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What do you love/hate about where you live?

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Things I love about Louisville:
  • The people. Strangers you meet out and about around town are friendly 9 out of 10 times and always polite. Unless I'm driving, I never have a problem with people causing me problems.
  • Bourbon. Some of the best bourbon in the country is made right around Louisville, and if not around Louisville then some other part of the state. The distilleries are very fun to go to.
  • Love for college sports, especially basketball. Can't remember 100 percent, but I believe this city is the best market for watching college basketball. I love having UK and even Louisville fans to talk to year round about hoops.
  • We aren't in Indiana :)
Things I hate about Louisville:
  • The drivers. Either under the speed limit slow or 25 + over. There is no in-between, and it pisses me off. Thank god @brooky03 is a Yankee.
  • The weather. Although warm for 8 or 9 month of the year, I can't imagine a weather pattern more inconsistent than around here. Just stupid how often it changes and how extreme the changes are.
  • Allergies. Can't remember off the top of my head, but I think this is either the worst or second worst region to be in for allergies. Really sucks.
  • Last but not least, we have a really smelly school right in the heart of the city. And all of the school's fans wear a really ugly red ;)
 
Clarksville, TN for me.

Love

-The size. I live in the country but Clarksville is big enough to have most everything you need but not big enough that you have to be able to study a map for years to figure out how to get around.

-Nashville and Chattanooga. 40 minutes and 3.5 hours away.

-The people here are generally cool. It is a pretty diverse place but it has the generally pleasant vibe of a typical southern town.

-There are three solid golf courses here and a number of others pretty close. It is also a great golf town with tons of very good players so we have a number of good amateur tournaments every year.

Hate

-The traffic in certain areas is pretty bad. It isn't Nashville bad but some places it sucks. There are just a ton of people moving here right now.

-Too close to Kentucky. Haha, just kidding. I have no issues with the good people of the commonwealth.

-Too far from the beach.
 
Love

Architecture, convenient public transportation (no car required), food/restaurant options, overall attitude of Chicagoans, everything I need is within walking distance

Hate

There is no spring, tourists, cost of living here
 
Things I love about Louisville:

1. I'm 50 and have kids so I can only state this somewhat as a relic...but the City of Louisville can throw an event rivaled by few others. I'm in complete awe of just how much expense goes into Derby Week. The beauty of the women in dresses on Oaks Day, out at the High Society parties all over Downtown and the Barnstable Brown party in the Highlands and at Churchill Downs The way we did the Ryder Cup ten years ago despite a near disastrous storm a couple days prior to the event. It's history with Breeder's Cups and PGA majors. Louisville knows how to roll out the Red Carpet...and will provide you with a drink the second you enter.

2. It's not just UK and UofL...Indiana plays a role in the uniqueness of the college basketball experience. That is three very distinct fanbases with distinct conference heritage.

3. If the Old Testament was being written to today's experience, a healthy dose of Exodus and manna from the heavens and the Promised Land would be devoted to the sheer, unadulaterated cheap access to quality Bourbon. It's everywhere here and seems to have a Canal from the Ohio River all the way to Bardstown.

4. The constant opening and closing of really good restaurants in the Highlands, Germantown, Butchertown, Crescent Hill and Downtown or along River Road make it seem like we have double the restaurants we have. It's tough to explain, but if you spent much time here you'd know what I mean. That was never my experience in Lexington.

Things I hate about Louisville:

1. I've lived in Kentucky since I was six growing up in Etown and living for twelve years in Lexington, and even now as a Catholic I think the Trinity/St. X thing is kind of weird. They act like it's the difference between the Kardashians and the Kennedy's but good lord they both are just alike when it's all said and done.

2. I put this under hate but I really should put detest because I am currently living it...the way the Jefferson County school system is structured to have kids get accepted into Manual or Failure. It's what keeps that $13,000 a year minimum for the Catholic schools churning; and people practically keep themselves in debt paying that cost without question.
 
Durham

Loves
people
politics
overall level of education
Duke
Bulls
farming community
art
libraries
restaurants
DPAC
10 months of the weather
beach and mountains are each a day trip
big enough to have options, opportunities, resources
small enough that you can get across town in less than a half hour
conversion of old tobacco buildings into pretty cool downtown area
music
breweries
film festivals
potential

Dislikes
July and August weather
proximity to Chapel Hill
revitalization trending toward gentrification
over-developing w/o first addressing infrastructure
echo chamber
sprawl
malls
gap between haves and have-nots
my voting precinct
that it's in North Carolina
 
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Love: the Bay is beautiful, great weather year round, politics fit my lifestyle, weed is the best, great beaches everywhere, women are beautiful, great sports to watch (nfl, nba, and mlb) I like to skateboard, and it’s fun rolling around the hills in my neighborhood. My neighbors are super cool.

