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My post had nothing to do with that argument...I took your post wrong tbh. I thought you were saying that their schedule was bad.
This is kind of misleading though. For instance, if you take 2 teams off of IUs schedule I'm guessing that their SOS would be a lot better than 112.
If you take two other teams off, I'm guesssing their SOS would be a lot worse than 112.
I agree that every team has bad opponents on their schedule. However, theres a drastic difference between the 340th team and the 220th team in regards to the SOS. Over the course of the whole season, it won't be nearly as drastic, but with just an 8 game sample size, it could be a large variance.
That's how stats work. Omitting a team is stupid.
Agreed but some teams have 300+ type cupcakes on their schedule that drag down the SOS. So it's not gonna be equal among all teams. IMO, it's a valid statement, to a point.
That's kind of my whole point....with only an 8 game sample size...any SOS being put out can be misleading. Only 8 games can allow for 1 or 2 outlier games to have a wide swing in the numbers.
I'm not saying to omit a team...I simply was using that example to show why with just an 8 game sample size...it can be misleading.
Yup. At the end of the season, it doesn't matter. But with only a handful of games, it can matter.
Exactly...with just 8 games it's too small of a sample size. Over the course of a whole season it won't allow for a drastic swing one way or another.
It is what it is though. It's not misleading. That's the schedule that's been played at this point.
It's not a predictive measure. It's a ranking of teams' schedules to date.
I mean, Michigan is elite, but if Florida State isn't "really good" then neither is ~6/7 of the b1g.
Which, atm, would be weird.
Kris, Iowa is like a bad batch of nose candy. Kinda high, then you come down fast and hard.
Fair. Based on how Archie has been scheduling, seems like this won't be an issue for us moving forward and as we move away from the Crean method.
Exactly. IU has Louisville and Butler as the next two games, so if we were take a look after SAturday the 15th that will be much better for IU.
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Yeah that’s what I was looking at before and it’s bogus. Look at Alabama States schedule and compare it to... say... Kansas. In what world is Alabama States schedule more difficult?
Alabama St. has played:
15
41
71
121
Unranked
Unranked
Kansas has played:
9
12
35
84
96
115
134
In what world is Alabama's States schedule more difficult?
KenPom excludes all non-D1 games from all of his metrics. So he only counts the four D1 opponents.
There is no way Alabama St.'s schedule has been more difficult any way you slice it.
SOS is flawed. Playing the #1 overall team and #100 overall team is no the same as playing the #50 and #51 overall team. Going 2-0 against #50 and #51 would be much easier than going 2-0 vs #1 and #100.
That's why RPI sucked so much. Teams could pad their RPI by playing not-that-shitty-but-still-shitty cupcakes.
You are also more likely to go 0-2 against #50 and #51 than you are going 0-2 against #1 and #100.
Let's go further.
Say a team is a top 25 team. Playing the #1 team and #300 team should end up 1-1. Playing the #150 and #151 team should be and easy 2-0.
This isn't break through logic, either. It's been a problem with using SOS/RPI for years.
Alabama St. and Stanford opponents:
2 Kansas
7 Northa Carolina
13 Wisconsin
15 Iowa St.
21 Florida
41 Iowa
71 South Dakota St.
122 Akron
191 Seattle
202 UNC Wilmington
206 Middle Tennessee
243 Portland St.
NR LaGrnage
NR Birmingham Southern
Anyone that can look at that and say that Alabama St.'s schedule has been more difficult than Stanfords probably also tries to pass German instagram models as their wife on forums.
2 Kansas
7 Northa Carolina
13 Wisconsin
15 Iowa St.
21 Florida
41 Iowa
71 South Dakota St.
122 Akron
191 Seattle
202 UNC Wilmington
206 Middle Tennessee
243 Portland St.
NR LaGrnage
NR Birmingham Southern
Anyone that can look at that and say that Alabama St.'s schedule has been more difficult than Stanfords probably also tries to pass German instagram models as their wife on forums.
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