***Official 2019 B1G Off Season thread***

[bMORE607]

From the homeboard

Worth noting, Fayetteville State is a pretty solid D2 program with five D1 transfers on their roster, including one kid who started on an NCAA tourney team. They also start a 7-foot center. They aren't the pushover that, say, a D3 team would be.

Spoiler

Game still meant absolutely nothing, was a glorified scrimmage, and will have no bearing on the regular season.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

“The game was played at a 77-possession pace, faster than any game the Wolverines played last season. Exhibition caveats apply, but Michigan only played two games faster than 77 possessions in the KenPom era (Duke 2001, Minnesota 2004).”

uptempo basketball has arrived in AA

Some weird lineups tonight. Really hope Wagner is ready soon.

 

[pig1960]

What I saw in Purdue’s win over D2 SIU...
Potential to be above average 3 point shooting team. They weren’t against D1 defense but the willingness to shoot was good to see. Purdue is going to let it fly again this year and imo Purdue needs to shoot a lot of threes to maximize its chances. Wheeler, Procter, Hunter, Stefanovic, Thompson will shoot 3 regularly and Haarms and Boudreaux will take a few as well. Feeding the post was a problem and that’s against sub par defense - I’m kind of leery on that aspect as I’ve seen previous Purdue teams lose any flow staring at the post. Nothing else really stood out given the level of competition. Nojel sat out with foot issue which is worrisome. It was a relief to see a “real” game though.

 

[IUfanBorden]

What I saw in Purdue’s win over D2 SIU...
Potential to be above average 3 point shooting team. They weren’t against D1 defense but the willingness to shoot was good to see. Purdue is going to let it fly again this year and imo Purdue needs to shoot a lot of threes to maximize its chances. Wheeler, Procter, Hunter, Stefanovic, Thompson will shoot 3 regularly and Haarms and Boudreaux will take a few as well. Feeding the post was a problem and that’s against sub par defense - I’m kind of leery on that aspect as I’ve seen previous Purdue teams lose any flow staring at the post. Nothing else really stood out given the level of competition. Nojel sat out with foot issue which is worrisome. It was a relief to see a “real” game though.

Hey, bro----It's "USI". Get it right. BTW, I went to school there..
Pretty good showing and win, as far as exhibitions go. USI has a strong program. Plays in a very good conference.

 

[pig1960]

Hey, bro----It's "USI". Get it right. BTW, I went to school there..
Pretty good showing and win, as far as exhibitions go. USI has a strong program. Plays in a very good conference.

Dammit! Shoulda went with Southern Indiana. I was gonna mention that USI was a pretty good program but you know how that story ends.

 

[boilerzz]

Dammit! Shoulda went with Southern Indiana. I was gonna mention that USI was a pretty good program but you know how that story ends.

Yep, don’t even bother to mention that they took Evansville to OT the other night or someone will suggest you are saying Purdue beat a juggernaut!

I didn’t even see the game as we were celebrating my wife’s birthday. I saw we were up 84-40 before putting Walkons in and assume we played a clearly overmatched team without Nojel Eastern.

So happy the real games are starting.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Dammit! Shoulda went with Southern Indiana. I was gonna mention that USI was a pretty good program but you know how that story ends.

Yep. But its true. They are a very good D2 program. Not some walk-over. I mean sure--A Purdue should handle them, but....Its a decent measuring stick. Much more so than say beating up on Marian, or someone like that. They(USI) have some dudes that can play.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Yep, don’t even bother to mention that they took Evansville to OT the other night or someone will suggest you are saying Purdue beat a juggernaut!

I didn’t even see the game as we were celebrating my wife’s birthday. I saw we were up 84-40 before putting Walkons in and assume we played a clearly overmatched team without Nojel Eastern.

So happy the real games are starting.

USI is a good measuring stick. No they ain't a Big 10 team...Nor any P5 type of team. But nonetheless, a good program that can provide a solid ,"where are we right now" moment.

 

[VulvHa]

Yep, don’t even bother to mention that they took Evansville to OT the other night or someone will suggest you are saying Purdue beat a juggernaut!

