Agreed. My wife has made me mad before, so I have to believe that women can make any man mad.
If I'm coming out of the store like the shover did, I'd hear what the shooter had to say based on how wives can sometimes be. 
Watch it again, man. Any boyfriend/husband wouldn’t have time to think at that point. Your adrenaline would be pumping watching another man get in your girls face. Like I have said, the old guy was looking to shoot someone.Agreed. My wife has made me mad before, so I have to believe that women can make any man mad.
Maybe she started nagging him too. It can grate on any sane man. I guess the shover's wife has never shown an incidence of irritating someone and was perfect. That would be the only way to justify shoving someone down that hard without inquiring first.
He pushed him without exchanging words. People handle situations differently. I personally, don't blame him for shoving the guy to the ground. Regardless of her being parked in a handicapped space, the shooter was out of line engaging in an argument with a woman, especially with children present. He got what he wanted (an opportunity to kill someone) hopefully he gets the Dahmer treatment in prison.
Check this article out. This is not his first run in with people on the road. I’m telling you, dude gets off on trying to have fights like this. There’s a pattern there that can’t be ignored.
I largely agree with you. But I don’t think there’s any doubt he was looking for a reason to shoot someone. This was what he thought was his perfect opportunity to get away with it. Fortunately he was wrong.
That guy practiced for that moment. He watched too many fake cop shows.
Meh, maybe. Everyone reacts different. And really, it depends on the situation. I as working an AAU basketball tourney, and after the game some dude was yacking at my wife. Now, he wasn t screaming...But his voiced was raised. I see this, and immediately get to her. BUT...on my way, I'm telling myself--" Easy, brother. Easy." When I get to her, I say , and calmy, but with conviction--" can I help you?" He just replied ---" Nope". That was that . But look, I get it. Not everyone is a cool as me..
The victim should have got some recognition for volunteering to become the shooter's only victim, which is super-friendly of him. Had he not come out and instantly shoved the shooter, he might not have made the news, but now they're both famous. Nice of the shover to be so reactive that it promoted both of them out of their lives of obscurity.
I fully disagree. There is no reason to believe that the victim was hostile. Your only reason to feel that way is based off of this one situation where the man was reacting to a stranger berating his wife. He was rightfully defending his family. Fvck the piece of shit that killed him.
You can defend your family without using violence. The guy didn't have his wife/gf, in a headlock. Wasn't punching her..Grabbing her, etc..Just yelling. I'm not condoning the shooting. But the victim certainly could habe handled the situation differently. Odds are, had he not shoved the guy, he doesn't get shot.
Anyone can step back from the situation and look at it the way you describe. There’s no way in the heat of the moment you will be able to think like this. Some old man, not woman, is in the face of your girlfriend/wife. While she is sitting in your family’s car with children.
Ya see, that's part of today's problem: Knee jerk reactions. Again, not condoning the shooting. It was wrong. Dude belongs in jail.
Again, what you are saying is logical. My argument is you have no time to think logically in a situation like this. If the guy had time to type out the smartest move for the situation, he would probably be alive. But no one has the ability to slow down time or adrenaline, ya know? Guy is in your wife’s face, again, with YOUR KIDS in the car. Your first instinct is not to take the time and efforts to figure out the safest way to approach the situation.
I agree. There was a point that this escalated beyond words. When the guy shoved the shooter there was very little chance it was going to end as a disagreement. The boyfriend decided to make it physical. He gambled. He lost. Don't escalate things by putting your hands on someone. We're all safer with these 2 off the streets . . . whether you like it or not.
Just what I told my wife. Two hotheads, colliding. That never ends good.
Then that's on you. It's different if you come out and it's a physical altercation..Or if he's trying to get in the car...Or if he's already branded a weapon . But none of that was the case. He was simply yelling. Kids and wife were in the car. As a husband , I get to them ASAP. BUT...i don't put my hands on the guy. Again, that's just me. It's how I am.
I don't blame the guy. I 100% see why he did. Just a bad situation. To me, the guy who pushed the dude, was probably just as much as a hothead, as the dude who did the shooting; Just a tad bit more mentally stable though.
You only have this situation to base that off of. I don't think it is fair to label him a hothead based off of a single reactionary event.
Very true. As Mike Tyson said, when fighters preparing to fight him..."Everyone has a plan, till they get punched "..
Yeah, but we can also say "well, if the victim didn’t go to the store that day, he doesn't get shot".
I agree with all of that, but the punishment (death), doesn't fit the crime (a push). That's what we're arguing here. The shooter was not in a life or death situation.
