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They won’t be competing with what he’s making now.
Oh yes.If South Carolina could make that happen, it would be a great move. It's his alma mater and he's underpaid at Oklahoma State. Don't know how South Carolina is looking financially. I know they just bought out Muschamp and hired a new coach. Can they afford to do it in basketball as well?
What’s his salary right now? When I did a google search I saw it was around 1M. I didn’t dig deep but that won’t be enough to keep him. Obviously OSU will have a chance to raise his salary to keep him around
I think it’s somewhere around there or $1.2 or something. Thereve been rumors for most of the year even before our hot finish that he was in line for a nice raise and an extension. Don’t know the details or where SC is financially, but unless it’s some unreal number and the roster we’ll have coming back I hope we don’t lose him to money
He has built something in Stillwater and we hope he comes home and does the same. If he stays, God bless him and I'll root for him. If he comes home I'll be ecstatic.I think it’s somewhere around there or $1.2 or something. Thereve been rumors for most of the year even before our hot finish that he was in line for a nice raise and an extension. Don’t know the details or where SC is financially, but unless it’s some unreal number and the roster we’ll have coming back I hope we don’t lose him to money
He has built something in Stillwater and we hope he comes home and does the same. If he stays, God bless him and I'll root for him. If he comes home I'll be ecstatic.
He very well may and he has every right to. Ray will tug on his heart strings about building what he did at OSU here at home. End of the day, I feel like this decision will be more about passion than it does money.He may want to keep building what he’s got going at Oklahoma State. It’s always hard to know what coaches are really thinking
Isaac Likekele going to win something big. Just different.He may want to keep building what he’s got going at Oklahoma State. It’s always hard to know what coaches are really thinking
SEC and Big Ten money talks. It's why Underwood and Martin left the Big 12. However, unless you are Boynton or in his inner circle, you don't know what's important to him.
K State is a bad job.
Underwood left because Oklahoma State wasn't going to pay him.
Underwood still to this day has NCAA questions.
I wouldn't be surprised if illinois gets hammered by the NCAA
Money talks. The mid tier teams in the Big 12 don't have as much as the SEC and Big Ten do. That's why it's harder for them to hold on to their coaches. K-State is a more successful program than South Carolina but money talked. You even said Underwood left because Illinois offered way more money.
Oklahoma State does have the ability to pay coaches.
Underwood at the time had issues at SFA and Oklahoma State.
After he left both programs were hit by the NCAA.
Underwood is one of the coaches the NCAA is after now. You go 2 for 2 they are on your ass.
Oklahoma State is a program that is already under the watchful eye of the NCAA because of past behavior
That's what you say but they already invest a lot of money in Underwood and aren't paying Boynton very much. Their inability to pay Underwood is why he's at Illinois and why Illinois is a national contender.
Isaac Likekele going to win something big. Just different.
Like a 34 year old man talking in the body of a 20 year old.
Don't care if he plays for Oklahoma State I respect the hell out of him.
Crazy thing is Oklahoma State could be better next year even without Cade Cunningham.
They can still make noise this year.
We will see. Oklahoma State does have deep pockets.
Matters if they are willing to spend it.
K State is a bad job.
Underwood left because Oklahoma State wasn't going to pay him.
Underwood still to this day has NCAA questions.
I wouldn't be surprised if illinois gets hammered by the NCAA
1) The NCAA looked at Underwood plenty, and nothin’. I won’t even go into why that scandal not only didn’t benefit Underwood while he was there but would have done the exact opposite ... and just leave it at the facts - any smoke you conjure up about Underwood and ESPECIALLY about Illinois is nothing but your own conjecture, period. Likely some wishful thinking, too.
2) I know you’re a Big XII guy, but Underwood left for Illinois because Illinois is a better job. I’ll try to be unbiased and say it has a comparable tradition to Okie State and equally passionate fans, but it has more financial resources by itself (though Ok St has the wild card of T Boone), it has more financial resources from its conference, it has MUCH better instate recruiting, it has better facilities and it’s been proven time and time again that a good staff can be great at Illinois and consistently have teams ranked nationally/getting high NCAAT seeds/competing for conference titles/etc. (i.e., Illinois hasn’t relied on one coach to pad its numbers).