Hate: Rent is expensive, homeless in downtown sf is pretty bad, even though I live across the bay. No one really cares about CBB here, even when UC Berk wasn’t that bad. Traffic can suck sometimes.
 
I love that I live in the almost country, but am 5 minutes from downtown and 20 minutes from the beach.

I hate that New Jersey is relocating down here.
Says anybody in NC. Raleigh is a damn transplant town. Someone will ask me and my wife where we are from when we are out. We say Raleigh born and raised , they look at us like they are viewing an endangered species.
 
I also love the connection between the locals here. Hardly any social issues divide people here and I can't imagine politics playing a role in whether I like it here or not.
I can't imagine its not being a factor. You're private sector, right? I'm public. A lot of it can be political by nature. There aren't screaming matches by the water cooler or on the sidewalk or anything, but people butt heads badly across NC, and the solidarity of the values in the Durham community is refreshing, a nice oasis. It can be an echo chamber, too, but on the balance, I like it.
 
Durham

Loves
people
politics
overall level of education
Duke
Bulls
farming community
art
libraries
restaurants
DPAC
10 months of the weather
beach and mountains are each a day trip
big enough to have options, opportunities, resources
small enough that you can get across town in less than a half hour
conversion of old tobacco buildings into pretty cool downtown area
music
breweries
film festivals
potential

Dislikes
July and August weather
proximity to Chapel Hill
revitalization trending toward gentrification
over-developing w/o first addressing infrastructure

echo chamber
sprawl
malls
gap between haves and have-nots
my voting precinct
that it's in North Carolina
Revitalization attracts new people and opportunities. It always trends towards the term "gentrification". It's the natural end of the process. Watching it happen in Raleigh as well , along with living in a neighborhood from the start of the revitalization to when it gets expensive. You have people who grow with the revitalization and see the opportunity that have been part of the neighborhood all along. Then you have folks that stay the same and get priced out of the neighborhood because they have no "true" desire to grow or better there situation. This is what you see amongst the working class demographics in these neighborhoods in Raleigh.

Not sure where you live in Durham area wise? But as soon as you buy that old , neglected house and fix it up..... You are contributing to the eventual gentrification. Build a city farm in the neighborhood , you are slowly contributing to the gentrification. On a much smaller scale but contributing. You don't like it? Talk to your City Council about allowing large out of town developers to come in and do what they want building high rise condos , $9 a cup specialty coffee spots , and sushi places. That contributes to rise in living expenses/housing more than anything. Durham hasn't gotten as bad as Raleigh on that front yet.... but I can see it coming. There also is this misconception that "Gentrification" is a product of conservative greed. Yet Raleigh has had a generally liberal city council for 15 years that has no problems rolling out the red carpet for mass density commercial construction. Allowing the character/charm of Raleigh to be altered for the all might $. But at the same time will tell a homeowner they can't bump/expand their house out 5 ft in the front because the front set back of the neighbors house's are 50 ft and they have to all be the same , their's can't be 45 feet.

The infrastructure development part I would be interested to hear what you mean exactly? If you mean better and more public transportation? None of these NC cities were originally designed with any of that in mind. Try to integrate that kinda of stuff is extremely tricky. I actually get people all the time from bigger cities looking to move here from somewhere with significant public transportation. Almost everyone of them says they feel like cities with less public transportation operate better from a transportation standpoint. In terms of getting around by motor vehicle.
 
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I can't imagine its not being a factor. You're private sector, right? I'm public. A lot of it can be political by nature. There aren't screaming matches by the water cooler or on the sidewalk or anything, but people butt heads badly across NC, and the solidarity of the values in the Durham community is refreshing, a nice oasis. It can be an echo chamber, too, but on the balance, I like it.
Seriously. Living here is nothing like what you see on TV. It is very very rare that you even hear political conversations in public. It's more about drinking and relaxing. And there are a lot of places to do that around here.
 
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Seriously. Living here is nothing like what you see on TV. It is very very rare that you even hear political conversations in public. It's more about drinking and relaxing. And there are a lot of places to do that around here.
Beach culture. Same thing in the mountains. Everybody kinda has their own speed at which they do anything. Slower paced lives for sure , not the city hustle and bustle.
 
