Yes, Purdue lost to VaTech.
And yes, ball won't always bounce your way. Thought for sure a 3-point dagger was coming.
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And yes, ball won't always bounce your way. Thought for sure a 3-point dagger was coming.
Is margin of victory a thing with NET?
The defense is pretty damn efficient.
It is frustrating as hell but it is nice to see this team continue to win games they would have lost the past two years.
Possibly. But who cares. Rather its a 30 point win---or a 2-point win. Still counts. Still 2-0.
Exactly unless margin of victory play a factor with NET I do not give a shit about how much Indiana wins by and neither does anyone else come March.
Umm... yeah on paper you're correct. But, since games aren't played on paper eventually if they keep letting 14 and 11 point leads evaporate, its going to cost them games.
So in the long run, it's not the same.
Just looked it up and it is minimal. The win on the road against 65th ranked Penn State is much more important than by how much.
I'm just saying that margin of victory and efficiency go into the NET ranking.
Shit IU got its second Quad 1 win of the season tonight. That is all that matters
And in terms of that, Michigan's the best team in the country. You aren't going to hear any argument from me.
Never said it wasn't. I'm just saying that you want to take advantage of teams you can beat the breaks off of because efficiency and margin of victory are factors. Getting the win is obviously the most important thing.
It's not about just the points...its about the team consistently making mistakes that will eventually cause them to lose a game they could have won. So, if they keep allowing teams to come back from 14 and 11 points, its eventually going to cost them. If this was the only game its happened where they played bad, but still got the win, I'd agree. But, this is starting to become a pattern with this team and that pattern is the concern.
30 point wins would help Indiana's NET ranking and future NCAA seeding more than 2 point wins would is all I'm saying.
True...I guess. But a win helps better than a loss. IU wasn't winning by 30. Or even 20. SO that is irrelevant. WInning helps more than losing---I'll take it.
Borden said "30 point win or 2 point win is the same". I'm saying that they are not.
The scoring margin input into the equation is capped at 10 per game, but your point stands. They clearly have a lot of holes they need to address in the next month before the conference season starts back up.
Lol I'm really not understanding what the argument is here? You're looking at this as just a single game instance, it's not. If this was the only game then I would 100% agree with you. Strictly talking about this game I don't care if they win by 1 point or 20. But, if you look at the whole season as a whole.....these close games against bad teams is most definitely a concern.
I'm aware. I'm using the numbers Borden supplied (30 vs 2) and saying the aren't even.
I am not arguing with you on anything and the conversation I am having with Hail is about this win. Not Indiana's past performances
FWIW I don't see coaches too concerned about margin of victory. I've seen teams sit on the ball up 8 as time expired.
Not all that familiar with NET. But how much emphasis is put on margin of victory? And is it measured the same as beating a bad team by 30, opposed to beating a good team by 10?
Its capped at 10 points and not a bunch.
IU beat atop 75 team on the road that is what matters. Had IU won by 10 tonight the difference in how anyone looks at this game would be minimal.
It's 5th on the list and carries the least amount of weight.
So
Most important to least important
1. Level of opponent, location, and win/loss.
2. Efficiency
3. Winning %
4. Adjusted win percentage (seems similar to 1 and 3)
5. Margin of victory (seems similar to 2)
Don't know too much more than that. UMHoops forum was tearing it apart for double dipping on margin of victory / efficiency when those souldn't matter nearly as much as win/loss/opponent/location.
Exactly! I didn't realize that it was even a question about if a win is more important than by how much lol. On top of that, they haven't released how the NET is weighted , so once again, not sure what the point of looking it up was?
ALSO, if a team constantly let's bad teams hang around because of long stretches of bad play....chances are its going to eventually lead to a bad team getting lucky and you walk away with a loss.
I seriously don't understand how this is even a discussion.
But, since we don't know how each is weighted, it might be very little difference. Btw...how stupid is it that they wont release those numbers?It's 5th on the list and carries the least amount of weight.
So
Most important to least important
1. Level of opponent, location, and win/loss.
2. Efficiency
3. Winning %
4. Adjusted win percentage (seems similar to 1 and 3)
5. Margin of victory (seems similar to 2)
Don't know too much more than that. UMHoops forum was tearing it apart for double dipping on margin of victory / efficiency when those souldn't matter nearly as much as win/loss/opponent/location.
Honest question, but how do you know that it would have been minimal? As far as I understand, they haven't released the numbers on how each category is weighted. So, without that, you can't make a statement that its either minimal, or large.
But honestly, I'm not upset about this part of tonight...even if it was the #1thing on the list. Instead, the reason it bothers me is that it's now the 6th game where they've let a bad team hang around. Eventually that's going to be a loss.
The reason RP is playing so well right now is he does not HAVE to play all the minutes he was playing when Green was injured. And you guys seem to be completely missing the fact that JS (who I yell at as well) did a masterful job on Stevens defensively for most of this game...
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