5 of the last 6 Illinois coaches have won at least one Big Ten title, and 4 of the last 6 have obtained a No. 1 seed in the NCAAs. That kind of “high ceiling” potential spread out over that many coaches is likely not seen at many other programs in the nation, and I believe it speaks to the extreme potential of the job. Oklahoma State is a great job, as well, but not quite as good as Illinois in my admittedly biased eyes. (Late) Bruce Weber and John Groce teams have been proven not to be the norm at Illinois but rather a damning indictment on those coaches’ shortcomings.
He would be a fool to leave Oklahoma State. Sc is a very hard place to win at. However, Martin has burned bridges and most kids don’t want to play for him.He very well may and he has every right to. Ray will tug on his heart strings about building what he did at OSU here at home. End of the day, I feel like this decision will be more about passion than it does money.
You're completely ignorant.Oklahoma State does have the ability to pay coaches.
Underwood at the time had issues at SFA and Oklahoma State.
After he left both programs were hit by the NCAA.
Underwood is one of the coaches the NCAA is after now. You go 2 for 2 they are on your ass.
Oklahoma State is a program that is already under the watchful eye of the NCAA because of past behavior
As a USC grad and fan there is a high risk high reward. Go to the tourney more often than not and you are a hero. He would be a great hire as he (or anyone) can recruit better than Frank Martin.Seems like a move to wreck your career tbh. He should stay unless a better (or at least a good) job opens up if he wants to leave.
As a USC grad and fan there is a high risk high reward. Go to the tourney more often than not and you are a hero. He would be a great hire as he (or anyone) can recruit better than Frank Martin.
don’t they have like the richest most donating booster in history in Boone Pickens. $$$ shouldn’t be a problem you wouldn’t think, suprised he only makes 1.2 mil tbh but I’m only familiar with about how much the very highest paid coaches salaries are.
1 | Texas | Big 12 | $223,879,781 | $204,234,897 | $0 | 0.00 |
2 | Texas A&M | SEC | $212,748,002 | $169,012,456 | $0 | 0.00 |
3 | Ohio State | Big Ten | $210,548,239 | $220,572,956 | $0 | 0.00 |
4 | Michigan | Big Ten | $197,820,410 | $190,952,175 | $261,773 | 0.13 |
5 | Georgia | SEC | $174,042,482 | $143,299,554 | $3,508,850 | 2.02 |
6 | Penn State | Big Ten | $164,529,326 | $160,369,805 | $0 | 0.00 |
7 | Alabama | SEC | $164,090,889 | $185,317,681 | $2,654,551 | 1.62 |
8 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | $163,126,695 | $157,958,270 | $0 | 0.00 |
9 | Florida | SEC | $159,706,937 | $141,829,002 | $2,261,773 | 1.42 |
10 | LSU | SEC | $157,787,782 | $148,977,880 | $0 | 0.00 |
11 | Wisconsin | Big Ten | $157,660,107 | $154,621,828 | $3,029,000 | 1.92 |
12 | Florida State | ACC | $152,757,883 | $150,147,316 | $15,607,019 | 10.22 |