I didn’t even see the game as we were celebrating my wife’s birthday. I saw we were up 84-40 before putting Walkons in and assume we played a clearly overmatched team without Nojel Eastern.

So happy the real games are starting.

Biggest pro was definitely the ball movement and offensive flow. Biggest con was what was mentioned before about the passing into the post. Haarms and Williams are going to be a monster duo at the 5. We know what Eastern can do, but hopefully, Wheeler, Proctor, Sasha, and Hunter can consistently bring it.

 

[SNU0821]

What I saw in Purdue’s win over D2 SIU...
Potential to be above average 3 point shooting team. They weren’t against D1 defense but the willingness to shoot was good to see. Purdue is going to let it fly again this year and imo Purdue needs to shoot a lot of threes to maximize its chances. Wheeler, Procter, Hunter, Stefanovic, Thompson will shoot 3 regularly and Haarms and Boudreaux will take a few as well. Feeding the post was a problem and that’s against sub par defense - I’m kind of leery on that aspect as I’ve seen previous Purdue teams lose any flow staring at the post. Nothing else really stood out given the level of competition. Nojel sat out with foot issue which is worrisome. It was a relief to see a “real” game though.

Honest question, legitimately not trolling, what makes you think they have potential to be an above average 3pt shooting team? The two games we have stats on paint a picture of a very up and down performance. Given you think high volume 3pt shooting is necessary, what percentage are you expecting?

 

[IUfanBorden]

Biggest pro was definitely the ball movement and offensive flow. Biggest con was what was mentioned before about the passing into the post. Haarms and Williams are going to be a monster duo at the 5. We know what Eastern can do, but hopefully, Wheeler, Proctor, Sasha, and Hunter can consistently bring it.

IMO, he will be the "X" factor, so to speak. He has to be able to shoot. At least be able to make teams respect such. I haven't seen enough to really know---but it does seem as is shooting might be a concern with this team? I know Sasha has shown some moments. But obviously there's no one like Cline or Edwards?
But then again, I'm done doubting Painter. Look, I don't like Purdue. But it is what it is. Dude has shown,at least of late, that he can reload.

 

[boilerzz]

Honest question, legitimately not trolling, what makes you think they have potential to be an above average 3pt shooting team? The two games we have stats on paint a picture of a very up and down performance. Given you think high volume 3pt shooting is necessary, what percentage are you expecting?

When Purdue had the dark years, Painter changed his recruiting philosophy to favor skill over athleticism. He wanted to at least recruit one high Level 3P shooter every year. The results of those efforts have born 3P shooting ranks nationally of 73, 7, 2 and 44.

Between that and the offense Purdue runs, I’ll be stunned if we aren’t at least above average.

I see enough guys with potential to be good shooters to be confident 8n saying that. I do think the percentage will be held down by giving some level of freedom to Eastern, Williams and Haarms. I’d be surprised if any of them are above 35% and a I’d guess they shoot at least 75 between them.

 

[SNU0821]

When Purdue had the dark years, Painter changed his recruiting philosophy to favor skill over athleticism. He wanted to at least recruit one high Level 3P shooter every year. The results of those efforts have born 3P shooting ranks nationally of 73, 7, 2 and 44.

Between that and the offense Purdue runs, I’ll be stunned if we aren’t at least above average.

I see enough guys with potential to be good shooters to be confident 8n saying that. I do think the percentage will be held down by giving some level of freedom to Eastern, Williams and Haarms. I’d be surprised if any of the, are above 35% and a I’d guess they shoot at least 75 between them.

Thanks. What % are you expecting for a team?

 

[IUfanBorden]

I see enough guys with potential to be good shooters to be confident 8n saying that. I do think the percentage will be held down by giving some level of freedom to Eastern, Williams and Haarms. I’d be surprised if any of the, are above 35% and a I’d guess they shoot at least 75 between them.

Whoa....Those three took a combined 32 three's last year. They made 8. Seven of those came from Haarms. Eastern took 4....Williams 3....Haarms 25. You expect 40+ more attempts---And 35%?

okay.

