That's not the point but this guy is rustled so badly ^ he's on ignore yet keeps responding to me Laughing
Juzang to UK
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Looks like we care about Washington recruiting.... just saying.
Can you provide any evidence of this?
I don’t know a single person who was devastated by it. Maybe it would’ve been a bigger deal if they didn’t get the record.
I think his reading ability is as fake as his wife
He committed to UK privately last week.. even Daniels and Bossi say it .... Not my fault the kid is second guessing himself
I'm not spending 100$ a year to have Rivals ban me for sharing too much HOB info......... ( if your post wasnt sarcasm then sorry for misunderstanding but I'm pretty sure I smell needless sarcasm) of course now that its been 2 days I feel ok telling more which I did about him Committing to UK last week especially since its already out there in social media and other sites.
Whereas the Big 12 only have 10! They should rename it to either the smaller Big 12 or the Second Big 10.
So I have to answer this question again? I already answered it.
So THIS is where you choose to pick your battle? Arguing over a kid being a 4 or a 5? You?
With your reputation on here, you should really start picking better battles.
When did I say "devastated"???? Please enlighten me.
Every KU fan on here was worried the streak was going to end when KU started struggling in league play and when it was obvious the streak was over, every one of you guys was bothered by it.
Bothered/bummed does not equal devastated.
Nice try, not surprised you would try to pull that, but nice try.
LOL @ you clowns.
So your point is that KU fans were disappointed that the 14 year streak came to an end (and likely due to absent players).
So...should it have been celebrated? Brushed off like it was just another day?
None of this damages my point that the average KU fan didn’t overvalue the streak, as has been claimed again and again.
You guys really reach to try to make some weak ass points.
So your point is that KU fans were disappointed that the 14 year streak came to an end (and likely due to absent players).
So...should it have been celebrated? Brushed off like it was just another day?
None of this damages my point that the average KU fan didn’t overvalue the streak, as has been claimed again and again.
You guys really reach to try to make some weak ass points.
And btw, I believe to just about any human being “completely bothered and upset” is synonymous with devastated.
But I know you have your own special thesaurus that is a little different than the rest.
But I know you have your own special thesaurus that is a little different than the rest.
We're not reaching, we just have to answer your multiple questions about the same thing, making it appear that we are over dramatizing it.
Then you do what you always do, change descriptive words to make them fit your agenda. Bummed does not equal devastated.
All I said was KU fans were bummed, you turned Bummed into devastated, so you could then turn around and act like us UK fans made a huge thing out of it.
You're too easy to read. Drop the UK hate and you would be a better poster.
And we know you love to post this drivel because you look at everything through Jayhawk colored glasses.
Link #1....https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/
Link #2 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/230222/johnny-juzang
Link #3
Here’s 3 damn links saying he’s a 4* recruit. What more do you need?
I don’t give a rats ass what he was last month in a different class. The kid UK signed this year is a 4* recruit.
Wait, @Rupp'sRunt missed another prediction????? Say it ain’t so, I was really rooting for his sources this time.
Or just let them have the Big Ten, and the current Big Ten changes to the Big 14.
And here is a source that rates him a 5 star recruit.
Five-star Johnny Juzang has committed to play for the University of Kentucky, the Harvard-Westlake (Calif.) wing announced on Friday.
Juzang reclassified into the class of 2019 last week.
Juzang is ranked as the No. 21 player in the 2019 class on the 247Sports Composite. The 6'6" wing chose Kentucky over Kansas, Oregon and Virginia.
The good thing is he is much closer to a 5 star recruit than your 4 star recruit.
If you conducted a Family Feud-style poll asking for a one-word synonym for “completely bothered and upset,” about 90% would say devastated.
But I’m not gonna waste all day arguing about this. Keep on truckin.
KU can win the Big 12 every freakin' year for all I care... It obviously doesn't equate to much else as far as overall success is concerned.
That’s not the argument. I can accept that UNC signed a 4* recruit that will be at UNC for 3-4 years.
Roy has had great success with similar kids.
It’s the UK fans that have a hard time dealing with him being a 4* kid.
Why do you care so much?
Tyler Herro and Shai Gilgeous Alexander were 4 star players also. So maybe you might understand the excitement. Juzang is a really good shooter with great measurables. If you understood that, you would get the excitement.
But still, why are you so chapped about it?
