It does mean a lot if they actually played. None of your returning players outside of Edwards really played consistent meaningful minutes.
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I have never said Purdue would be good this year. Lots of question marks just like IU. The only difference is in the hype by both sides. Y’all seem to think you will improve a lot and we will drop off the map. I don’t think either of those will happen and we will both be right around the same spot come March.
That’s a funny take. Green, ha ha. McBob, lmao, Fitzner, May be a good get. Davis injured. Hope you aren’t relying on those guys too much.
I’m not agreeing with you. Your reserves didn’t play meaningful minutes so it’s not a big deal they rode the pine for a team that won 30 games. Most of them didn’t really contribute to those 30 wins.
All I need now is for Da Bull to chime in and I will have my limit.
How’s that for my first cast of the season @hailtoyourvictor?
How’s that for my first cast of the season @hailtoyourvictor?
Top scorers last season:
Bold indicates returnee
Morgan 16ppg
Johnson14ppg
Davis 9.6ppg
Green 7.6ppg
Newkirk 7ppg
Smith 6.5ppg
Durham 4.8ppg
Ummm, I think you miscounted.Laughing
Man you suck at this...
Y’all want to say Purdue fans are homers and here you are, I mention Purdue possibly having a better team and y’all come running out of the woodwork.
Had fun guys. Should be a good season. Goodnight.
Uh, again, not agreeing with you. You absolutely claimed that we lost so many points prior to last year and lost so many guys. Weren’t bringing in any major contributors, blah blah blah. You said there wasn’t any reason to believe we would be any better than we were the prior year. We were projected by most to finish 10th or so. You claimed we wouldn’t finish higher than the prior year. We finished 6th. You were wrong, shocker. Not surprised you don’t remember. I wouldnt Want to remember that garbage take either.
Lol in that case 4 of your starters account for 14 ppg. We haven't even talked about the bench yet haha.
Cline, Lol. Eastern? Lulz. Eifert? LOL! None of those guys would see any minutes, none, on IU’s team this year.
Dude...Purdue lost 4 starters. 80% of, your scoring, rebounding, assists, etc, etc...And yet its homer'ish of IU fans to think its funny you think Purdue could be better?
Really?
Wow.
IU returns 5 of their top 8 scorers,rotation players. Brings in a Top 10 class; Best in Big. Adds an elite , Top 5 scoring wing. Another Top 50 recruit in Hunter. Added a lethal 3-point specialist in Fitzner.
And its IU fans who are being homers?
Laughing
Agree. Haarms and Eastern weren't asked to score because there were better, more experienced players getting the majority of the shots. It's not that hard to understand.
Also not hard to understand the skepticism on both players. Eastern has zero shot outside of 2 feet and we all saw what Haarms did when he was relied upon. Now, I would expect both to be better this year, but again, not hard to understand how some would be skeptical.
I think IU's going to be pretty good, but dude, you talk them up soooo much. Fitzner shot 40 percent from 3 (that's lethal but Mathias was streaky, ok) and scored 5 ppg for Saint Mary's. Relax.
So that makes Justin Smith/Al Durham worse? I'll take what SMith and Durham will bring opposed to Haarms/Eastern.
Might want to tell your own boys to calm the talking up of Purdue. Listening to some guys you’d think Edwards is going to be the best college player in history. Y’all are doing the same thing.
When did I say that? I have no idea how to compare the two because they are all different players. And of course you would, you're an IU fan.
Talk them up,sooooo much? When? Where? I pointed out facts. ProudPete stated we lost 3(4 if include Dvis) of our Top 5 scorers. That's false. Not even close. Acrually, IU returns 5 of their Top 8; 7 excluding Hartman, who was in and out due to injury. How's that talking them up?
As for Mathias...He shot 32 and 37% as a fresh/So. Turned it up as a Jr/Sr. Fitzner has never shot under 41%. Plus I called him lethal due to his shooting reports from practice/scrimmages. He was desribed many times as "lethal"; Believe he hit 93/100 during a drill.
Talking them up? Nope. That would be ProudPete, and his "our reserves off a 30 win team, speach".
Never said you did. And no, they're not that different. Eastern/Durham are both guards. Both will play the "2". maybe some at the 1. Eastern may see some action at the 3. Haarms and Smith are a little less comparable. But close. WOuld you rather me use Davis/Haarms? Same difference.
I don't have time to go back and look at all your posts about how good IU will be this year. If you can't even admit that you've talked them up a ton this offseason, it's pointless to discuss anything with you at this point lol
I doubt Davis even plays that much this year, so that's a meaningless comparison. But this Eastern/Haarms vs. Smith/Durham isn't even what I was talking about. It's that all you jabronis look at the ppg averages of guys like Haarms/Eastern and act like it means something. They didn't play that much and nothing was asked of them offensively because there were better, more experienced players getting the shots.
Goodness, no. A fan, on here, "talking good " about their team.
Oh the madness.