 

[SNU0821]

When Purdue had the dark years, Painter changed his recruiting philosophy to favor skill over athleticism. He wanted to at least recruit one high Level 3P shooter every year. The results of those efforts have born 3P shooting ranks nationally of 73, 7, 2 and 44.

Between that and the offense Purdue runs, I’ll be stunned if we aren’t at least above average.

I see enough guys with potential to be good shooters to be confident 8n saying that. I do think the percentage will be held down by giving some level of freedom to Eastern, Williams and Haarms. I’d be surprised if any of the, are above 35% and a I’d guess they shoot at least 75 between them.

I expect Green, Phinisee and Durham to be between 36-41% as a group shooting the majority of our 3pt shots. Hunter is a good shooter, and I expect him to shoot a good number, I just don’t know how many he’s gonna make considering he’s basically a freshman. I think Anderson makes a jump this year and shoots somewhere in the 30s. Overall I expect our shooting to be much improved in total.

 

[pig1960]

Whoa....Those three took a combined 32 three's last year. They made 8. Seven of those came from Haarms. Eastern took 4....Williams 3....Haarms 25. You expect 40+ more attempts---And 35%?

okay.

Well he did say he didn’t expect any to be above 35% which to me implied he expects it could be significantly lower. Just saying.

 

[boilerzz]

Whoa....Those three took a combined 32 three's last year. They made 8. Seven of those came from Haarms. Eastern took 4....Williams 3....Haarms 25. You expect 40+ more attempts---And 35%?

okay.

I said less than 35% for each. That could be 25, 30 and 33 for all I know.

 

[boilerzz]

Thanks. What % are you expecting for a team?

Hard to say because hard to know who will shoot the majority of threes. I’d guess between 35 and 38%.

I’m also not sure what the impact will be of them moving the line back. The last two times they did that, percentages dropped nationally.

 

[VulvHa]

Honest question, legitimately not trolling, what makes you think they have potential to be an above average 3pt shooting team? The two games we have stats on paint a picture of a very up and down performance. Given you think high volume 3pt shooting is necessary, what percentage are you expecting?

They shot 10-21 from deep yesterday

 

[SNU0821]

They shot 10-21 from deep yesterday

Right but they didn’t shoot well in their scrimmage.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Well he did say he didn’t expect any to be above 35% which to me implied he expects it could be significantly lower. Just saying.

True. I mean, I guess to expect those three to double--or a tad more, their attempts---with Carsen and Cline gone, isn't that crazy. But it kind of is. Eastern and Willams took like 7 combined three's(last year). Just seems a bit of a stretch?

BTW---I didn't say above 35%. I said---"35%".He said @ 35%. Which to me implies at least that.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I said less than 35% for each. That could be 25, 30 and 33 for all I know.

I guess. You said, "above" 35%. Which I took as, as them shooting at best, 35%? Either way, I found it odd to be depending on 3 guys who attempted less three's all year, than Carsen did in one week...

 

[boilerzz]

I guess. You said, "above" 35%. Which I took as, as them shooting at best, 35%? Either way, I found it odd to be depending on 3 guys who attempted less three's all year, than Carsen did in one week...

I said surprised if any of the three were above. I guess most would think that would mean I assume them to be below 35%.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

I’m confused as to why Borden is confused

 

[proudopete]

IMO, he will be the "X" factor, so to speak. He has to be able to shoot. At least be able to make teams respect such. I haven't seen enough to really know---but it does seem as is shooting might be a concern with this team? I know Sasha has shown some moments. But obviously there's no one like Cline or Edwards?
But then again, I'm done doubting Painter. Look, I don't like Purdue. But it is what it is. Dude has shown,at least of late, that he can reload.

Wheeler, Proctor, Sasha, Hunter Jr, and Boudreaux should shoot a pretty decent percentage from beyond the arc to fill in the gaps from last year. I doubt we shoot as many as we did last year but, I bet we shoot in the same ballpark. The Frosh along with Haarms, Tre and Eastern will probably take enough to bring the overall percentage down. I still think as a team, we won’t struggle shooting the 3 at all. 35-42% range and with our bigs, we will have a balanced attack with all five players being able to score in various ways.

