He is not a bad defender, he is on a bad defensive team. Per 40 his blocks and steals are pretty good. He also is usually put on other teams top scorers. Unlike some on the defensive lists going against future insurance salesman.
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Who hasn't the committee not screwed ever (Besides Duke
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Murray isn't even close to his ceiling. Kid doesn't even try and dominates, even on a worse team where he doesn't have a 7' 8" guy taking double and triple teams all game...
It would be a quad 2 loss, I’d still be shocked if that caused a seed line drop.
As for Murray's defense, he does not have a true center, so ends up guarding outside his position and I am pretty sure he is told not to foul, because we need him on the floor
His defense will be just fine in the NBA. He is athletic as fvck.
His defense will be just fine in the NBA. He is athletic as fvck.
This is including the 330th ranked noncon. He’s objectively good at letting people score on him.
He guards spot up shooters predominately (48% of the time), and he allows them to shoot very well.
If you want to sit down and watch a game and go through his plays lets do it. He gets marked negatively because of his inferior teammates. Guys lose their man, Murray has to switch over to an open shooter and walla.
This is including the 330th ranked noncon. He’s objectively good at letting people score on him.
Yeah, he’s often a last line of defense when the play is already broken down.
Not saying he’s the best defender, but he certainly didn’t stand out as a guy to attack relentlessly either.
Who hasn't the committee not screwed ever (Besides Duke
If prior to the last two seasons you hadn't been in the tournament since 1991 you can't get screwed. We are putting it to the test this year. I guess that means we're screwed. F--k NET.
I grew up with and am very good friends with Brian Geltzeiler (hoopscritic.com, has a show on SiriusXM). We actually were talking about Murray today. He likes him a bunch.
One, the word you’re looking for is voila.
Two, the people that do these stats literally do exactly what you just said you want to do with me, and they get paid to do it. These aren’t stats looking at him guarding another guy’s man in rotation.
If it was me I’d give him a pass - seems like after the meltdown he chilled out on this board. Not up to me. Rivals needs the traffic anyway.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Not after we beat you in the tournament since you're gifting us our win back........
So in a roundabout way we end up right back where we started.
With Iowa > Illinois
Hey, we only really tripped against Maryland … and we’re their bitch, so…
Definitely a money over logic thing here. Illini/OSU BTT title last year was far and away the most viewed game of the season. IIRC, the “regular” viewership was like 4.2 million and it peaked over 6 million during OT. Big Ten is all about the $$$.
If they’re considering that, then Illinois is golden! We have had our whole team for like 25% of the year! 😂
For real, though, Kofi was gone for a couple losses, hope it’s considered selfishly.
Your best player missed 2.5 games, and you went 1-2 with a loss to Nebraska and barely scraped by Nicholls St. Imagine if your coach actually had to deal with the injury and sickness issues Illinois faced.
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Murray > Davis > Cock burn
P.S. Illinois fanbase = frontrunner fans, which is at the very least just a little pathetic
That gift was put on lay away.Not after we beat you in the tournament since you're gifting us our win back........
So in a roundabout way we end up right back where we started.
With Iowa > Illinois
Just hoping Illinois can beat Michigan
That kid is like if I was cool. Left handed, right eye dominant (notice how he holds the "shotgun" right handed, I shoot guns and pool right handed), but with sick celebration instincts.
You are who you surround yourself with. Fvck
I love the Big 10.
Time to shine my Bitches
Time to shine my Bitches
TOs are a big issue for us, especially live ball TOs, for a couple reasons. It takes away a shot by the most efficient offense in the country, and compounds that loss by giving the opponent a chance to score even more easily against a below average defense. The FT shooting is arguably just as problematic given how close all our losses have been, and how many points we've left at the line.
Defense is definitely a glaring issue, no doubt about that, I just think that if we take care of the ball, rebound, and shoot 80% on our FTs, we will outscore most teams. Elite eight and higher, they'll need to be much better on offense to win, or hope the opponent has a poor shooting night.
Shhh, that's been our secret the last 20+ years. Can’t let that get out.
Speaking of “tripped”, any information on the Wisconsin player that tripped over his own feet, took 5 steps, then fell down and hurt himself?? Hope he’s ok, tough way to go out, getting hurt while playing out of control.
Would be tempted on Rutgers if they didn’t have to go through Iowa.
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