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Juzang to UK

As long as the Royals continue to win World Series titles, I’ll be happy.
 
"BTW, 90% (if not more) of Kentucky fans would have chosen freshman Fox over senior Mason going into the tourney."

....so do the Sacramento Kings as Mason backs up Fox.

Think Mason ever reminds him of that time he dong slapped him in Rupp?
 
...that window of time where they were able to pull that off has obviously closed. Now they're even taking cast-offs from the Reds.

Sorry, what I meant was “as long as the Royals continue to beat the Mets in the World Series, I’m good.”
 
Yet you lambasted Duke for not winning this year.

And before you say "Zion, blah blah blah"...he's one player. Cal has had several teams as talented overall as this Duke team.

Face it, youth just isn't a great excuse when you're dealing with 8-10 of the most talented players in the country. They're not all freshmen, and by the end of the year most of those freshmen are usually well-adjusted to the college game.
You totally missed the point of my post.

I've said from the start, if you're going to try to win it all, you either have to have at least 1 transcendent player in addition to several other really good players, or you have to have a team full of really good veterans that have size and athleticism.

Now, did Duke 2019 fit either of those descriptions? The answer is easy, you just have to read from the 20th word in my post.

As far as what MY post was about. I was referring to the classes of freshmen Cal has been getting. He's getting 5* players, yup, sure is, but they aren't transcendent players. There's a big difference.

You can and should win it all when you have Anthony Davis + MKG + Terrence Jones.

You should win it all when you have Wall + Cousins + Bledsoe.

You should also win it all when you have Zion + RJ + Jones + Reddish.

I can understand Sean or Archie Miller losing before the FF with those teams, but not K or Cal.
 
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So now the recruiting experts are out to get Kentucky by trolling them....yeah......that sounds......legit

I'd bet on you not having any "sources" being as you are 0/2. Juzang was WAY off. And now the most connected recruiting guy switches to foggy and we all know no one has the info he does. Obviously he's heard something and I guess your "source" hasn't. Laughing

Again, he may go to Uk, but everyone follows E.D. in basically every recruitment. After he makes his pick, several several others follow every time. If he's up in the air, then it's up in the air, which means your "source" was once again, wrong.
Well, he's not going to Louisville, so why do you care?

You’re more interested in UK losing recruits or busting UK fans over stupid crap like this then your own disgusting university.

But that's not surprising, Pitino and Jurich were also more concerned with trying to hang with UK, that's why they let things happen right under their noses that other program managers catch.
 
Yeah, youth is an excuse for run-of-the-mill freshmen. Not for players that would be getting solid NBA minutes if they weren’t forced to spend a year in college. Not sure what is difficult to understand about this concept.

Wall and Cousins were not Ochai Agbaji.

Virtually every year Kentucky fans go into the tourney with expectations as high as any fanbase. The youth excuse only starts pouring out when they lose.

If building a team this way is a poor strategy, does that make Cal a moron? Why not mix in more multi-year players? There have been very few surprise OADs at Kentucky. Most have followed the predictable track. It would be very easy for him to do this. Yet, for all the excuses, very few Kentucky fans actually want this. You want to bombard opposing teams with raw talent (and some key vets—let’s not pretend like Cal never has a sophomore Washington or a Reid Travis).

I’m not sure how “players get better with experience” shoots down my argument. The point is that many of these freshmen are already among the best players in the country. Kentucky has had more superstar, NBA-ready freshmen than anyone else under Calipari. Only Duke has even been close. And the vast majority of these OADs were very productive college players. There haven’t been many Ortons or Skals. And the occasional disappointment isn’t devastating when there are 8 more high-level players on the roster.

BTW, 90% (if not more) of Kentucky fans would have chosen freshman Fox over senior Mason going into the tourney.
Cal has tried to mix in veterans. Winning titles is hard. He's now started bringing in grad transfers.

