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Kentucky does better in merchandise sales than Duke does. No way Duke has more fans nationally than UK does.

Not sure about that. I'm sure you guys do more sales in your area... Duke doesn't have a single state on lockdown, you know? But more popular? Ehhh... but hey, even if we are second, that makes the idea that Duke doesn't bring enough fans to really create a rivalry a bit silly.
 
Not sure about that. I'm sure you guys do more sales in your area... Duke doesn't have a single state on lockdown, you know? But more popular? Ehhh... but hey, even if we are second, that makes the idea that Duke doesn't bring enough fans to really create a rivalry a bit silly.
I definitely think its Duke and Kentucky 1 and 2. I could be wrong but this discussion has been had on the board before, and if I remember correctly, Kentucky did the best of all basketball schools as far as merch sales go. Bama and Texas were 1 and 2, a couple more football schools, then Kentucky. But yea, totally agree about the not having enough fans. Duke does really well with support.
 
I definitely think its Duke and Kentucky 1 and 2. I could be wrong but this discussion has been had on the board before, and if I remember correctly, Kentucky did the best of all basketball schools as far as merch sales go. Bama and Texas were 1 and 2, a couple more football schools, then Kentucky. But yea, totally agree about the not having enough fans. Duke does really well with support.

Yeah... bandwagon support is better than no support!:)
 
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I agree with you here, though I don’t think dUKe/NC is a great rivalry, either. Each has its own issues to me.

There are a lot of Kentucky fans that cheer for both schools when they aren’t playing. There is also a valid argument that Louisville doesn’t even have the majority of fans in its own city, either. So not many people even care about them. Louisville also hasn’t won enough Championships or even games in this series to really consider it a rivalry.

While dUKe has obviously been more successful nationally and against their rival than Louisville, dUKe is very similar to Louisville in that they also don’t bring enough fans to ever have much of a real rivalry. Rivalry games also supposed to give bragging rights to a fan base for the year. In this case, these teams play at least twice and sometimes 3 times. Again, that’s not much of a rivalry to me.

The best rivalries are supposed to matter nationally. With that said, this may be one of the best rivalries currently played. However, there are a lot of rivalries that can also make that claim, too. I would think if the true blue bloods made it a point to compete against each other every year, like UK, KU, NC that those rivalries would be much more important and much bigger rivalries. UK-IU used to be one of the best, if not the best, until IU started tanking or I would’ve included them on the list.

That’s just my opinion.
Stopped reading after the 2nd dUKe.
 
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Truth bother you? UK & UL is a very good rivalry but it’s not on the same level as Carolina-Duke. The only reason the UK-UL rivalry was because of Pitino. He was worshipped just like Cal when he coached UK.
Carolina- Duke is a rivalry the NATION watches, UK-UL is a state of Ky rivalry that not many outsiders care about.
Do you honestly think Carolina-Duke would play on a Friday at noon? Hell no !!!!!!!!
 
BTW, didn't get to see if you responded in the god thread, I played SO BAD yesterday man. So did B. Rough outing.

Yeah, you guys sounded frustrated as hell. I've had a few of those recently. Me, Jungle, and Rock were SOLID... I think we lost maybe one game at the start, and didn't lose again all night. We just tore people up. Jungle caught up on some sleep!

You and me should team up tonight.
 
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Yeah, you guys sounded frustrated as hell. I've had a few of those recently. Me, Jungle, and Rock were SOLID... I think we lost maybe one game at the start, and didn't lose again all night. We just tore people up. Jungle caught up on some sleep!

You and me should team up tonight.
Its bound to happen every now and then, considering all three of us drink every night Laughing
 
Does it bother you we have the occasional two or three post conversation about video games?

Sorry man, but we can't shoot the shit during the day because we work, so sometimes we discuss games on here. No biggie, I don't think?

I guess it's better than talking about Kentucky vs Louisville in a Duke vs unc thread. It's also better than talking about the unc scandal. Carry on.
 
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Ehhhh.... the fact that Duke and UNC play against each other a few times a year as conference opponents is pretty good... gives a narrative to each year. Will one team sweep? Will they keep it even? Will one have to beat the other for a conference title? Not sure how that DIMINISHES a rivalry...

