Yep, you nailed it for sure, Wesson. Playing extremely well for a true freshman. A good game by him with Tate and Diop is a must for OSU to have any chance at all for the upset. I’m hoping for chaos at Mackey.
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Yep, you nailed it for sure, Wesson. Playing extremely well for a true freshman. A good game by him with Tate and Diop is a must for OSU to have any chance at all for the upset. I’m hoping for chaos at Mackey.
IU up to 80 on Ken Pom
Defense at 76. Movin on up.
Hell of an improvement from where this team was in December
Defense at 76. Movin on up.
Hell of an improvement from where this team was in December
If we coulod only score................IU up to 80 on Ken Pom
Defense at 76. Movin on up.
Hell of an improvement from where this team was in December
Also, this team is really good defensively. Imagine what Miller coached teams with 2-3 years under their belt, are going to be like defensively. Ewwwww.....
Good times are coming my friend.
For those interested in Wednesday’s Purdue vs OSU battle, Coach Holtmann answered a question on Monday per 3-pt shooter Kam Williams.
"Kam will stay home from the Purdue game," Holtmann said. "He will not be with the team. The suspension is still in place. He’s got class back here and he needs to attend his classes.”
"Kam will stay home from the Purdue game," Holtmann said. "He will not be with the team. The suspension is still in place. He’s got class back here and he needs to attend his classes.”
Did Forde miss one here? I can't put my finger on it but I think there is a program missing from this list.
No blue-blood domination (5). There are seven programs that have won three or more national titles: UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Connecticut and Louisville.
https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-minu...sketball-season-lavar-ball-one-062523908.html
No blue-blood domination (5). There are seven programs that have won three or more national titles: UCLA, Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Connecticut and Louisville.
https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-minu...sketball-season-lavar-ball-one-062523908.html
Not sure if sarcasm but he missed Indiana
This can always change, but based on the past quarter century, I would really only view four teams as blue bloods in the current college basketball landscape: UNC, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky.
That's not meant to be trolling in any way, but I think it's really tough to justify UCLA and IU these days - and I still wouldn't consider UConn or Louisville quite to the level of UCLA or IU, even.
“Blue Bloods” don’t change in my opinion. UNC, Duke, UK, Kansas, Indiana UCLA
Top programs fluctuate but the “Blue Bloods” stay the same.
No question Indiana needs some sustained success, but the name is still big in college basketball
Agree. I think there are two tiers, those who have been historically elite and currently are and those who have been historically elite and are not currently.
Tier 1 - Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky
Tier 2 - UCLA, IU, Louisville, Syracuse (I don't even think UConn belongs here)
One could argue Arizona belongs above but I think they don't fit neatly into either bucket.
I believe that Coach Miller and Coach Holtmann are both great young coaches and should have both programs headed in the right direction, but I can tell you that OSU fans were really disappointed when Archie took the Indiana job. lol we thought he’d be in Columbus. Excellent hire for Indiana.
If the situations has been reversed both teams very well could have switched coaches. Not sure either would be unhappy. I do think Archie will do better in recruting but Holtmann will not be a slouch and is a hell of a coach
Louisville vs Indiana is always an interesting conversation to me. Obviously IU has the edge in championships 5 to 3, but Louisville wins pretty much every other metric:
- Final Fours - Louisville 9, IU 8
- Elite Eights - Louisville 14, IU 11
- Sweet Sixteens - Louisville 28, IU 22
- NCAA bids - Louisville 42, IU 39
- AP poll appearances - Louisville 627, IU 554
- NBA first round picks - IU 25, Louisville 24
Don’t forget Hooker and pay for play scandals go to Louisville as well.
National championships take precedent and the amount of titles is going to two
Well, if we are knocking teams off your list for indiscretions, it would just be Duke and IU (and I'm not 100% confident on both of them).
Looks like Forde fixed it. But he did add this little nugget:
Indiana (13-12) has been blown out by Indiana State and Fort Wayne, among other indignities
https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-minu...sketball-season-lavar-ball-one-062523908.html
Forde salty for making a mistake, but he isn't wrong. Nice to see the improvement since those debacles.
Let’s just say it was an interesting recruitment. And yeah I’m guessing we’ll be in the market for a grad transfer guard.
A few IU fans asked Snow if IU would get involved in the fall and he said IU wouldn't get anywhere near Tyger Campbell. He also isn't very high on him. He was overruled by others for his "high" ranking.
Syracuse and Arizona do not belong historically with the other programs mentioned IMO.
We were told that the ship had sailed back when he didn’t sign during the early period and that Purdue would take him, but not waste too much more time on the recuitment.
He liked to toy around with schools it seems. Kept DePaul in till the end and not sure they were a real player even with his old coach on staff. No shocker Steve came to him with open arms.
The Tyger Cambell and Moses Brown recruitments are very interesting. The teams that seemed to be in the lead for them backed off at the end and UCLA picks them up.
Steve was about to be fired two years ago, had to give money back to the university and toe in the Ball shit to save his job. He is having another under performing team that will end up with 10 loses. He will be fired in less than 4 years.
I am not sure if something fishy is going on, but he is just such an mediocre coach. I tend to think LA does the recruiting for him. Unfortunately IU still has crazies pissed off for hiring Archie and not Steve.
Oh yea LA and the UCLA name do most of the recruiting. Losing Moses Brown became expected when he didn’t commit early and reports were he wanted Duke or UK but settled on UCLA. The Tyger decision has to really hurt DePaul, they were there from the beginning. From the limited things I read, UCLA was behind DePaul, Purdue and even Maryland.
There is chatter that he actually wanted Depaul, but his family didn’t want him there.
If true, that is sad.
IU just had a similar situation with a football recruit. The kid really wanted to go to IU, had a teammate commit to IU, but the mother would not let him. The kid was forced to commit to Florida International on signing day, but he never signed. He committed to IU on twitter, but never signed. On the last day of the early signing period he signed with UCF. His mother did not want him far away from home and would not sign the paperwork to IU, even though that is where he wanted to go.
Absolutely brutal. Its the kid’s choice not the parents. The kid is the one playing and going to school, not the parents.
So dumb when parents behave like this. I know football scholarships can be a fluid process, so it may not be as feasible - but I have to imagine if that was a basketball situation, the kid could just bypass the parents and sign a financial aid agreement later in the spring/summer before enrolling.
The fact that the NLI requires parent signature is pretty antiquated.
imo smart parent to not let the kid play football at iu
Congrats to Carsen Edwards on being named as a Jerry West Award finalist:
Maybe I'm wrong, but always seems like Snow relies A LOT on a player's athletic ability on where to rank him. I can't recall an instance where he was high on a player that couldn't jump out of the gym.
Would have just been another player to further separate the IU high school coaches recruiting class from Purdue's.
Honestly, don't know enough on what he favors. In this particular instance he mentioned he isn't as high on Tyger as the other evaluators.
The classes are pretty much even.
Rivals:
IU- 43
Purdue- 45
247:
IU- 43
Purdue-44
I expect Purdue to have an even better 2019 class to be honest. A full year to recruit these guys. Heck we already have a top 175 player on board which we didn’t have this year.
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