***Official 2019 B1G Off Season thread***

[dragonhawk1855]

Cook is leaving whether he gets told he is being drafted or not. He looked to transfer last year, but decided to not sit out a year.

What do those teams have to do with the University of Iowa Klansmen? They have diverse rosters.

Cook was never looking to transfer. if he had got the feed back at the NBA Camp he was gone, in fact his plan coming in was to be a 1 n done player,

he came back because the NBA people told him to has he needed to work on some things to move into the 1st round.
so stop with your BULL SHIT about what Cook was going to do. kinda like how you were saying that Iowa had/has no chance with Foster, which has been debunked as 247 with 5 crystal balls going to Iowa with the 5th showing him to Kentucky till hw flipped to Iowa.

Corey Evans of Rivals has him going to Iowa in their Future Cast. Fran's roster is made up of these
Jordan from Iowa
Connor from Iowa
Patrick from Iowa
Kriener from Iowa
Pemsl from Iowa
Wieskamp from Iowa

Moss from Chicago
Toussaint from NY
Nunge from Indiana
Garza from DC
Fredrick from Cinncinnati by way of Kentucky

that makes 6 players from Iowa and Iowa is a low black population state,

recruiting start at home then spreads out from there.

tell me again how Illinois did with the mostly black roster.

 

[B1G_Fan]

We’re on Rivals so I’m citing Rivals rankings. Went from unranked to as high as 75th in the country after his great shooting display last summer.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/purdue-lands-four-star-shooting-guard-brandon-newman

Do we wanna make a charity bet on what freshman shoots better from 3 this year? I’ll take Newman you take Franklin.

Do you not agree that 247 composite rankings are the most accurate rankings?

No I dont want your bet. Newman figures to play a much bigger role than Franklin in the coming season.

It doesn't change the fact that Franklin shot better as a senior than Newman did.

 

[bMORE607]

Cook was never looking to transfer. if he had got the feed back at the NBA Camp he was gone, in fact his plan coming in was to be a 1 n done player,

he came back because the NBA people told him to has he needed to work on some things to move into the 1st round.
so stop with your BULL SHIT about what Cook was going to do. kinda like how you were saying that Iowa had/has no chance with Foster, which has been debunked as 247 with 5 crystal balls going to Iowa with the 5th showing him to Kentucky till hw flipped to Iowa.

Corey Evans of Rivals has him going to Iowa in their Future Cast. Fran's roster is made up of these
Jordan from Iowa
Connor from Iowa
Patrick from Iowa
Kriener from Iowa
Pemsl from Iowa
Wieskamp from Iowa

Moss from Chicago
Toussaint from NY
Nunge from Indiana
Garza from DC
Fredrick from Cinncinnati by way of Kentucky

that makes 6 players from Iowa and Iowa is a low black population state,

recruiting start at home then spreads out from there.

tell me again how Illinois did with the mostly black roster.

A lot of schools fighting for that Iowa talent. Laughing

 

[joe for prez]

Not triggered at all. I just think he's a dumbass that spouts off here and constantly gets called out on his idiotic posts.

I'd ask the same to you about me. You only post here when it's about me. Kinda weird.

Rent free lol

 

[B-Westy]

Do you not agree that 247 composite rankings are the most accurate rankings?

No I dont want your bet. Newman figures to play a much bigger role than Franklin in the coming season.

It doesn't change the fact that Franklin shot better as a senior than Newman did.

Ok. Then Newman is still 60 spots ahead of Franklin. Newman is still considered one of the best shooters in his class. He had an impressive sustained shooting display last summer in the AAU games he played. Why Rivals gave him a nice bump. I’ll take Newman over Franklin in regards to shooting for sure.

 

[SNU0821]

We’re on Rivals so I’m citing Rivals rankings. Went from unranked to as high as 75th in the country after his great shooting display last summer.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/purdue-lands-four-star-shooting-guard-brandon-newman

Do we wanna make a charity bet on what freshman shoots better from 3 this year? I’ll take Newman you take Franklin.