But, Cal does not coach at UK to make fans happy. He's made that clear since the beginning. Cal is getting out of it what he wants, which is getting kids to the league.

Sure, he wants to win titles, but it's a crapshoot. The best team hardly ever wins and Cal has won more games than any other coach since he came to UK. He's won more tournament games and more regular season games. So his system does work, but again, winning titles is hard.

Lastly, even though Cal has more wins than anyone else since 2010 and fields mostly freshmen based teams, he's thought of, by people like you, as a coach that just rolls the balls out, while K and Roy are thought of as great hall of fame coaches.
 
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Laughing Still think he ends up at Kentucky, but this just shows his "source" is nothing. ED is the most connected with just about every kid.
I have new information from a secret source that has confidential information from someone that he will not name that says he is entrusted with restrictive and private information that he cannot divulge at this time.
 
according to Bossi........ things might of changed tonight with McDaniels that would of made RR right with his info. Dont want to say anything more so I dont give away HOB info from Bossi.
I have new information from a secret source that has confidential information from someone that he will not name that says he is entrusted with restrictive and private information that he cannot divulge at this time.
 
Cal has tried to mix in veterans. Winning titles is hard. He's now started bringing in grad transfers.

But, Cal does not coach at UK to make fans happy. He's made that clear since the beginning. Cal is getting out of it what he wants, which is getting kids to the league.

Sure, he wants to win titles, but it's a crapshoot. The best team hardly ever wins and Cal has won more games than any other coach since he came to UK. He's won more tournament games and more regular season games. So his system does work, but again, winning titles is hard.

Lastly, even though Cal has more wins than anyone else since 2010 and fields mostly freshmen based teams, he's thought of, by people like you, as a coach that just rolls the balls out, while K and Roy are thought of as great hall of fame coaches.

“Winning titles is hard” is a much better excuse to run with than “too young.”

The only team aside from the NIT team that was probably too young or flawed to make a run at it was 2018.
 
“Winning titles is hard” is a much better excuse to run with than “too young.”

The only team aside from the NIT team that was probably too young or flawed to make a run at it was 2018.
The "too young" excuse certainly applies when your best player is Kevin Knox level.

Are you struggling to see the difference between a Kevin Knox/Murray/Ulis/Hami/Alexander and a Zion/RJ/Wall/Cousins type player? Can you not tell the difference in those players?

Zion and RJ are ready to step in and start on an NBA roster right now. Zion might be the best player in New Orleans next year.

There is a huge difference between a generational/transcendent player and a typical 4/5* player?
 
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The "too young" excuse certainly applies when your best player is Kevin Knox level.

Are you struggling to see the difference between a Kevin Knox/Murray/Ulis/Hami/Alexander and a Zion/RJ/Wall/Cousins type player? Can you not tell the difference in those players?

Zion and RJ are ready to step in and start on an NBA roster right now. Zion might be the best player in New Orleans next year.

There is a huge difference between a generational/transcendent player and a typical 4/5* player?
So intelligent.
 
The "too young" excuse certainly applies when your best player is Kevin Knox level.

Are you struggling to see the difference between a Kevin Knox/Murray/Ulis/Hami/Alexander and a Zion/RJ/Wall/Cousins type player? Can you not tell the difference in those players?

Zion and RJ are ready to step in and start on an NBA roster right now. Zion might be the best player in New Orleans next year.

There is a huge difference between a generational/transcendent player and a typical 4/5* player?

I’m not sure why you’re listing off players from a team that I already said was too young and flawed.

You’re really reaching in trying to put Barrett in Zion’s category. Regardless, there wasn’t a lot of offensive firepower around them. Overall, this Duke team didn’t measure up to a 2010 or 2015 Kentucky. It only seemed like it at times due to a relatively weak field.

Kevin Durant was probably the most dominant college player of the modern era and was surrounded by 5 stars and a good point guard. Did you expect Texas to win it all that year?
 