Herro was a 4*, so was SGA, I believe. Who the hell cares? Skal was a 5* and never looked like one.
The question is.... why was it so hard to admit? Only reason I brought it up is because UNC fans were mocked for making a thread about a 4* recruit.
Yeah, just the most tourney wins in the nation this century.
You're a real hockey puck, aren't you?
Your argument seems to be premised on elite prospects not improving (or not as much as "run-of-the-mill freshmen"), which is counterfactual. They're elite prospects because of their potential. And there have been some very impressive seasons from UK's freshmen under Cal (Wall, Cousins, , but a lot of OADs were not all that impressive on a production basis (i.e. winning basketball in their lone season in college):
- Kevin Knox, 17.0 PER (average is 15.0), drafted #9 (!!!) overall. Was that based on his production?
- Hamidou Diallo, 13.8 PER, drafted 45 overall
- EJ Montgomery, 15.5 PER, potentially OAD
- Skal, 18.5 PER (that really overstated his impact), drafted in the first round
- Marquis Teague, 13.2 PER, drafted in the first round
Your entire argument is premised on: 1) player is highly ranked because of athletic potential; 2) player is later drafted based on said athletic potential; and 3) therefore player was productive in his single season in college. But that does not hold up in many (and even looking at only 5* recruits' freshmen seasons, most) instances. You compound the error by then attributing that to the entire team, which ignores the benefits of continuity and the ability to implement more schemes/plays/defenses.
Yes, it is a bad strategy to only have freshmen, but that doesn't make Cal a "moron" because the answer to your rhetorical question is that Cal has tried to "mix in more multi-year players." SGA, Herro, Ulis, Matthews, Mulder, Bledsoe, Lamb, Poole, Wiltjer, Mays, Harrow, Hood, WCS, Willis, Booker, Hawkins, Quade, Wynyard, Quickley, Baker, etc... are those guys. And even assuming that Cal has created a situation in which players feel or are forced out (either as OAD or transfers) after a year, he still wouldn't be a "moron" b/c his strategy has, on the whole, been wildly successful by any metric (and before your "all that talent and only one title" BS, and it is BS, consider also that he's lost more talent than anyone else during that whole time and had the youngest team in the nation on a rolling average basis).
Look, you're obviously dug in on your counterfactual beliefs, which based on your posts seems to stem from taking overly enthusiastic UK fans at face value (90% choosing Fox over Mason) and ad absurdum arguments ("let's not pretend like Cal never has a sophomore Washington or Reid Travis"), so I'm going to bow out with reality on my side.
...and only 3 titles....KU has mastered the act of looking great almost every year until a Bucknell, VCU or Northern Iowa comes along.
A PER number might be a helpful tool but it doesn't tell the whole story. Especially for the sort of player we're talking about, because they tend to make drastic improvement by the end of the season. We've seen Kentucky teams go from struggling to beat low majors to blowing out high majors by the end of the year.
Skal and Montgomery (who probably won't even leave) are exceptions. I could go down the list of players drafted under Cal...the vast majority were very productive college players. Many among the best in the country by any standard. The fact that they hadn't reached their potential yet doesn't mean that they weren't very good relative to the competition. And what's often ignored is that they typically have 4 and 5-star vets buried on the bench who would start for 90% of teams.
Kentucky has high preseason rankings and expectations every year for a reason.
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Last I checked, we're talking about this century. Y'know, the one that includes the streak we were talking about. And Kentucky has the same number of titles in that period.
I know it's hard for you to stay on point, but 40s/50s titles have nothing to do with the streak or recent tourney success. What's a little more relevant is that KU has more final fours than Kentucky in the modern era, 1 fewer title, and about 100 more wins.
If KU has sucked in the modern era, so has Kentucky. Sorry, partner.
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Timeframing = Loser's argument..... hence, you lose.
8 > 3
UK > KU. Always has been. Take your little hate chub for UK somewhere else. You look silly 'punching up' at a superior program.
Aside from the last 3 decades, sure.
Go flex your little middle aged bicep somewhere else. No one cares. The only thing that looks "silly" is the idea that Rupp's success makes you more likely to win a title in the future. But I know that logic isn't your forte.
Tradition is relative to ALL TIME. I know that concept eludes you, but Rupp laid the foundation for the Blue Blood UK program that remains today. Dissect all you want, it's just noise from an insignificant detractor.
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