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At least as many times as it takes for Iowa to win a national championship......How many times does the SEC have to beat a conference to be considered better?
Yes....Pitt, Louisville and UConn. One made the FF---UConn. Overall the BE had two FF teams---Nova being the other as a 3 seed. MSU, a 2 seed, beat two, # 1 seeds, both from the BE: Louisville in the Elite 8. UConn in the FF.Didn't the Big East get 3 #1 seeds in 09 though??
It's not even very close either.The Big 10 is the premier basketball conference in the country
Yes....Pitt, Louisville and UConn. One made the FF---UConn. Overall the BE had two FF teams---Nova being the other as a 3 seed. MSU, a 2 seed, beat two, # 1 seeds, both from the BE: Louisville in the Elite 8. UConn in the FF.
Big East had.7 NCAA bids----Three #1 seeds...Two #3 seeds...Two #6 seeds.
Four of those 7 advanced to the ELite 8----UL, Nova, Uconn and Pitt.
Probably enough to offset the suck it’s done elsewhere.How many times does the SEC have to beat a conference to be considered better?
The SEC beat the Big 12 with one kentucky tied behind it's back.Probably enough to offset the suck it’s done elsewhere.
Same old, same old...BFD, consistently "the" or "a" top conference but how many championships does the Big Ten have in the past 30 years?
Not sure what this ever has to do with anything....The best team doesn't always come from the best conference....Nor does the best conference always produce the best team.Same old, same old...BFD, consistently "the" or "a" top conference but how many championships does the Big Ten have in the past 30 years?
But the best conference puts more teams in the tournament more often and should have better odds of producing a champion. It means the conference is consistently overrated if the best it can do over 30 years is produce only one national champion. Even the PAC-12, which is consistently 4th - 6th has more than one championship in that time period.Not sure what this ever has to do with anything....The best team doesn't always come from the best conference....Nor does the best conference always produce the best team.
But the best conference puts more teams in the tournament more often and should have better odds of producing a champion. It means the conference is consistently overrated if the best it can do over 30 years is produce only one national champion. Even the PAC-12, which is consistently 4th - 6th has more than one championship in that time period.
But the best conference puts more teams in the tournament more often and should have better odds of producing a champion. It means the conference is consistently overrated if the best it can do over 30 years is produce only one national champion. Even the PAC-12, which is consistently 4th - 6th has more than one championship in that time period.
Judging how strong a conference is on a single elimination tournament that doesn’t have an equal number of representation is one of the most potato ass things some of you rehtards say.But the best conference puts more teams in the tournament more often and should have better odds of producing a champion. It means the conference is consistently overrated if the best it can do over 30 years is produce only one national champion. Even the PAC-12, which is consistently 4th - 6th has more than one championship in that time period.
Odds ? In a one, bad night,and you are done tournament---Odds are meaningless.But the best conference puts more teams in the tournament more often and should have better odds of producing a champion. It means the conference is consistently overrated if the best it can do over 30 years is produce only one national champion. Even the PAC-12, which is consistently 4th - 6th has more than one championship in that time period.
Yeah and if y'all pick on little UK anymore, someone might start getting pissed. We all look at Uk as our younger sibling that mom made us bring with us.SEC is ranked ahead of ACC but is 0-6 vs ACC? OK
Its exponentially stupid....Take 2012 for instance...UK was a juggernaut. Best team in CBB. And did what was expected---Won the title.Judging how strong a conference is on a single elimination tournament that doesn’t have an equal number of representation is one of the most potato ass things some of you rehtards say.
Yea I was going to use the possibility of Gonzaga winning the NC. Are we going to crown WCC as the best conference? Absolute potato argumentIts exponentially stupid....Take 2012 for instance...UK was a juggernaut. Best team in CBB. And did what was expected---Won the title.
So the SEC was the best conference? Four bid league that year: UK was a 1 seed. After that?
Vandy(5 seed)---Lost in 2nd round to 4 seed Wisconsin..
Florida(7 seed)--Lost in E8 to 4 seed Louisville
Alabama(9seed)---Lost in 1st round to 8 seed Creighton.
SEC best conference, right? Produced title winner....
So the Big Ten is an elite conference because it has more good teams top to bottom more often but no excellent / top teams capable of winning a national championship...sounds more like mediocre. Just because a team wins the championship doesn't make the conference the best but the best conference, consistently top 2, should be more than capable of winning a championship more than once over 30 years.Its exponentially stupid....Take 2012 for instance...UK was a juggernaut. Best team in CBB. And did what was expected---Won the title.
So the SEC was the best conference? Four bid league that year: UK was a 1 seed. After that?
Vandy(5 seed)---Lost in 2nd round to 4 seed Wisconsin..
Florida(7 seed)--Lost in E8 to 4 seed Louisville
Alabama(9seed)---Lost in 1st round to 8 seed Creighton.
SEC best conference, right? Produced title winner....
So the Big Ten is an elite conference because it has more good teams top to bottom more often but no excellent / top teams capable of winning a national championship...sounds more like mediocre. Just because a team wins the championship doesn't make the conference the best but the best conference, consistently top 2, should be more than capable of winning a championship once over 30 years.
Sure there fella----This season is taking its toll on you guys---I get that. So we can chalk this up to anxiety.So the Big Ten is an elite conference because it has more good teams top to bottom more often but no excellent / top teams capable of winning a national championship...sounds more like mediocre. Just because a team wins the championship doesn't make the conference the best but the best conference, consistently top 2, should be more than capable of winning a championship once over 30 years.