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Southern Illinois
Hate
It's not the south
Winters
Chicago is part of the state
Taxes

Love
Summers
The people, generally just good people. People that always open doors for you and say thank you when you hold it open for them.
Only couple hours drive to Nasville, Tn or STL or Indianapolis
45 mins from Ky, where everything is a lot cheaper
 
Chicago

As esteemed film critic Roger Ebert once said, Chicago is the largest most livable city in the world.....you can easily travel anywhere within it at hardly any cost. (obviously, there are certain places where you might be guarded to go, but that's a matter of choice).

Architecture abounds with many landmark buildings and a renowned lakefront park system that justifies the city's slogan of "urbs in horta" (city in a garden).

Sports options on all levels....professional, college, and high school. High school basketball is about as good as it gets anywhere. I've easily seen double figure prepsters who went on to the NBA.

Food and drink, about as diverse as could be found, from Zagat and Michilin rated gems to many ethnic neighborhood places that are just as good. From corner taverns to great brewpubs and larger establishments, one always has access to an array of liquor options.

Entertainment venues, outdoor concerts on the lakefront, Second City, Improv Theaters, and a multitude of playhouses.

The negatives would be sometimes shitty weather, political boondoggles, and the knowledge that there are some downtrodden areas.

I've been to 40 states and five continents (Antarctica and Africa haven't yet been included), and Chicago is No. 1 for me. If Dublin, Ireland, had American sports it might be a tough decision.
 
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Chicago

As esteemed film critic Roger Ebert once said, Chicago is the largest most livable city in the world.....you can easily travel anywhere within it at hardly any cost. (obviously, there are certain places where you might be guarded to go, but that's a matter of choice).

Architecture abounds with many landmark buildings and a renowned lakefront park system that justifies the city's slogan of "urbs in horta" (city in a garden).

Sports options on all levels....professional, college, and high school. High school basketball is about as good as it gets anywhere. I've easily seen double figure prepsters who went on to the NBA.

Food and drink, about as diverse as could be found, from Zagat and Michilin rated gems to many ethnic neighborhood places that are just as good. From corner taverns to great brewpubs and larger establishments, one always has access to an array of liquor options.

Entertainment venues, outdoor concerts on the lakefront, Second City, Improv Theaters, and a multitude of playhouses.

The negatives would be sometimes shitty weather, political boondoggles, and the knowledge that there are some downtrodden areas.

I've been to 40 states and five continents (Antarctica and Africa haven't yet been included), and Chicago is No. 1 for me. If Dublin, Ireland, had American sports it might be a tough decision.
I’ll be in Chicago in July. Staying in the West Loop right at N Jefferson & Washington, about half mile from Willis Tower. How is that area?
 
Russellville AR

Love
Cheap as shit - my salary goes a LONG way here
I only have to be here 8 months out of the year
I'm like a 9 here (yes, out of 10)
The hot girls are dumb as rocks and love the fact that I'm a "doctor"

Hate
Bum**** AR
Dry county
Hour from the closest airport (LIT)
Idiot, redneck people
No culture - restaurants suck, no nightlife
No pro sports
Red state
Weather is erratic as hell
 
I didn't know politics played much of a role in people liking/disliking where they live. Maybe I never noticed because Louisville is about 50/50 with the rest of the state being overwhelmingly red. I guess maybe I would see it more if I was on the wrong side of everyone else.
 
Midland, TX

Perks:
Oil capital of America. Bodes well for what it is I do.
Low crime.
Low unemployment.
The 2 things above make people happy and friendly.
Beautiful southwest Texas mountains are only a couple of hours away. It’s great down there and really only local people come there to visit (like 400+ miles from other major cities excluding El Paso)

Cons:
It’s Midland, TX
 
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I’ll be in Chicago in July. Staying in the West Loop right at N Jefferson & Washington, about half mile from Willis Tower. How is that area?
You're in a safe and fun area. I used to work just west of the Willis Tower back when it was called Sears Tower. You'll be right by Greek Town, and I mean that in the ethnic sense. If you like Greek cuisine, all I can say is Oopah!!!!!
 
[QUOTE="Silent Banjo, post: 24411887, member: Chicago
I always find it completely fascinating how N.Illinois and S.Illinois people are such polar opposites. Like comparing people from New York to Texas[/QUOTE]
I suppose. I went to Knox College (supposedly 1 mile closer to St. Louis than Chicago), so I had plenty of interaction with both groups.
 
