6 for 7 in players that he has offered from the state of Indiana. The only "miss" was Newman, and that offer was pulled after Franklin committed (you're welcome).
 
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Even if it’s true that it’s $6 million, who cares? The guy has resurrected the football program and the increased attendance can more than offset the increased payment to Brohm.
You guys always bitch about lack of recruiting budget or assistant pay, but the University has enough to make Brohm the 8th highest paid coach in the country?
 
13-12 record makes you nationally relevant?

Purdue became a national story because the guy might leave

Purdue was already a national story last year and got even more publicity after the whole Tennessee ordeal. Brohm mentioned it helped him in recruiting. And yeah it was because he might leave but he didn’t. That still got Purdue’s name out there quite a bit and showed Purdue’s commitment to their football program.
 
You guys always bitch about lack of recruiting budget or assistant pay, but the University has enough to make Brohm the 8th highest paid coach in the country?

When have I ever bitched about that? No idea what you’re talking about.
 
Purdue was already a national story last year and got even more publicity after the whole Tennessee ordeal. Brohm mentioned it helped him in recruiting. And yeah it was because he might leave but he didn’t. That still got Purdue’s name out there quite a bit and showed Purdue’s commitment to their football program.

And then he had to actually coach games...reminds me of Penny Hardaway.
 
Purdue was already a national story last year and got even more publicity after the whole Tennessee ordeal. Brohm mentioned it helped him in recruiting. And yeah it was because he might leave but he didn’t. That still got Purdue’s name out there quite a bit and showed Purdue’s commitment to their football program.

It’s a given I follow sports stuff pretty well but I didn’t even know Tennessee tried to get Brohm.
 
He’s the 8th highest paid coach in the country and he’s 1 game over .500.

You seem to be forgetting context here. He’s 13-12 with a roster mostly comprised of Darrell Hazell recruits. He’s won a bowl game and beaten 3 ranked teams. He’s on the verge of landing a top 25 recruiting class. All of this after the worst 4 year stretch in our history. If Brohm had done this at IU the last few years, you guys would have a street already named after him.
 
I’m still wrapping my head around Brohm having the 8th highest salary in the country and he’s 1 game over .500, most likely will be under .500 at the end of next year. Gives me memories of Indiana over paying Tom Crean for pulling in Cody Zeller.
That salary has been all speculation so far.

I’ve heard from a couple of insiders that his first year is more likely to be between $5-5.5 Million with it ramping each year.
 
You seem to be forgetting context here. He’s 13-12 with a roster mostly comprised of Darrell Hazell recruits. He’s won a bowl game and beaten 3 ranked teams. He’s on the verge of landing a top 25 recruiting class. All of this after the worst 4 year stretch in our history. If Brohm had done this at IU the last few years, you guys would have a street already named after him.

I understand a raise but at some point you get bid up and once you sit down and get over the fact that you “won” you realized what you’ve done.
 
I understand a raise but at some point you get bid up and once you sit down and get over the fact that you “won” you realized what you’ve done.

Purdue had to do whatever it took to keep Brohm. And they did.
 
That salary has been all speculation so far.

I’ve heard from a couple of insiders that his first year is more likely to be between $5-5.5 Million with it ramping each year.

That’s still top 10 in the entire country.
 
While we are talking about football, Michigan has some studs sitting out of their bowl game (Bush, Higdon, Gary). It's kind of annoying. I get why they do it, but it's still annoying as a fan..... especially when one is a team captain.
 
More than the entire Indiana football staff for 3 more wins and a less star recruiting average.

Program being desperate + Brohm agent = Pay day

So if IU was in the same situation, do you let him leave?

Desperate? If anything, they’re desperate because they’re tired of being mediocre and want more. They want more than just a mediocre bowl win and they made the investment proving that.

Even if our recruiting rankings are similar this year, Brohm has gotten 3 more wins with an inferior roster to IU. Once he starts to continue to stockpile more classes like this, I think the potential is significant.
 
So if IU was in the same situation, do you let him leave?

Desperate? If anything, they’re desperate because they’re tired of being mediocre and want more. They want more than just a mediocre bowl win and they made the investment proving that.

Even if our recruiting rankings are similar this year, Brohm has gotten 3 more wins with an inferior roster to IU. Once he starts to continue to stockpile more classes like this, I think the potential is significant.

Well they paid top 10 money to a guy who only has a mediocre bowl win.
 
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While we are talking about football, Michigan has some studs sitting out of their bowl game (Bush, Higdon, Gary). It's kind of annoying. I get why they do it, but it's still annoying as a fan..... especially when one is a team captain.

Tough situation and it sucks as a fan for sure.
 
So if IU was in the same situation, do you let him leave?

Desperate? If anything, they’re desperate because they’re tired of being mediocre and want more. They want more than just a mediocre bowl win and they made the investment proving that.

Even if our recruiting rankings are similar this year, Brohm has gotten 3 more wins with an inferior roster to IU. Once he starts to continue to stockpile more classes like this, I think the potential is significant.
For the price, I'd rather have TA than Brohm. More resources for the basketball program which is where all of the focus should be.
 
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