13 | Auburn | SEC | $152,455,416 | $139,260,711 | $5,261,252 | 3.45 |
14 | Iowa | Big Ten | $151,976,026 | $146,282,275 | $650,000 | 0.43 |
15 | Kentucky | SEC | $150,435,842 | $144,886,246 | $0 | 0.00 |
16 | Tennessee | SEC | $143,765,903 | $142,976,173 | $0 | 0.00 |
17 | South Carolina | SEC | $140,695,659 | $136,879,732 | $0 | 0.00 |
18 | Michigan State | Big Ten | $140,010,865 | $135,655,740 | $885,690 | 0.63 |
19 | Louisville | ACC | $139,955,824 | $151,167,940 | $5,923,817 | 4.23 |
20 | Arkansas | SEC | $137,497,788 | $129,620,361 | $0 | 0.00 |
21 | Nebraska | Big Ten | $136,233,460 | $124,148,206 | $0 | 0.00 |
22 | Clemson | ACC | $133,861,515 | $131,978,513 | $5,602,440 | 4.19 |
23 | Washington | Pac-12 | $133,792,677 | $131,317,636 | $4,151,964 | 3.10 |
24 | Minnesota | Big Ten | $130,456,454 | $129,450,256 | $7,972,732 | 6.11 |
25 | Indiana | Big Ten | $127,832,628 | $114,822,135 | $2,954,505 | 2.31 |
26 | Oregon | Pac-12 | $127,508,498 | $128,943,543 | $452,924 | 0.36 |
27 | Arizona State | Pac-12 | $121,698,840 | $118,404,377 | $19,356,134 | 15.90 |
28 | Kansas | Big 12 | $121,553,307 | $108,881,800 | $1,746,274 | 1.44 |
29 | Illinois | Big Ten | $118,565,501 | $120,168,951 | $8,652,815 | 7.30 |
30 | Mississippi State | SEC | $112,273,809 | $98,832,615 | $0 | 0.00 |
31 | Purdue | Big Ten | $110,844,907 | $102,026,477 | $0 | 0.00 |
32 | Virginia | ACC | $110,219,117 | $112,621,238 | $18,429,801 | 16.72 |
33 | Maryland | Big Ten | $108,796,303 | $108,785,924 | $25,363,715 | 23.31 |
34 | Mississippi | SEC | $108,442,428 | $113,013,400 | $3,095,396 | 2.85 |
35 | UCLA | Pac-12 | $108,412,967 | $127,339,042 | $2,577,213 | 2.38 |
36 | North Carolina | ACC | $107,812,619 | $110,809,706 | $9,163,374 | 8.50 |
37 | Missouri | SEC | $106,610,244 | $108,398,447 | $1,015,000 | 0.95 |
38 | Arizona | Pac-12 | $105,091,389 | $100,565,835 | $21,886,167 | 20.83 |
39 | Rutgers | Big Ten | $103,251,280 | $103,167,344 | $29,859,395 | 28.92 |
40 | West Virginia | Big 12 | $102,680,928 | $98,249,890 | $3,902,899 | 3.80 |
41 | Utah | Pac-12 | $99,526,695 | $96,000,514 | $12,594,513 | 12.65 |
42 | Virginia Tech | ACC | $96,772,489 | $93,961,068 | $10,278,338 | 10.62 |
43 | Texas Tech | Big 12 | $96,625,347 | $95,132,604 | $3,517,672 | 3.64 |
44 | Iowa State | Big 12 | $95,411,884 | $95,315,376 | $2,054,314 | 2.15 |
45 | Oklahoma State | Big 12 | $95,335,482 | $95,008,483 | $87,640 | 0.09 |
Talk about not getting much on your returnthis is from 2018-2019 but things dont change that much
