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I said UNC had some issues on the academic side of things, though they were bad they weren't as bad as the hyperbole surrounding them. Still, there were some issues. That isn't what you guys want it to be about though.
Great, so what did JC say that was false? What do we "want it to be?" UNC got off, and no one is calling for the investigation to be reopened. We are just stating the facts that your school cheated academically for a very long time.

"There were some issues." Like your chancellor admitting to academic fraud?
 
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Great, so what did JC say that was false? What do we "want it to be?"

"There were some issues." Like your chancellor admitting to academic fraud?

Well, the loophole comment is false. I explained it a few pages back even though I said I wouldn't. The 'Carolina Way' being lost is false. Him saying we act like nothing happened is false. We just refuse to let people like you who don't know what you are talking about control the narrative. See, you won't acknowledge any of this for two reasons. One, a lot of it is two opinions contrasting so both sides can claim they are correct. Two, you don't know as much about it as we do. Again, that is to be expected. Just stop acting like you do...or keep acting like you do. Whatever you need to do, man.
 
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So once again, you can't name a single thing that he said that was false? Thats exactly what I thought, since everything he said was 100% the truth.

Your argument when confronted with facts is basically "NU UH!!!!". It is pathetic. Either come with facts or keep looking like a moron.


Reading is difficult for you huh? Read my previous posts. SOS = Stuck on Stupid.
 
I’ve learned two things from starting this thread.
1. UK fans don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
2. Scotty is a pussy
 
Well, the loophole comment is false. I explained it a few pages back even though I said I wouldn't. The 'Carolina Way' being lost is false. Him saying we act like nothing happened is false. We just refuse to let people like you who don't know what you are talking about control the narrative. See, you won't acknowledge any of this for two reasons. One, a lot of it is two opinions contrasting so both sides can claim they are correct. Two, you don't know as much about it as we do. Again, that is to be expected. Just stop acting like you do...or keep acting like you do. Whatever you need to do, man.
How is the loophole statement false? The only reason the NCAA didn't punish your basketball program is because non-student atheletes were also in the classes.

The "Carolina Way" includes academic fraud now. If it's not lost, its severely tarnished. The " Carolina Way" was supposed to refer to doing things the right way, correct? In what world are sham classes doing things the right way?

You literally have multiple fans of your team in this thread saying that academic fraud never occurred. That is the definition of acting "like nothing happened".

And what do you base the comment "you don't know as much about it as we do". Do you have access to some sort of super secret facts as a UNC fan that the rest of us don't? This comment has zero basis in reality.
 
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Go back a page genius. You really suck at this.
You have absolutely not answered my question as to what JC said that was false. Jesus, its like I'm talking to a rock. Its a simple question that you keep avoiding, because he didn't make a false statement.
 
And the rock is telling you your answer is on the previous page. The more you post about this the more stupid you become.
I think a rock would probably be better at having a conversation than you.

I'm not going to read 20 pages. You can either answer my question by replying to me (which you have failed to do, continuously) or just admit you dont have anything to say.
 
How is the loophole statement false? The only reason the NCAA didn't punish your basketball program is because non-student atheletes were also in the classes.

The "Carolina Way" includes academic fraud now. If it's not lost, its severely tarnished. The " Carolina Way" was supposed to refer to doing things the right way, correct? In what world are sham classes doing things the right way?

You literally have multiple fans of your team in this thread saying that academic fraud never occurred. That is the definition of acting "like nothing happened".

And what do you base the comment "you don't know as much about it as we do". Do you have access to some sort of super secret facts as a UNC fan that the rest of us don't? This comment has zero basis in reality.


How is the loophole false? Because you say so? Again we’re not moving from this so you clowns can keep talking and we’ll continue to give you the same answers.
 
I think a rock would probably be better at having a conversation than you.

I'm not going to read 20 pages. You can either answer my question by replying to me (which you have failed to do, continuously) or just admit you dont have anything to say.


I said the previous page, damn RollLaugh
 
How is the loophole false? Because you say so? Again we’re not moving from this so you clowns can keep talking and we’ll continue to give you the same answers.
Because the NCAA stated that it was out of their jurisdiction due to the fact that the classes were available to non-student athletes. That is the very definition of a loop hole.

I thought you guys were supposed to know more about this situation than us?
 
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How is the loophole statement false? The only reason the NCAA didn't punish your basketball program is because non-student atheletes were also in the classes.

The "Carolina Way" includes academic fraud now. If it's not lost, its severely tarnished. The " Carolina Way" was supposed to refer to doing things the right way, correct? In what world are sham classes doing things the right way?

