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Discussion in 'College Basketball Board' started by dukedevilz, Mar 23, 2020.
Kansas State's program is far superior
Without a doubt. They had a lull in the 90's and early 2000's, but they've been a consistent program for the most part. Well deserving of being in the top 25.
You have done a wonderful job (with a lot or work) on this. One thing I want throw out there... Before segregation in the South a lot of SEC schools would not participate in the NCAA Tournament. Several years UK went when other schools would not. I don't know if that would impact your ratings any more than UNC creating classes for athletes and acting like they are as pure as the driven snow though.
This is true. Don't know if it would materially effect the numbers. I think Mississippi State was hit the hardest. They won the SEC in '59, '61, and '62. They didn't compete in the NCAAT in any of those years. Easily could have been a Final Four team that was competing for a national title.
Mississippi State did not win the SEC in 1962. They shared the title with UK.
Kentucky is not responsible for racism in Mississippi.
Didn't say they won it outright, but it's still an SEC Title. And I think they would have received the automatic bid, as they had the head-to-head edge on Kentucky.
Still gotta feel for that program a little. They were ranked #3 in the final poll in '59, and #4 in '62. Those are the only two years in program history where they finished in the top five. So, I think they suffered more than any other program from the segregation laws.
As I said it was not Kentucky's problem and no I don't feel for them.
Why did they turn down the invite? We know the answer. It is not UK's fault that they did not go, so they screwed themselves.
What about the other 45 UK titles?
Bailey Howell was a great player at MSU. Bama stayed home at lease once that I remember. I think... Hell, I'm old...
Well, you do have to feel sorry for the players. They were denied a trip of a lifetime. I would bet if you polled them and every individual associated with the program they didn't agree with the decisions a bunch of politicians made.
Colorado has been to 6 Elite 8's and 2 Final Fours - and they still didn't make the cut for the top 50. A pedestrian program over the course of a half century will do that to you.