Let’s play a different recruiting game!
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Yep, that was it. LSU had Jimbo as its OC and JaMarcus Russell, Early Doucet, Dwayne Bowe etc.
Seemed liked every play someone was getting carted off the field and it was hot as hell that day...
That’s probably accurate. I have never had any desire to live in a place like NYC, LA, Houston, Miami, Etc. Probably because, like you said, I was raised in the south in a relatively small city.
But mid-size places like Denver, Raleigh, and Jacksonville are nice.
Then, once you were done with those 5 visits, you would just do the smart thing and commit to UK sight unseen. I gotcha, I read-ya.
Congrats on the new addition to your family.
Thanks! It's a boy. Baby #3 for us. Here's a pic the wife took the other day.
And yeah, probably wouldn't end up at Clemson with Brownell. Maybe if they signed an uber-talented freshmen like Zion Williamson... or if Rick Barnes was running the show. I think I'd most likely pick between Kansas and Gonzaga (assuming Duke is off the table).
You have to be relieved he's not mulatto.Thanks! It's a boy. Baby #3 for us. Here's a pic the wife took the other day.
And yeah, probably wouldn't end up at Clemson with Brownell. Maybe if they signed an uber-talented freshmen like Zion Williamson... or if Rick Barnes was running the show. I think I'd most likely pick between Kansas and Gonzaga (assuming Duke is off the table).
kidding, congrats.
Can't wait to read his stat spread sheets,.
lol right! He is part Cherokee, however. More white than Cherokee, but enough to be an enrolled member and get checks from the casino twice a year.
Oh My, he is precious!Thanks! It's a boy. Baby #3 for us. Here's a pic the wife took the other day.
And yeah, probably wouldn't end up at Clemson with Brownell. Maybe if they signed an uber-talented freshmen like Zion Williamson... or if Rick Barnes was running the show. I think I'd most likely pick between Kansas and Gonzaga (assuming Duke is off the table).
Congrats to you and your wife.
Are you really trying to say that a kid should pick Barnes over K, Calipari, Izzo and coaches like that??
I was responding to the “when was the last time rick Barnes has a one and done” in regards to player development, I was questioning the post not the thread, but now I see ur point, about the thread being about a top 10 recruit. My bad.
Not only am I saying it, I'm supporting it with sound logic. Barnes has shown the ability to get the most out of a player.
I'm sure there have been times when Cal recruited the best class, but did not win it all. So, is he really getting everything out of the talent?
If I’m a 3 star I would chose Tennessee and Barnes over Kentucky/Calipari for sure. Not sure I can agree if I’m a top 20 recruit though. Barnes just doesn’t really have a track record with those guys at Tennessee.
It is hard to have a track record at a school with only 5 years and building from nothing. However, Barnes has put great players in the Pros over his career.
Josiah Jordan James wasn’t exactly a success story this year, considering he was a projected one and done, top 20 pick coming out of high school. But admittedly that’s a very small sample size.
Kevin Durant was a long time ago. I guess that’s kind of my point. As a top 20 recruit, I’d rather go with a more known quantity like Calipari, Coach K, Izzo, etc.
Go where you want GE, but judging from this year's class, higher star kids appear to be buying in.
I hope they all have great success. Tennessee being good means a tougher road for UF!
Lurker,I like you, I really do. ( I mean that)
Please don't de-evolve to living in the past like y'all's old man of the board. You will never be happy if your only joy from UK basketball comes from watching vhs tapes of UK in the 40's and 50's. You have never heard me deny that UK has had a rich past, but the past needs to stay where it belongs, the past.
Della why do this to yourself? You act like UK hasn’t done anything since back in the 50’s and 60’s. We have more wins, final 4’s and elite 8’s than anybody else this decade plus we won a title! Why come on here and show everyone you no nothing about hoops? Last year UT sucked and you was hardly around. We all know you’re only a UT basketball fan when they are good. You’ve proven that! You always talk about living in the past and I’ll say it again, if UT had a past worth a shit you would be proud of it just like UK, UNc, UCLA and others are of their past! Hell, you talk about the little two year run UT had more than UK fans talk about anything. That’s what makes a blue blood a blue blood, Success through out the years and not just every now and then like UT.
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And that shows exactly that you know nothing about basketball or sports! The best DOES NOT always win! I can also promise you there are tons of coaches that have took less talented players and won a few games here and there just like Barnes. Don’t get me wrong he’s a good coach but he’s not what top ten kids think about when they are thinking about a coach that can get them ready for the pros. By your logic the coaches at all these small schools that make a final four are better than Cal, K, Izzo and Williams! Shaka won with less talented players and then he went to Texas, hows that working out for him???
None of that is true. In this very thread I mentioned UK has had a rich tradition.
Furthermore, I was here last year. I may not live here like a UK fan cause UT participates in other sports. You might be surprised to know UK does too.
The board I'm on most is the sound off board.
You can't with a straight face call me a fair weather fan when you refuse to support anything UK except CBB. I am at least on both boards and you are not.
You seem to think some of a team's success makes one a superior fan. I think that is ridiculous. I think being a superior fan is supporting your team.