Unless people are playing UK big time......... be prepared for another thread by end of Wed for J. McDaniels.... although I am interested in how UNCfaninky and HR card will react since anything UK triggers their rustle
I’ll be waiting for your new thread. Good luck!
 
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Right, JM picks UK today, according to @Rupp'sRunt
Is it too early to say, congratulations?
Right, JM picks UK today, according to @Rupp'sRunt
Is it too early to say, congratulations?
Maybe we should wait a while. Not sure he will decide today. No need if he is just going to sign financial papers. If I was a recruit that is all I would do. It gives you a chance to change your mind if something happens later.
 
I’m not sure why you’re listing off players from a team that I already said was too young and flawed.

You’re really reaching in trying to put Barrett in Zion’s category. Regardless, there wasn’t a lot of offensive firepower around them. Overall, this Duke team didn’t measure up to a 2010 or 2015 Kentucky. It only seemed like it at times due to a relatively weak field.

Kevin Durant was probably the most dominant college player of the modern era and was surrounded by 5 stars and a good point guard. Did you expect Texas to win it all that year?
I'm listing off players because you're trying to act like Duke 2019 was essentially the same as UK 2018. No way, there's a huge difference.

Are you saying RJ is not a transcendent player? I clearly stated that Zion was a generational player and RJ was a transcendent player.

Don't care what you say, Duke had more talent across the board than anyone else and if Mike K is the GOAT, no way he loses prior to the FF with a team like that.

You bringing up KD at Texas only proves my point. Rick Barnes was the sole reason for Texas' failure that year.

And I have no idea why you're trying to take up for Duke, you'll be seen slamming them in another thread in 3-2-1…

Well, actually I do know why, it's because you have a massive chub for UK and UK fans.
 
I'm listing off players because you're trying to act like Duke 2019 was essentially the same as UK 2018. No way, there's a huge difference.

Are you saying RJ is not a transcendent player? I clearly stated that Zion was a generational player and RJ was a transcendent player.

Don't care what you say, Duke had more talent across the board than anyone else and if Mike K is the GOAT, no way he loses prior to the FF with a team like that.

You bringing up KD at Texas only proves my point. Rick Barnes was the sole reason for Texas' failure that year.

And I have no idea why you're trying to take up for Duke, you'll be seen slamming them in another thread in 3-2-1…

Well, actually I do know why, it's because you have a massive chub for UK and UK fans.

And yet Barnes is kicking ass in the SEC with nowhere near that kind of talent. Hm.

It's interesting that if anyone else loses with a lot of talent, it's because they choked massively or coached poorly. But in Calipari's case, it's "winning titles is hard."

And I have no idea how you got the idea that I was trying to compare 2019 Duke to 2018 Kentucky.
 
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What had Barnes done? He beat us twice. I guess being co champions with auburn in the sec translates to kicking ass.

Well, he took over a crappy program with little talent and won the league in year 3, then finished above Kentucky and Auburn this year.

Oh, and he's 6-4 vs Calipari.
 
Well, he took over a crappy program with little talent and won the league in year 3, then finished above Kentucky and Auburn this year.

Oh, and he's 6-4 vs Calipari.
"Kicking ass" usually involves at least making the elite eight. Barnes has done well at UTjr, but has only won 3 tournament games in 3 years. He is most certainly not "kicking ass".
 
"Kicking ass" usually involves at least making the elite eight. Barnes has done well at UTjr, but has only won 3 tournament games in 3 years. He is most certainly not "kicking ass".

I said in the SEC. I mean, you guys have been adamant about it being a good league the last few years, and he's been right at the top. With average talent.
 
"Kicking ass" usually involves at least making the elite eight. Barnes has done well at UTjr, but has only won 3 tournament games in 3 years. He is most certainly not "kicking ass".

It’s relative in terms of the programs history.

For UK elite eights or greater is the standard, prolly final fours.

That’s not the case for UT unless you think UT’s history is similar to UK’s. Obviously not.
 
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