What’s really funny is most people here agreed they would rather have Newman but would be completely happy with Franklin, too. Now Purdue fans are acting like there is some huge difference between the two players. I actually think they’re pretty comparable.

But, if Newman was a much better shooter, why didn’t he shoot a higher percentage against an easier schedule than Franklin? Lol. Also, Franklin battled an injury the summer before his senior year. Then he came back and shot a better percentage than Newman his senior year. How could that be???

 

[dragonhawk1855]

We’re on Rivals so I’m citing Rivals rankings. Went from unranked to as high as 75th in the country after his great shooting display last summer.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/purdue-lands-four-star-shooting-guard-brandon-newman

Do we wanna make a charity bet on what freshman shoots better from 3 this year? I’ll take Newman you take Franklin.

the problem with shooting 3's in HS vs shooting from 3's in college is the defenses that they will face at each level, at the college level players are bigger and better at all position. in HS teams will have 1 maybe 2 at most D1 BB prospects, in college they are all D1 players.

the really good shooters will stand out AFTER they adjust to the speed at the college level.

 

[SNU0821]

Ok. Then Newman is still 60 spots ahead of Franklin. Newman is still considered one of the best shooters in his class. He had an impressive sustained shooting display last summer in the AAU games he played. Why Rivals gave him a nice bump. I’ll take Newman over Franklin in regards to shooting for sure.

Hahahahahahhahahah

 

[klize17]

What’s really funny is most people here agreed they would rather have Newman but would be completely happy with Franklin, too. Now Purdue fans are acting like there is some huge difference between the two players. I actually think they’re pretty comparable.

But, if Newman was a much better shooter, why didn’t he shoot a higher percentage against an easier schedule than Franklin? Lol. Also, Franklin battled an injury the summer before his senior year. Then he came back and shot a better percentage than Newman his senior year. How could that be???

I was in the Newman camp for sure, but seeing how Franklin has and continues to improve I am not mad with the get. He is exactly the type of player Archie needs to continue to recruit. Too bad they didn't want to play together otherwise they would both be at IU.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Ok. Then Newman is still 60 spots ahead of Franklin. Newman is still considered one of the best shooters in his class. He had an impressive sustained shooting display last summer in the AAU games he played. Why Rivals gave him a nice bump. I’ll take Newman over Franklin in regards to shooting for sure.

Can you post an article (not by a Purdue writer) that suggests Newman is one of the best shooters in the entire 2019 class?

I never suggested Franklin was (or should be) highly rated. I was responding to you pimping Newman. They are very similar players. That's the reason IU was happy to take whoever committed first between them.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Do you not agree that 247 composite rankings are the most accurate rankings?

No I dont want your bet. Newman figures to play a much bigger role than Franklin in the coming season.

It doesn't change the fact that Franklin shot better as a senior than Newman did.

no their composites are not the most accurate, to many outside factors. 2 sites can have a high rating then one site can play a major factor in the composite rating.

for example 1 site grades a kid a 2* but the other 2 grades him a 4*, does that mean the other 2 sites are wrong?

 

[Toast.]

Can you post an article (not by a Purdue writer) that suggests Newman is one of the best shooters in the entire 2019 class?

I never suggested Franklin was (or should be) highly rated. I was responding to you pimping Newman. They are very similar players. That's the reason IU was happy to take whoever committed first between them.

Pretty much everything I have seen and read has Newman as the more athletic shooter, Franklin as the better playmaker and slasher.

 

[B1G_Fan]

no their composites are not the most accurate, to many outside factors. 2 sites can have a high rating then one site can play a major factor in the composite rating.

for example 1 site grades a kid a 2* but the other 2 grades him a 4*, does that mean the other 2 sites are wrong?

That's called an average.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Pretty much everything I have seen and read has Newman as the more athletic shooter, Franklin as the better playmaker and slasher.

I agree that was the thought coming into the season. Then Franklin went out and shot 40% from 3 while playing the 10th hardest schedule in the state (for reference Valpo's schedule ranked 57th).