The thing about past accomplishments is people generally relish their own and don’t really give a shit about anyone else’s. Human nature maybe. I’m proud of Louisville’s titles in the 80s but don’t much give a damn about UCLAs wooden/Gilbert run of titles. Or titles won before black people could play. It doesn’t logically make sense but that’s just generally how it works with fandom, imo
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Barnes 2020 class is ranked 4th Rivals/5th 247 in the country, so high ranked kids appear to be thinking about UT.
I don’t really care about others, but I do respect them. What guys like Calipari and K have done is incredible. Roy, Wright, and Izzo too.
To be fair, you’re both kind of right. Barnes has certainly elevated the stature of Tennessee and your incoming class is great.
But, there still isn’t a single consensus top 10, or even top 15 kid committed to Tennessee this year. (And the post you responded to did specify “top 10.”)
I may have responded to a top ten post, but I said, "high ranked Kids". I think we can all agree the 15th & 16 ranked kid qualifies as highly ranked?
Jaden Springer is ranked 15th...
Wrong again! I support all UK sports! Hell I support UK cheerleading but that don’t mean I have to go to message boards! The thing is, you was on here loud and proud the last two years but then this year you (when UT wasn’t doing the greatest) you wasn’t here very often and I’m not the only one who noticed it. Was I surprised? No, because like I said, we see it every time a team like UT, Auburn or anybody else puts together a nice little two or three year run and then they all disappear when their teams go back to the norm! Do I go to the football boards? Not very often! I’m a a UK football fan? Yes...a huge fan! I was a fan through the late 80’s when I was old enough to understand sports, through the 90’s and all the way to this point! The thing is, I know where UK has been in football and just because they put together a nice little run over the years I’m not gonna walk into the football boards pounding my chest like we are kings of the SEC! I’m proud of my cats but I also know and I don’t pretend to be Alabama, LSU, Auburn or Georgia! They are the kings of SEC football and I know that!!! You wanna know how far UT football has sunk? UT fans brag about beating UK. That’s the state of UT football these days!!!
You are using a double standard. You say, "that don't mean I have to go to the message board" when referring to yourself, but then you criticize me for not being here enough? How does that work?
The football board is my main board, it always has been. UT football has been mediocre for a decade, but I'm still there.
He’s 16th in the consensus ranking, which is generally what folks go by as the most accurate. But yes, your point remains—those are highly ranked kids he has coming in.
But basketball isn’t the same as football. There is a real difference between a top 5-10 kid in hoops and a top 16-30 kid. Honestly, there’s a big difference between a top 3 kid and a top 10 kid.
Just look at the NBA draft. Top 3-5 kids are almost always first rounders, and many top 5-10 kids are too. But the ratio really starts to fall off after that.
He is 15th on rivals and we have the 16th also. Duke had the #2 class in America, they didn't land one top 10 kid. I suppose they should fire coach K.
You are choosing to split hairs. The larger point is that Barnes and UT are attracting and signing elite talent.
I’m not splitting hairs. That’s my point. In men’s basketball there is a real difference between top 10 and top 15-30. The historical outcomes of these kids demonstrates this year after year. And yeah, Duke fans are a little bummed that they don’t have a top 5 kid this year.
Della, sometimes you gotta just be a little less defensive. Barnes is doing fantastic work at Tennessee. The whole country sees that. I was courtside for the Emerald Classic game this year between FSU and the Vols, tough and physical game. I spoke with Barnes afterward and he was honest and insightful. No one is suggesting that your recruiting class isn’t terrific.
It’s okay if someone says other recruits are better or other coaches have accomplished more.
No I’m saying that you don’t see me showing up on the football board acting like UK is the new standard of SEC football and then disappearing when they don’t back up the smack talk that I laid out! That’s what I’m saying!
To be fair, Jalen Johnson is still a top 10 recruit - and probably closer to being top 5. He fell a bit in the rankings because he didn't play his first game until February. Averaged 25, 11, and 5 in his nine games with IMG Academy. He's a poor man's version of Ben Simmons - versatile point forward that does everything well, except shooting.
You haven't seen me do that either. I said UT was a bubble team when we still had Turner on this board.
You should call me later.After midnight if you're up.
.or not,either ways it's ok. I had a good time talking to you last time.
Not totally correct regarding Shaka.
He has his faults but player development really isn't one.
You are going to see with Kai Jones. Shaka was smart with him this year because Jones could have easily left like Jaxson Hayes.
Both players weren't really considered top tier recruits
Regarding Barnes.
At Texas he had both. Hasn't had the one and dones at Tennessee yet but he had a few with Texas.
Myles Turner was his last one and done. Don't know where he finished in the rankings but he was considered one of the top players that year
The difference IMO in coaches is how they use one and dones.
Can't develop athleticism. A player has it or not and the NBA drafts on upside.
But what coaches can do is maximize that talent. Truthfully have seen some one and dones get drafted purely based on upside.
Been through this Della.
Barnes is going to win some games in February and March. Going to get the fanbase behind the sport.
Just matters what Tennessee wants. They are at the stage where they are happy with that.
In terms of him making deep runs and competiting for Final 4's and National Championships.
Not the coach for that.. Don't know his peak at Tennessee. At Texas it was the Elite 8 really and lucked into a Final 4.
As you can imagine, I watched UT in the tourney last year. In the game they were eliminated, they lost in OT. It was a great game, it could have gone either way.
I thought Barnes had UT ready and called a good game. That is really all you can ask for.