SEC in that span has had 2 teams play in the title game: UK and Florida. Which is no surprise. Those two have longed carried the SEC.
Whats crazy is this....It'd be nice to see another SEC team step up. Auburn and LSU would probably have it vacated, and UT only cares about playing UK.
Tenn has been to ONE Elite 8: 2010. Only 8, SW 16 teams.
Auburn has 2 ELite 8's: 1986, 2019. A mere 5, SW 16's.
Tenn and Auburn have a combined 3, ELite 8's---And Bruce Pearl is responsible for 2 of them. Pearl is also responsible for AU's only FF..
LSU has the talent---has had it. Just shitty coaches.
I thought White was gonna return Florida to the days of Bily ball....Nope.
Oats will get Bama rolling---Only problem, he'll leave eventually...Maybe Kentucky.
"The Big 10 over the years has had some really, really fantastic teams, more than capable of winning the title..." - but they didn't! Sure, but moral victories, man. Who cares. Championships matter and are an indicator of the overall strength of a conference - we'll see if Gonzaga wins this year to defeat that notion but history says they're not tested often enough after OOC to keep the edge for six games. What will be their excuse - Baylor? Or some other team that got hot like UConn in 2014? The problem is Big Ten teams are never the best, for whatever reason. Someone should be able to break through more than once every 30 years. Wisconsin gets through UK who was supposed to be the greatest ever and then loses to Duke, who was good but not UK great...Enjoy the moral victory, if that is what fans want to hang their hats on. Sound like the Kansas fan who proposed earlier this season about hanging a banner being "the best team" last season...lol.Sure there fella----This season is taking its toll on you guys---I get that. So we can chalk this up to anxiety.
But a quick question-----
If Gonzaga wins the natty---Does that make the WCC, the best conference?
Since 2000, the Big 10 has placed 6 different teams in the title game: MSU,OSU, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan and Illinois. Unfortunate that those teams ran into some really, really great teams..
Illinois in 2005 was as good of a team that CBB has seen...Really good. Only thing, 2005 UNC was even better.
OSU in 2007....35-4. Conley and Oden. But, well they ran into a Florida team that rreturned all 5 dudes off their 2006 title team...
MSU in 2009---31-6. Very good. National title good. But, well, there was one problem: North Carolina. Another Williams monster..
Wisky in 2015---Possibly the most efficient offensive team ever...And just as good defensively. 36-4. Only team to beat UK...But, well, there was Duke. This game is the ONLY game listed where I felt the B10 might have had the best team...But Duke was nasty , good.
Michigan in 2018---Very good. But, well,there was that Villanova team---again.
Do some research man...Just don't throw shit at the wall----trying to act as if you know something. You don't know a third of what you think you do. The Big 10 overthe years has had some really, really fantastic teams, more than capable of winning the title...
SEC in that span has had 2 teams play in the title game: UK and Florida. Which is no surprise. Those two have longed carried the SEC.
Yeah, sure-----Championships indicate how good a TEAM is..---It has zero bearing on how good the conference is..."The Big 10 over the years has had some really, really fantastic teams, more than capable of winning the title..." - but they didn't! Sure, but moral victories, man. Who cares. Championships matter and are an indicator of the overall strength of a conference - we'll see if Gonzaga wins this year to defeat that notion but history says they're not tested often enough after OOC to keep the edge for six games. What will be their excuse - Baylor? Or some other team that got hot like UConn in 2014? The problem is Big Ten teams are never the best, for whatever reason. Someone should be able to break through more than once every 30 years. Wisconsin gets through UK who was supposed to be the greatest ever and then loses to Duke, who was good but not UK great...Enjoy the moral victory, if that is what fans want to hang their hats on. Sound like the Kansas fan who proposed earlier this season about hanging a banner being "the best team" last season...lol.
Sure there fella----This season is taking its toll on you guys---I get that. So we can chalk this up to anxiety.
But a quick question-----
If Gonzaga wins the natty---Does that make the WCC, the best conference?
Since 2000, the Big 10 has placed 6 different teams in the title game: MSU,OSU, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan and Illinois. Unfortunate that those teams ran into some really, really great teams..
Illinois in 2005 was as good of a team that CBB has seen...Really good. Only thing, 2005 UNC was even better.
OSU in 2007....35-4. Conley and Oden. But, well they ran into a Florida team that rreturned all 5 dudes off their 2006 title team...
MSU in 2009---31-6. Very good. National title good. But, well, there was one problem: North Carolina. Another Williams monster..
Wisky in 2015---Possibly the most efficient offensive team ever...And just as good defensively. 36-4. Only team to beat UK...But, well, there was Duke. This game is the ONLY game listed where I felt the B10 might have had the best team...But Duke was nasty , good.
Michigan in 2018---Very good. But, well,there was that Villanova team---again.
Do some research man...Just don't throw shit at the wall----trying to act as if you know something. You don't know a third of what you think you do. The Big 10 overthe years has had some really, really fantastic teams, more than capable of winning the title...
SEC in that span has had 2 teams play in the title game: UK and Florida. Which is no surprise. Those two have longed carried the SEC.
It's like being a Bengals fan and bragging about how deep the AFC is.
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