Dude, no need to look them up. I've said IU could/should compete for the Big 10. I believe I said anywhere from winning the league, to 4th.
If by "talk them up", you mean, "being better than what some think",then you'd be right. You are acting as if I've proclaimed them best in the conference...FF lock. When really all I've done is basically said---"Indiana is going to better than what most think. And they have a chacne to be really good".
What's so bad about that? I mean its not like I'm saying they have a chance to be bettr than a 30-4 team, even though they lost 4 starters. Yeah---some of your boys are sayng just that.
"Talking a team uo" is exactly what some of your brethren are doing. Lose 4 starters...gonna depend on Edwards, and a ton of role players. Yet some of your dudes are saying they could be better than last year.
Ok.
Bolded could not be more incorrect.
Ethan Happ is one of the very best defenders in the nation. Hes a two time all B1G defensive team pick.
Just two seasons ago, he both lead the B1G in steals and was also top ten in blocks. He lead the B1G in steals his first two seasons. Again, as a center.
He also had the best defensive rating on the 9th best defense in the country two seasons ago.
I don't see him shooting sub 45% inside the arc. His three-point percentage will likely dip due to volume. So his splits from the field are likely to come down, but a complete regression from the field is pretty unlikely.
Just for clarity, he'd have to have his worst college season from a shooting percentage standpoint AND never go to the foul line in order to be in the ballpark of 20 points on 23 shots.
Steals aren't always an accurate metric to judge defense by, especially when he plays half his games in the Kohl Center where he never gets called for fouls.
He also isn't very athletic, and it isn't like the Big Ten has been churning out a bunch elite centers as of late. When he faces good centers he struggles, you should know this being a Purdue fan as they've flat out owned him the past few years.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm just saying he's just not the top 20-30 player all time you're making him out to be. You're comparing him to guys like Laettner, Anthony, Karl Towns, Davis, Chalmers, Hield, Williams, Boozer, Love, O Neil ect... the list goes on and on.He's not even the best player in his own conference this year. (Edwards) Most people outside of the Big Ten don't even know who the hell he is.
Overall he's got a good post game, and is a decent rebounder. But he can't shoot, and he hides behind horribly officiated games at the Kohl Center, similar to Nigel Hayes.
thought they might fight back in Eastern's honor, but no.... meh.
Hard to know with Nojel. His numbers were ... not great.
Was his shooting hindered by his lack of playing time, inability to get into the flow of the game? Combine that with Purdue winning, he had to feel the pressure on him to get over his shooting issues.
On top of his mom going bonkers every week on an internet chat forum for fans....
I'm super curious to see what this kid has.
College basketball, any of it, is like taking a deep breath standing near honeysuckle after a late spring misty morning....
The 20 points on 23 shots was exaggerated. As I've said now, I'm guessing he is around 42% from the field and 36% from 3. I also think he is around 20 ppg.
You could say the same thing about guys that were Freshman going into their Sophomore years in just about any year under Painter. Haas looked like he was going to struggle but improved quite nicely. I wouldn't put all my bets down because of what you saw from year one. Haarms I think will be pretty good.
Gotta remember, there are only so many possessions to go around. You don't know how these guys would have done last year without Haas, Edwards, Thompson and Mathias getting most of the shots.
I think the IU guys here are making valid points. IU will definitely be much improved this year. Where some of you continue to fail is to give Painter credit where it's due. He won the B10 two years ago and had a 30 win team this year with three 3*'s and one 4* player. He tends to get more out of less. Painter as a coach needs to become a better recruiter and his X's and O's need to get better IMO, but typically he gets his guys to play over their ranking. He does have higher rated talent on this team now than he has in nearly a decade. They are young though so there will be a learning curve. Defensively this team should be pretty good. Our weakest point on D last year was Haas trying to switch on screens and he wasn't exactly a shot blocker. That's completely different with Haarms. Mathias will be missed on the perimeter, but Eastern has shown he could be a really good defender. The IU/PU matchup this year could be a very interesting one. I'd give the edge to IU offensively and the edge to PU defensively.
Common, you're better than that. Eastern definitely would. Cline as well. He's a deep threat. Eifert maybe not, but he's a solid guy. He plays hard, defends and rebounds.
I don't think he was saying better than last year. Painter came out and said there were guys that redshirt last year because there were no minutes for them. They would have contributed, but with the seniors we had, they just wouldn't have received much playing time. I'm sure they won't be as good as the seniors right off the bat, but that's saying quite a bit that they could have contributed on a very good team last year. This Purdue team should at least be more athletic than last years.
Nah. Neither would, IMO. Who would Eastern play over? Romeo? Hardly. Smith? No chance. Hunter? Maybe but not a given. McRoberts? I’d personally take McRoberts over Eastern as well. At least McRoberts can hit some outside shots. Cline? A catch and shoot guard that doesn’t play great defense isn’t something I think we need. And again, who’s he gonna play over? Romeo? Come on man. You know they wouldn't play much.
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