And Duke doesn't bring enough fans to be a rival? Huh? We are consistently at the top of the ranks in terms of tv viewers, merchandise sales... hell, when you Google "most popular college basketball team" Duke is literally the first team to show up. Same if you google "college basketball teams with the most fans"... first link is about Duke. In the last week of the 2017 season, Dukes merch sales were second in the country, ahead of UNC (per Forbes). In 2015, Duke had a top three revenue program in the country, 50 percent higher than UNC, and that with a 9000 seat arena (again, per Forbes.). Not sure where you are getting this... my guess is that Duke is the most popular team in the country (as well as the most hated!) You guys are generally, as a rivalry, a LOT more limited to a single state.

And Duke/UNC certainly matters nationally. There's a reason it is consistently the top rated regular season college basketball game of the year, and the winner, especially in the second game, usually takes a lead for a number one seed in the tourney. Definitely matters more than any other college basketball rivalry.

I think you are trying too hard. Louisville let's your rivalry down a bit.

Sorry it took so long to answer. The website didn’t tell me anyone responded to this thread, so I just checked.

As far as most popular, when I googled it, only the best teams and best team from each stat popped up.

A rivalry should only be played once a year, in my opinion. Any more than that and it’s just not as special because the losing team has another chance to redeem themselves within a short period of time.

As you would expect, Kentucky was number on Best Teams list, but dUKe was number 2. That was as close as I could find when I googled.

http://www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-mens-college-basketball-teams/

Unfortunately, there was no link that I could find that talks about dUKe having the most sales, but I know that is false. Kentucky usually has the highest merchandise sales of any basketball school. UNC is up there, as well.

As far as Forbes, this is the most recent list I could find. Obviously Louisville isn’t on there, but Kentucky, Kansas and UNC are in the top 3. dUKe is nowhere to be found.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...le-kansas-kentucky-on-top-again/#27ccf7f73194

I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from, but they’re just not adding up anywhere that I can find.

It certainly matters to ESPN. A basket weaving contest that has a shot much publicity as those game have on there would also rate very high.
 
Not sure about that. I'm sure you guys do more sales in your area... Duke doesn't have a single state on lockdown, you know? But more popular? Ehhh... but hey, even if we are second, that makes the idea that Duke doesn't bring enough fans to really create a rivalry a bit silly.

This cannot even be a question. Kentucky brings in more money through merchandise sales than any other basketball. The only team that is close is UNC. Heck, Kentucky’s radio station is broadcast over the air across half the country, if not more.

That statement is just silly.
 
Sorry it took so long to answer. The website didn’t tell me anyone responded to this thread, so I just checked.

As far as most popular, when I googled it, only the best teams and best team from each stat popped up.

A rivalry should only be played once a year, in my opinion. Any more than that and it’s just not as special because the losing team has another chance to redeem themselves within a short period of time.

As you would expect, Kentucky was number on Best Teams list, but dUKe was number 2. That was as close as I could find when I googled.

http://www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-mens-college-basketball-teams/

Unfortunately, there was no link that I could find that talks about dUKe having the most sales, but I know that is false. Kentucky usually has the highest merchandise sales of any basketball school. UNC is up there, as well.

As far as Forbes, this is the most recent list I could find. Obviously Louisville isn’t on there, but Kentucky, Kansas and UNC are in the top 3. dUKe is nowhere to be found.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...le-kansas-kentucky-on-top-again/#27ccf7f73194

I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from, but they’re just not adding up anywhere that I can find.
Why do you insist on linking Duke and Kentucky as if either one is relevant because of the other? It makes you look stupid as shit despite seemingly being an intelligent basketball fan outside of that.
 
I guess it's better than talking about Kentucky vs Louisville in a Duke vs unc thread. It's also better than talking about the unc scandal. Carry on.

Talking about the length of the shit log I left in the toilet this morning is better than talking about the UNC scandal.



14 inches, btw. A monster.
 
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Sorry it took so long to answer. The website didn’t tell me anyone responded to this thread, so I just checked.

As far as most popular, when I googled it, only the best teams and best team from each stat popped up.

A rivalry should only be played once a year, in my opinion. Any more than that and it’s just not as special because the losing team has another chance to redeem themselves within a short period of time.