 

[SNU0821]

Pretty much everything I have seen and read has Newman as the more athletic shooter, Franklin as the better playmaker and slasher.

I agree with this. I think they’re both good four players.

 

[B-Westy]

Can you post an article (not by a Purdue writer) that suggests Newman is one of the best shooters in the entire 2019 class?

I never suggested Franklin was (or should be) highly rated. I was responding to you pimping Newman. They are very similar players. That's the reason IU was happy to take whoever committed first between them.

Article I linked was written by @Eric Bossi.

I’ll walk back the “entire 2019 class”. But Midwest absolutely.

And as @Corey Evans states, “one of the best two-way guards in the 2019 class.”

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...s-future-looks-bright-after-a-sizzling-summer

 

[joe for prez]

I never leave at halftime unless the games over. I go back in if there’s a comeback. Plus, in a couple of weeks it is going to be announced they’re selling bears (to my knowledge)

Hell I’ll go to that goodeshit stadium if I can have a bear!

 

[B1G_Fan]

Article I linked was written by @Eric Bossi.

I’ll walk by the “entire 2019 class”. But Midwest absolutely.

And as @Corey Evans states, “one of the best two-way guards in the 2019 class.”

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...s-future-looks-bright-after-a-sizzling-summer

I think you forgot to link the Bossi article.

We are talking about him being "one of the best shooters in the 2019 class". The Evans article doesnt mention anything like that.

 

[SNU0821]

Article I linked was written by @Eric Bossi.

I’ll walk back the “entire 2019 class”. But Midwest absolutely.

And as @Corey Evans states, “one of the best two-way guards in the 2019 class.”

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...s-future-looks-bright-after-a-sizzling-summer

Hahahahahahahaha

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Cook is leaving whether he gets told he is being drafted or not. He looked to transfer last year, but decided to not sit out a year.

What do those teams have to do with the University of Iowa Klansmen? They have diverse rosters.

provide documented proof that cook was looking to transfer, otherwise you are a total moron,

and I am tired of your racism laced posts. since when did it become illegal to sign these type of players just because they are white
Jordan Iowa's Mr. BB and Gatorade POY 4* by ESPN
Connor 4* top 100 by ESPN AND 4* by Rivals
Wieskamp 4* top 100 ESPN and #42 overall 4* by Rivals 2 time Gatorade POY and Iowa's Mr. BB the only other Iowan to do that was Barnes who went to UNCheats long before Fran became Iowa's coach.
Patrick 4* top 100 ESPN and 4* top 100 by Rivals
Garza 4* top 100 ESPN and 4* by Rivals
Nunge 2 time class 4A largest class in Indiana 1st Team All State and runner up in the voting for Mr. Indiana BB
Fredrick led his his team to the Kentucky single class state Championship, Kentucky's Gatorade POY Shooting 60% from the field and 48.4% from 3 scoring 900 points his SR year. he also a very good lost art of driving and pop from 10-12', Something players have either forgotten, never learned or just refuse to do.

yeah I can see why Fran had no business recruiting these white players.

 

[Toast.]

I agree that was the thought coming into the season. Then Franklin went out and shot 40% from 3 while playing the 10th hardest schedule in the state (for reference Valpo's schedule ranked 57th).

After some digging, here's what I found:

• Franklin: shot 39.3% from 3 -- 44 makes in 24 games -- while shooting 74% from the line.
• Newman shot 38.6% from 3 -- 60 makes in 27 games -- while shooting 85.4% from the line.

I'd still wager that Newman is the better college shooter as he's been known as a dangerous shooter for a couple years and has shown it over multiple stretches (lit it up from 3 in AAU last summer), but it's good to see that Franklin has expanded his game.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

That's called an average.

and a average can be skewed one way or the other. this was makes it so flawed.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Newman is an elite shooter with tons of athleticism and potential. Franklin is terone johnson lite.

 

[klize17]

Newman is an elite shooter with tons of athleticism and potential. Franklin is terone johnson lite.