You literally have multiple fans of your team in this thread saying that academic fraud never occurred. That is the definition of acting "like nothing happened".

And what do you base the comment "you don't know as much about it as we do". Do you have access to some sort of super secret facts as a UNC fan that the rest of us don't? This comment has zero basis in reality.
The ncaa didn’t punish UNC because taking the AFAM class wasn’t an impermissible benefit. It wasn’t an IB because athletes were treated the same as regular students.
It absolutely positively had nothing to do with just regular students being in the class. The % of regular students was higher than athletes in the classes.
 
Because the NCAA stated that it was out of the jurisdiction due to the fact that the classes were available to non-student athletes. That is the very definition of a loop hole.

I thought you guys were supposed to know more about this situation than us?


We do. You’re just to stupid realize it. Your opinion won’t change, ours won’t, the NCAA’s won’t but you fools act like you’re going to move the needle, for what I don’t even know.
 
We do. You’re just to stupid realize it. Your opinion won’t change, ours won’t, the NCAA’s won’t but you fools act like you’re going to move the needle, for what I don’t even know.
How am I acting like I'm going to move the needle?
UNC got off, and no one is calling for the investigation to be reopened. We are just stating the facts that your school cheated academically for a very long time
I'm just stating what actually happened in the real world. You can keep thinking people who acknowledge what actually took place (with freaking news articles to back it up) are stupid. It just makes you look like a pathetic loser whose self-esteem is tied to his sports team.
 
The ncaa didn’t punish UNC because taking the AFAM class wasn’t an impermissible benefit. It wasn’t an IB because athletes were treated the same as regular students.
It absolutely positively had nothing to do with just regular students being in the class. The % of regular students was higher than athletes in the classes.


If it hadn’t been for Sankey who amended the original NOA this would of got done a lot sooner. Emmeret said initially this was a academic issue so when Sankey got personally involved and he wanted blood. UNC called him on it and the rest is history.
 
Global doesn’t have a clue and Scotty, he can’t help who he is.
You have brought nothing to this thread at all. At least Cornfly snd UNCfan bring something to the discussion, all you do is either jump on what one of the other guys said or you post crap like this.
 
How am I acting like I'm going to move the needle?

I'm just stating what actually happened in the real world. You can keep thinking people who acknowledge what actually took place (with freaking news articles to back it up) are stupid. It just makes you look like a pathetic loser whose self-esteem is tied to his sports team.


You’re pathetic because you’re arguing over something that’s been settled. Laughing
 
The ncaa didn’t punish UNC because taking the AFAM class wasn’t an impermissible benefit. It wasn’t an IB because athletes were treated the same as regular students.
It absolutely positively had nothing to do with just regular students being in the class. The % of regular students was higher than athletes in the classes.
The REASON the class wasn't an impermissible benefit is because it was available to non-atheletes as well. How can you guys not wrap your brains around that absolutely concrete fact?
 
You have brought nothing to this thread at all. At least Cornfly snd UNCfan bring something to the discussion, all you do is either jump on what one of the other guys said or you post crap like this.


Yes I have Jeffery. All you guys have serious butthurt over this and you’re mad because we are not giving you what you wanna hear.
 
If it hadn’t been for Sankey who amended the original NOA this would of got done a lot sooner. Emmeret said initially this was a academic issue so when Sankey got personally involved and he wanted blood. UNC called him on it and the rest is history.
They don’t understand there was no loophole. The AFAM class was never on the table for discussion with the NCAA.
The NCAA looked to see if student athletes were getting impermissible benefits that regular students weren’t getting & they ruled that they were t.
 
The ncaa didn’t punish UNC because taking the AFAM class wasn’t an impermissible benefit. It wasn’t an IB because athletes were treated the same as regular students.
It absolutely positively had nothing to do with just regular students being in the class. The % of regular students was higher than athletes in the classes.
And UNC knew that by allowing regular students to take the AFAM (sham) class that they created a get out of jail free card, IE, the loophole.
 
You’re pathetic because you’re arguing over something that’s been settled. Laughing
You are correct. Everything that I have said has been settled as fact.

You literally post nothing of substance. As kyjeff1 said, at least some of the other UNC fans have something resembling an argument. Perhaps you could ask them for tutoring?
 