As you would expect, Kentucky was number on Best Teams list, but dUKe was number 2. That was as close as I could find when I googled.

http://www.bestcolleges.com/features/best-mens-college-basketball-teams/

Unfortunately, there was no link that I could find that talks about dUKe having the most sales, but I know that is false. Kentucky usually has the highest merchandise sales of any basketball school. UNC is up there, as well.

As far as Forbes, this is the most recent list I could find. Obviously Louisville isn’t on there, but Kentucky, Kansas and UNC are in the top 3. dUKe is nowhere to be found.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...le-kansas-kentucky-on-top-again/#27ccf7f73194

I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from, but they’re just not adding up anywhere that I can find.

It certainly matters to ESPN. A basket weaving contest that has a shot much publicity as those game have on there would also rate very high.

Obviously I disagree about the rivalry bit. I mean, the Red Sox and the Yankees play a bunch of times a year... Duke/UNC play a bunch of times a year... lots of great rivals play multiple times a year. Add in that the game actually matters in terms of conference, and I don't see it as any worse than playing once.

Your "best schools" list is just about the 2011-2015 draft and where guys got picked. Read the first few paragraphs.

Duke is right in that list you posted from Forbes; #8. And what is interesting is that Duke's revenue is like third on the list overall, making literally 50% more than UNC. The issue is that Duke spends a TON of money on basketball, so the value is less. I figure revenue is a good way to figure popularity, and it certainly doesn't seem to me that Duke is literally so un-popular that they cannot constitute a rivalry.

Hey, doubt I can convince you that Duke/UNC is the best rivalry. I'm not even as into it as I was, to be honest. But nationally most people consider it the best college basketball rivalry, and have for decades.
 
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The only way this is the biggest rivalry is because MU snuck off to the SEC. Before then it was a free state versus a slave state and MU has the antlers. A gross bunch of asshole students who the school allowed the worse of taunts,"tricks". cheers, and other trash. Girl friends and/or wives weren't off limits. A big plus on coach Self is that he won't play them. Even Kraft can't make chicken salad out of chicken sxxx. I kick off every bball season by watching the fianl game against MU at AFH when KU came back from 19 down in the second half to beat them. Each game over the years was plain bitter.
 
Why do you insist on linking Duke and Kentucky as if either one is relevant because of the other? It makes you look stupid as shit despite seemingly being an intelligent basketball fan outside of that.

I wasn’t. The dUKe fan tried to say they were more popular than Kentucky. That’s all.

Thanks for the kind words, though.
 
I wasn’t. The dUKe fan tried to say they were more popular than Kentucky. That’s all.

Thanks for the kind words, though.
You struggle in life because of insecurities. If you would focus on being the best you can be, I think you have a shot in this world. But right now you are allowing another force control your thinking. You need to rise above this and just focus on things you can control.
 
Who won? I didn’t even know it was on.

I haven’t watched this game in at least 25 years.
 
Great day today as Tarheels hoops fan. I'm sure the guy who thinks UK vs UL is the best hoops rivalry also thinks Bama vs Auburn is the best football rivalry. It's my Wolverines against those ****nuts on the gridiron regardless of performance. To each their own I guess.
 
Great day today as Tarheels hoops fan. I'm sure the guy who thinks UK vs UL is the best hoops rivalry also thinks Bama vs Auburn is the best football rivalry. It's my Wolverines against those ****nuts on the gridiron regardless of performance. To each their own I guess.
There's actually UNC fans that root for Duke against UK.
 
There's actually UNC fans that root for Duke against UK.

Not shocking, but that scenario is why we need ties to come back if they both cannot lose.

Sidenote for rivals for Michigan FB and UNC BB:
1. OSU=Duke
2. ND=UK
3. MSU=NCST
4. Minn=Wake Forest
5. PSU=KU (not considered but should be)
 
Great day today as Tarheels hoops fan. I'm sure the guy who thinks UK vs UL is the best hoops rivalry also thinks Bama vs Auburn is the best football rivalry. It's my Wolverines against those ****nuts on the gridiron regardless of performance. To each their own I guess.
Only problem is that Alabama has more titles than both.

Geeze.
 
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