1 Texas Big 12 $223,879,781 $204,234,897 $0 0.00 2 Texas A&M SEC $212,748,002 $169,012,456 $0 0.00 3 Ohio State Big Ten $210,548,239 $220,572,956 $0 0.00 4 Michigan Big Ten $197,820,410 $190,952,175 $261,773 0.13 5 Georgia SEC $174,042,482 $143,299,554 $3,508,850 2.02 6 Penn State Big Ten $164,529,326 $160,369,805 $0 0.00 7 Alabama SEC $164,090,889 $185,317,681 $2,654,551 1.62 8 Oklahoma Big 12 $163,126,695 $157,958,270 $0 0.00 9 Florida SEC $159,706,937 $141,829,002 $2,261,773 1.42 10 LSU SEC $157,787,782 $148,977,880 $0 0.00 11 Wisconsin Big Ten $157,660,107 $154,621,828 $3,029,000 1.92 12 Florida State ACC $152,757,883 $150,147,316 $15,607,019 10.22 13 Auburn SEC $152,455,416 $139,260,711 $5,261,252 3.45 14 Iowa Big Ten $151,976,026 $146,282,275 $650,000 0.43 15 Kentucky SEC $150,435,842 $144,886,246 $0 0.00 16 Tennessee SEC $143,765,903 $142,976,173 $0 0.00 17 South Carolina SEC $140,695,659 $136,879,732 $0 0.00 18 Michigan State Big Ten $140,010,865 $135,655,740 $885,690 0.63 19 Louisville ACC $139,955,824 $151,167,940 $5,923,817 4.23 20 Arkansas SEC $137,497,788 $129,620,361 $0 0.00 21 Nebraska Big Ten $136,233,460 $124,148,206 $0 0.00 22 Clemson ACC $133,861,515 $131,978,513 $5,602,440 4.19 23 Washington Pac-12 $133,792,677 $131,317,636 $4,151,964 3.10 24 Minnesota Big Ten $130,456,454 $129,450,256 $7,972,732 6.11 25 Indiana Big Ten $127,832,628 $114,822,135 $2,954,505 2.31 26 Oregon Pac-12 $127,508,498 $128,943,543 $452,924 0.36 27 Arizona State Pac-12 $121,698,840 $118,404,377 $19,356,134 15.90 28 Kansas Big 12 $121,553,307 $108,881,800 $1,746,274 1.44 29 Illinois Big Ten $118,565,501 $120,168,951 $8,652,815 7.30 30 Mississippi State SEC $112,273,809 $98,832,615 $0 0.00 31 Purdue Big Ten $110,844,907 $102,026,477 $0 0.00 32 Virginia ACC $110,219,117 $112,621,238 $18,429,801 16.72 33 Maryland Big Ten $108,796,303 $108,785,924 $25,363,715 23.31 34 Mississippi SEC $108,442,428 $113,013,400 $3,095,396 2.85 35 UCLA Pac-12 $108,412,967 $127,339,042 $2,577,213 2.38 36 North Carolina ACC $107,812,619 $110,809,706 $9,163,374 8.50 37 Missouri SEC $106,610,244 $108,398,447 $1,015,000 0.95 38 Arizona Pac-12 $105,091,389 $100,565,835 $21,886,167 20.83 39 Rutgers Big Ten $103,251,280 $103,167,344 $29,859,395 28.92 40 West Virginia Big 12 $102,680,928 $98,249,890 $3,902,899 3.80 41 Utah Pac-12 $99,526,695 $96,000,514 $12,594,513 12.65 42 Virginia Tech ACC $96,772,489 $93,961,068 $10,278,338 10.62 43 Texas Tech Big 12 $96,625,347 $95,132,604 $3,517,672 3.64 44 Iowa State Big 12 $95,411,884 $95,315,376 $2,054,314 2.15 45 Oklahoma State Big 12 $95,335,482 $95,008,483 $87,640 0.09
What are each of these columns?this is from 2018-2019 but things dont change that much
1 Texas Big 12 $223,879,781 $204,234,897 $0 0.00 2 Texas A&M SEC $212,748,002 $169,012,456 $0 0.00 3 Ohio State Big Ten $210,548,239 $220,572,956 $0 0.00 4 Michigan Big Ten $197,820,410 $190,952,175 $261,773 0.13 5 Georgia SEC $174,042,482 $143,299,554 $3,508,850 2.02 6 Penn State Big Ten $164,529,326 $160,369,805 $0 0.00 7 Alabama SEC $164,090,889 $185,317,681 $2,654,551 1.62 8 Oklahoma Big 12 $163,126,695 $157,958,270 $0 0.00 9 Florida SEC $159,706,937 $141,829,002 $2,261,773 1.42 10 LSU SEC $157,787,782 $148,977,880 $0 0.00 11 Wisconsin Big Ten $157,660,107 $154,621,828 $3,029,000 1.92 12 Florida State ACC $152,757,883 $150,147,316 $15,607,019 10.22 13 Auburn SEC $152,455,416 $139,260,711 $5,261,252 3.45 14 Iowa Big Ten $151,976,026 $146,282,275 $650,000 0.43 15 Kentucky SEC $150,435,842 $144,886,246 $0 0.00 16 Tennessee SEC $143,765,903 $142,976,173 $0 0.00 17 South Carolina SEC $140,695,659 $136,879,732 $0 0.00 18 Michigan State Big Ten $140,010,865 $135,655,740 $885,690 0.63 19 Louisville ACC $139,955,824 $151,167,940 $5,923,817 4.23 20 Arkansas SEC $137,497,788 $129,620,361 $0 0.00 21 Nebraska Big Ten $136,233,460 $124,148,206 $0 0.00 22 Clemson ACC $133,861,515 $131,978,513 $5,602,440 4.19 23 Washington Pac-12 $133,792,677 $131,317,636 $4,151,964 3.10 24 Minnesota Big Ten $130,456,454 $129,450,256 $7,972,732 6.11 25 Indiana Big Ten $127,832,628 $114,822,135 $2,954,505 2.31 26 Oregon Pac-12 $127,508,498 $128,943,543 $452,924 0.36 27 Arizona State Pac-12 $121,698,840 $118,404,377 $19,356,134 15.90 28 Kansas Big 12 $121,553,307 $108,881,800 $1,746,274 1.44 29 Illinois Big Ten $118,565,501 $120,168,951 $8,652,815 7.30 30 Mississippi State SEC $112,273,809 $98,832,615 $0 0.00 31 Purdue Big Ten $110,844,907 $102,026,477 $0 0.00 32 Virginia ACC $110,219,117 $112,621,238 $18,429,801 16.72 33 Maryland Big Ten $108,796,303 $108,785,924 $25,363,715 23.31 34 Mississippi SEC $108,442,428 $113,013,400 $3,095,396 2.85 35 UCLA Pac-12 $108,412,967 $127,339,042 $2,577,213 2.38 36 North Carolina ACC $107,812,619 $110,809,706 $9,163,374 8.50 37 Missouri SEC $106,610,244 $108,398,447 $1,015,000 0.95 38 Arizona Pac-12 $105,091,389 $100,565,835 $21,886,167 20.83 39 Rutgers Big Ten $103,251,280 $103,167,344 $29,859,395 28.92 40 West Virginia Big 12 $102,680,928 $98,249,890 $3,902,899 3.80 41 Utah Pac-12 $99,526,695 $96,000,514 $12,594,513 12.65 42 Virginia Tech ACC $96,772,489 $93,961,068 $10,278,338 10.62 43 Texas Tech Big 12 $96,625,347 $95,132,604 $3,517,672 3.64 44 Iowa State Big 12 $95,411,884 $95,315,376 $2,054,314 2.15 45 Oklahoma State Big 12 $95,335,482 $95,008,483 $87,640 0.09
What are each of these columns?
And USC gamecocks fans are delusional just like IU fans, the latter at least had their glory days so I can understand that some old hoosiers still havent waken up from their wet dream, but I really fail to understand the case with USC fans. When was the last time USC gamecocks were relevant? Not in a parallel universe of course.
Some schools have tradition, others are trying to build it. South Carolina has the resources so they should be trying to improve the program. No reason to just sit back and watch bad basketball.
If they want to improve the program and watch good basketball, they should just stick with Frank Martin 'cause they aint going to find a better replacement.
And USC gamecocks fans are delusional just like IU fans, the latter at least had their glory days so I can understand that some old hoosiers still havent waken up from their wet dream, but I really fail to understand the case with USC fans. When was the last time USC gamecocks were relevant? Not in a parallel universe of course.