I can see Eastern making most of his points down low posting his man or off of put backs and rebounds. He is too good on defense to not have him on the floor.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I’m confused as to why Borden is confused

No confusion...If I said I didn't expect someone to shoot above, i.e. no better, than 35%. Is it out of the question to assume I'm setting 35% as the ceiling? Thats all I was saying.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I said surprised if any of the three were above. I guess most would think that would mean I assume them to be below 35%.

Put as me as most...I did assume you meant below 35%. I also assumed you meant their ceiling was 35%. If wrong--my apologies. Still doesn't change the fact I was caught off guard by you mentioning those three. Kinda of felt you'd go with Sasha and Wheeler.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Wheeler, Proctor, Sasha, Hunter Jr, and Boudreaux should shoot a pretty decent percentage from beyond the arc to fill in the gaps from last year. I doubt we shoot as many as we did last year but, I bet we shoot in the same ballpark. The Frosh along with Haarms, Tre and Eastern will probably take enough to bring the overall percentage down. I still think as a team, we won’t struggle shooting the 3 at all. 35-42% range and with our bigs, we will have a balanced attack with all five players being able to score in various ways.

I can see Eastern making most of his points down low posting his man or off of put backs and rebounds. He is too good on defense to not have him on the floor.

Now this I can see...Or at least understand. But not Willams, Easter and Haarms. Just confused as to why those three would be mentioned. None have shown they can shoot. Haarms was 7-25---So not great---but not awful. Especially for his size.

 

[boilerzz]

Put as me as most...I did assume you meant below 35%. I also assumed you meant their ceiling was 35%. If wrong--my apologies. Still doesn't change the fact I was caught off guard by you mentioning those three. Kinda of felt you'd go with Sasha and Wheeler.

I mentioned those guys because I think they may keep the team percentage down.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I mentioned those guys because I think they may keep the team percentage down.

Yeah, iwent back, and re-read. I totally misunderstood the context of your post. I guess thats what you get when you try and hurry up, and "make fun" of a "dumb" thought, by a rival fan.

 

[IUfanBorden]

When Purdue had the dark years, Painter changed his recruiting philosophy to favor skill over athleticism. He wanted to at least recruit one high Level 3P shooter every year. The results of those efforts have born 3P shooting ranks nationally of 73, 7, 2 and 44.

Between that and the offense Purdue runs, I’ll be stunned if we aren’t at least above average.

THis is why I won't question Painter. I think he has evolved as a coach. Adjusted. It has done him well.

 

[klize17]

Great play call from Brohm...perfection

 

[klize17]

Martinez can use his legs but man he is garbage at throwing the ball.

Frost is trash as well

 

[theetommyt]

Nebraska loses to the state of Indiana this year, ha! Scott Frost is going to have to ask for MAC teams on the schedule next year.

 

[klize17]

Nebraska loses to the state of Indiana this year, ha! Scott Frost is going to have to ask for MAC teams on the schedule next year.

I also love the fact they were bitching about fake injuries and they did the same today.

 

[boiler1987]

Best 3-6 team in football! Lol but that was a good win and it was much needed. Plummer left on a stretcher though and it looked bad. Might be down to our walk-on QB to finish out the year.

 

[boiler1987]

I also love the fact they were bitching about fake injuries and they did the same today.

It was so obvious today haha.

 

[VulvHa]

Martinez can use his legs but man he is garbage at throwing the ball.

Frost is trash as well

Yep, 0 accuracy. He left at least two easy wide open TDs on the field, albeit they scored anyway after the second one.

 

[B-Westy]

Nebraska loses to the state of Indiana this year, ha! Scott Frost is going to have to ask for MAC teams on the schedule next year.

Good call fellas

 

[SNU0821]

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Good call fellas

Wonder if those same guys picked Purdue to beat Nevada. I’d bet so.