Agent Zero Makes Harsh Allegations About One of the Top ACC Schools

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  1. MrBaracus

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    I don't think anybody has said that.

    Just saying that virtually no elite teenaged athlete cares about ancient history or if a program has a couple more final fours. They care about the coach, the state of the program, playing time, exposure, facilities, the campus/town, and, of course, moolah.
     
  2. JimboBBN

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    I agree with you.. but I was responding to a point that academics matter when recruiting elite kids. It does not.
     
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    It's a good thing UK offers History, Final Fours AND all the other stuff you listed, except, of course, "moolah". :D
     
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    Probably why they can’t make it to Final Fours anymore.
     
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  5. MrBaracus

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    [​IMG]
     
  6. schoonerwest

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    I’ve read this like 3 times and I still can’t understand what you’re trying to say.

    I think I might understand. But then I read it again and say to myself what?
     
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  7. lurkeraspect84

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    4 in the past 10 years isn't so bad. :D
     
  8. schoonerwest

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    5 years is a long time to not even have a top 5 team once.
     
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    Top 5 team?

    Also is 5 years the new "modern era"?
     
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  10. schoonerwest

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    I just looked at Kentucky’s past few teams on Wikipedia. Not impressed.
     
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    OK. There's nothing wrong with opinions. BTW, was the record breaking 38-1 2015 FF team not in the last 5 years? 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019....2020 hasn't happened.
     
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    since you are into facts
    please link where it states that Bam or any of his family received money (i have asked this before of you and you are yet to provide that link)

    is sounds like your assumption is more marsh mellow then concrete
     
  13. schoonerwest

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    I agree. :confused:
     
  14. schoonerwest

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    What about his I just found on google?

    • A listing that refers to “BAM” for $12,000 is later identified in the documents as Edrice “Bam” Adebayo, who would go on to play at Kentucky in 2016-17. He did not sign with ASM. There’s a later reference to Adebayo that says he received $36,500. “Bad loan,” reads the document.
     
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    I was wondering how long this thread would become about UK. I expected it and I'm sure the Duke fans love it. Laughing

    But go on.
     
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  16. schoonerwest

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    Low hanging fruit on a Friday night. That’s all.
     
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    I understand. When UK is mentioned it's a big deal. If they are the headline they're talked about, if they're not the headline(ie this thread), they're talked about. It feeds the ego.

    It's to be expected and it's great entertainment.
     
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  18. schoonerwest

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    It’s not about the program, it’s about the posters. Always remember that. Winking
     
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  19. lurkeraspect84

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    We do have a lot of fans. No doubt.
     
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    You’re one of my favorites. I’m gonna end up calling you one day. Pretty sure I have your number saved somewhere. I will be drunk and it will be unexpected.
     
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    Same w/ you, and I'll keep an eye out for a Texas area code. 432?

    Also, if you don't have my number,you have my email from the yttv thing.
     
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    Only dumbass schools offer money. Get somebody else to pay your players----its cheaper!
     
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    Meh...Maybe. I mean, if that common, we'd hear much more. Gilbert Arenas has been out of the league since 2012. But he knows that 2 current Dukies, that got paid? Meh...Ok.
     
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    I mean, sure it's not as important. Especially if your an Anthony Davis, Ingram, Zion, MKG, John Wall type of dude. But even then, it's good to have some type of sense. Not every top flight kid makes it. An education would be important ..Get this...For some, academics play a role. Look at Poythtess. Dude was unreal smart. Zeller at IU. No, I don't agree it's more important. But it plays a role. A degree from.Duke can open a ton of doors. Just ask Matt Jones.Winking
     
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    Sorry. My wife was saying "we have to go!" while I was typing it, and now my enthusiasm has waned on it.

    In short; 4 seasons (one freshman-to-senior college career) ago UK almost went undefeated. The age these new commits are now (~17) would surely fall into the "lifetime" of the current kids being recruited, which is the timeline Baracus framed. It's a reach to say that Duke is the most prestigious CBB program "within their lifetime". One class ago; nearly unbeaten.

    Any kid that has played high school bball over the last 4 years has heard of UK's success, as well as KU's . . . and to imply otherwise is naive, foolish or both.

    Edit; F it anyway. UK's not the one being accused so I really shouldn't care anyway.
     
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    C'mon, now Jimbo. More titles, wins, All-Americans doesn't play a single role. You're speaking in terms of tradition. Fuc Indiana has same amount of titles as.Duke....All-Americans,.etc, etc..Kids don't give a shit about tradition. They care about getting to.the NBA. And their care is about now . Five years ago...Recent shit. Not shit from the 40's and 50's; Where UK won 4 of their 8 titles. In terms of TODAY'S game. UK doesn't offer anything that Duke cannot. Kids today, they see Duke and UK as square. Side by side. Those kids DGAF about overall wins, titles, winning percentages, etc, etc...To insinuate they do is silly.
     
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    Prove it, clown show.
     
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    Gotcha.

    I don’t think he was downplaying Kentucky at all. I think he was saying Duke was the top program of most recruits lifetimes. I happen to agree with him on that. They’re the best program since most of us have been alive.
     
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    Congrats on the football road win @schoonerwest ,It only took a full moon on Friday the 13th, and a palindrome date. Winking
     
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    You don't think these guys talk after they leave school? Surely, you are not that gullible.
     
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    The last thing Duke, or any other P-5 school wants is to go to court and have investigators crawling up every orifice, and go through disclosure.
     
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    Amazing how some posters here cherry pick numbers to try and make a point. 5,10,15,2,1, the 90's, the 2000's, etc. If you can not use the total history, then what is the need for record books?
     
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    It is more so the love from ESPN than anything else.
     
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    Quite the turnaround from last week. Can’t believe they could only muster 7 vs Coastal Carolina. They’d move the ball fairly well but stall every time. Seemed like they failed to convert on 4th and short about 10 times.

    Btw, how many times has a 20 point dog won the game by 20+?RollLaugh
     
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    The love from espn is justified, IMO.
     
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    Well you what they say about opinions and assholes. Everybody has one. RollLaugh
     
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    Every blue blood gets a TON of love from ESPN and other major outlets. It’s justified. People want to hear about them because they are the best.

    Also, Duke having so many titles and Final Fours in the ESPN era REALLY makes the love they receive justified.
     
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    You have it all wrong. You made the accusations. You need to prove what you said.
     
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    In the court of public opinion, no one has to prove anything. When will you get this?

    It clearly bothers you very much that people have such opinions. So....prove us wrong, clownshow.
     
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