 

[boiler1987]

I was in the Newman camp for sure, but seeing how Franklin has and continues to improve I am not mad with the get. He is exactly the type of player Archie needs to continue to recruit. Too bad they didn't want to play together otherwise they would both be at IU.

Or maybe they’d both be at Purdue lol

 

[B-Westy]

I think you forgot to link the Bossi article.

We are talking about him being "one of the best shooters in the 2019 class". The Evans article doesnt mention anything like that.

The first article I linked was written by Bossi not by a Purdue writer.

And I just conceded the “best shooters in the 2019 class” take. Definitely one of the best shooters in the Midwest. Read please.

 

[B-Westy]

After some digging, here's what I found:

• Franklin: shot 39.3% from 3 -- 44 makes in 24 games -- while shooting 74% from the line.
• Newman shot 38.6% from 3 -- 60 makes in 27 games -- while shooting 85.4% from the line.

I'd still wager that Newman is the better college shooter as he's been known as a dangerous shooter for a couple years and has shown it over multiple stretches (lit it up from 3 in AAU last summer), but it's good to see that Franklin has expanded his game.

Ahh yeah. Thanks for digging that up. Newman shoots .7 worse on more attempts. Paints a better picture for sure.

 

[jwardelt]

IU/PeeU shitposting, Gil rambling on racist tones, ahhh the off-season.

 

[B1G_Fan]

The first article I linked was written by Bossi not by a Purdue writer.

And I just conceded the “best shooters in the 2019 class” take. Definitely one of the best shooters in the Midwest. Read please.

Again, I think you forgot to link the Bossi article. Your post contained 1 article and it was written by Evans.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Ahh yeah. Thanks for digging that up. Newman shoots .7 worse on more attempts. Paints a better picture for sure.

Don't forgot to include that Newman played a far worse schedule.

 

[klize17]

Or maybe they’d both be at Purdue lol

Franklin committed to IU after his Purdue official
Sooooooo

 

[B-Westy]

Again, I think you forgot to link the Bossi article. Your post contained 1 article and it was written by Evans.

I posted this like 10 minutes earlier in one of my original posts. You seem to think it was written by a Purdue writer. No.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/purdue-lands-four-star-shooting-guard-brandon-newman

 

[B-Westy]

Franklin committed to IU after his Purdue official
Sooooooo

B/c he knew Newman was coming to Purdue. Duh.

 

[klize17]

B/c he knew Newman was coming to Purdue. Duh.

Yeah I heard Painter pulled the offer on the official since he knew about Newman

 

[B-Westy]

Yeah I heard Painter pulled the offer on the official since he knew about Newman

Yup & made him & his family sleep on the street.

 

[SNU0821]

Ahh yeah. Thanks for digging that up. Newman shoots .7 worse on more attempts. Paints a better picture for sure.

So then IU’s returning players paints a better picture considering they have a higher percentage on more makes? Be consistent please, Blaire.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Franklin committed to IU after his Purdue official
Sooooooo

He knew that newman was committing. Newman already gave us a silent verbal. Inside sources told me franklin preferred purdue but decided to settle for iu.

 

[klize17]

He knew that newman was committing. Newman already gave us a silent verbal. Inside sources told me franklin preferred purdue but decided to settle for iu.

 

[Toast.]

So then IU’s returning players paints a better picture considering they have a higher percentage on more makes? Be consistent please, Blaire.

Volume always matters when looking at 3 pt shooting. It's why I said IU returns a bit better 3 pt shooting. Percentages and volume was also why I was so confident that Purdue would be a good shooting team this past season, and that IU would be a bad one.

I think this strength of schedule stuff can be a bit overblown. Playing a poor SOS, but being the lone guy on the team that teams key on, isn't necessarily a situation that yields easier looks than playing a tough SOS. Also, if we're incorporating SOS, we need to do that based on the fact that Purdue played a harder schedule than IU last season.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

It will be considered a massive success if iu can make the tournament any of the next 4 years with franklin. I could see it possibly happening.