Well, the loophole comment is false. I explained it a few pages back even though I said I wouldn't. The 'Carolina Way' being lost is false. Him saying we act like nothing happened is false. We just refuse to let people like you who don't know what you are talking about control the narrative. See, you won't acknowledge any of this for two reasons. One, a lot of it is two opinions contrasting so both sides can claim they are correct. Two, you don't know as much about it as we do. Again, that is to be expected. Just stop acting like you do...or keep acting like you do. Whatever you need to do, man.
How is it that you know more about the this than anyone else? We were all given the same information. Please explain how you know more about it than we do.
 
I guess the concept of 'owning' what happened has either eluded you UNC guys or you're just gonna stick with denial. Again, that's ok. I appreciate how strongly you defend your program.
 
The REASON the class wasn't an impermissible benefit is because it was available to non-atheletes as well. How can you guys not wrap your brains around that absolutely concrete fact?
Not only was it available to regular students, they outnumbered athletes in the class.
Why the hell do you keep calling that a loophole?
Don’t regular students outnumber athletes in every class at UK? Is that a loophole?
 
You are correct. Everything that I have said has been settled as fact.

You literally post nothing of substance. As kyjeff1 said, at least some of the other UNC fans have something resembling an argument. Perhaps you could ask them for tutoring?

You need the tutoring. I been posting facts not opinions, big difference.
 
Not only was it available to regular students, they outnumbered athletes in the class.
Why the hell do you keep calling that a loophole?
Don’t regular students outnumber athletes in every class at UK? Is that a loophole?


I said the same exact thing but they see what they wanna see.
 
Not only was it available to regular students, they outnumbered athletes in the class.
Why the hell do you keep calling that a loophole?
Don’t regular students outnumber athletes in every class at UK? Is that a loophole?
Imagine that, the majority of the students in the class weren't from .001% of the student population.

If non-athletes had not been in the class, UNC would have been hammered. By adding non-athletes to classes they removed the impermissible benefit. That is called a loophole.
 
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And UNC knew that by allowing regular students to take the AFAM (sham) class that they created a get out of jail free card, IE, the loophole.
I believe one of you brought up the Weinstein report, correct?
It clearly states that AFAM classes WERE NOT created for athletes.
 
They don’t understand there was no loophole. The AFAM class was never on the table for discussion with the NCAA.
The NCAA looked to see if student athletes were getting impermissible benefits that regular students weren’t getting & they ruled that they were t.
You just contradicted yourself. Read the two bolded statements. The loophole is the second bolded sentence.
UNC knew what they were doing, heck, a toddler could have figured that one out. They simply opened the doors of the sham class up to regular students.
How are you not understanding that?
 
I believe one of you brought up the Weinstein report, correct?
It clearly states that AFAM classes WERE NOT created for athletes.
The Weinstein report was brought up when one of your fans said that academic fraud never occurred. No one is arguing for (at least that I've seen) the NCAA to go back and punish you guys, we are arguing for you guys to admit you committed widespread academic fraud with your athletes (and non-athletes) for years. Why is that so hard for you guys to get through your heads?
 
I guess the concept of 'owning' what happened has either eluded you UNC guys or you're just gonna stick with denial. Again, that's ok. I appreciate how strongly you defend your program.


Again, for someone that don’t care you UK guys are all up in this thread. Call it whatever you want, it’s not going to matter. It absolutely pisses you off we’ve taken this stance and I’m enjoying the hell out of it.
 
The Weinstein report was brought up when one of your fans said that academic fraud never occurred. No one is arguing for (at least that I've seen) the NCAA to go back and punish you guys, we are arguing for you guys to admit you committed widespread academic fraud with your athletes (and non-athletes) for years. Why is that so hard for you guys to get through your heads?


Sounds like you’re mad Junior, Good!!!
 
Again, for someone that don’t care you UK guys are all up in this thread. Call it whatever you want, it’s not going to matter. It absolutely pisses you off we’ve taken this stance and I’m enjoying the hell out of it.
No one is pissed. We just think its hilarious how you guys wont own up to what your school did.
 
Not only was it available to regular students, they outnumbered athletes in the class.
Why the hell do you keep calling that a loophole?
Don’t regular students outnumber athletes in every class at UK? Is that a loophole?
Duh, but the difference is, this was a sham class and it was created to keep athletes eligible, but regular students took advantage of it too. It was not a real class dude.
Real instructors of real courses don't give out grades when no work was done.
Real professors don't write papers or do the work for their students just to get them to pass. The curriculum was fake.
The bigger problem is, with the class being fake, all the students that took the class thought they were getting a real degree, but they didn't. Now those credits are no good because the curriculum wasn't up to par according to SACS.
That is why 380 students and alumni were offered a replacement class to take.
You simply cannot defend this from UNC's side of the fence.
 
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