Revitalization attracts new people and opportunities. It always trends towards the term "gentrification". It's the natural end of the process. Watching it happen in Raleigh as well , along with living in a neighborhood from the start of the revitalization to when it gets expensive. You have people who grow with the revitalization and see the opportunity that have been part of the neighborhood all along. Then you have folks that stay the same and get priced out of the neighborhood because they have no "true" desire to grow or better there situation. This is what you see amongst the working class demographics in these neighborhoods in Raleigh.
There's some balance between revitalization and gentrification we should strive for. If gentrification is inevitable, we should be mindful of how and how fast.

Among those people you accuse of having no desire to grow or better their situations are the elderly, disabled, poor who only have a roof over their heads via inheritance, renters, single parents, people with expensive medical needs, people for whom the cost of moving is impractical, and more. In some places, they see their tax value triple in a matter of a couple years. You could be seeking to better yourself all you want, going back to school, working nights, and you're still likely to get overwhelmed by soaring property values.

Not sure where you live in Durham area wise? But as soon as you buy that old , neglected house and fix it up..... You are contributing to the eventual gentrification. Build a city farm in the neighborhood , you are slowly contributing to the gentrification. On a much smaller scale but contributing. You don't like it? Talk to your City Council
You got me pegged for fixing up an old house and farming (East Durham County). We've been in the house 22 years this fall, if there's a statute of limitations on being a colonist. And I understand the interconnectedness of it; I think it's reasonable to be more and more deliberate in how we grow.

I'm involved in our political process. I write, call, vote, show up, canvas, advocate, etc.

There also is this misconception that "Gentrification" is a product of conservative greed. Yet Raleigh has had a generally liberal city council for 15 years that has no problems rolling out the red carpet for mass density commercial construction. Allowing the character/charm of Raleigh to be altered for the all might $.
There's some greed of all political stripes, to be sure. If that usually leans conservative, so be it; I'll give you short-sighted, naive good intentions on the left.

The infrastructure development part I would be interested to hear what you mean exactly? If you mean better and more public transportation? None of these NC cities were originally designed with any of that in mind. Try to integrate that kinda of stuff is extremely tricky. I actually get people all the time from bigger cities looking to move here from somewhere with significant public transportation. Almost everyone of them says they feel like cities with less public transportation operate better from a transportation standpoint. In terms of getting around by motor vehicle.
Yeah, the Triangle was much more rural until after the automobile, so when it exploded, it was all to accommodate cars. It's like that almost everywhere but the NE and MW/Great Lakes area and scattered port cities.

A specific example would be a huge road project that takes several years, but okaying so much other construction around it that the road is obsolete before it's even done. In the meantime traffic gets way worse during the project, too.
 
I didn't know politics played much of a role in people liking/disliking where they live. Maybe I never noticed because Louisville is about 50/50 with the rest of the state being overwhelmingly red. I guess maybe I would see it more if I was on the wrong side of everyone else.
I notice first b/c I'm involved. Next, NC is genuinely purple, but it's gerrymandered at historic levels so that the GOP has a super-majority in both state houses. We've gotten a lot of press in the last few years for some of their big moves. Durham skews strongly blue, so it makes a lot of decisions I agree with locally in the context of a state that makes a lot of decisions I disagree with, so I'm grateful for living here.
 
I notice first b/c I'm involved. Next, NC is genuinely purple, but it's gerrymandered at historic levels so that the GOP has a super-majority in both state houses. We've gotten a lot of press in the last few years for some of their big moves. Durham skews strongly blue, so it makes a lot of decisions I agree with locally in the context of a state that makes a lot of decisions I disagree with, so I'm grateful for living here.
I typically don't get involved with anything political around town. But it sounds like your city is much more different than the rest of the state, whereas my city has a good mix of both red and blue.
 
Among those people you accuse of having no desire to grow or better their situations are the elderly, disabled, poor who only have a roof over their heads via inheritance, renters, single parents, people with expensive medical needs, people for whom the cost of moving is impractical, and more. In some places, they see their tax value triple in a matter of a couple years. You could be seeking to better yourself all you want, going back to school, working nights, and you're still likely to get overwhelmed by soaring property values.

It's kind of a double edge sword, no? Gentrification usually means things are getting better for those that live there; new shops, restaurants, housing, things to do, etc.

It can/does increase values and taxes, but what is the alternative? Keep it shitty with less things to do, so that it doesn't become too expensive for those incumbent people?

It's a similar situation in Detroit right now, which is experiencing a "revitalization" downtown and along the Woodward corridor. New Red Wings / Pistons arena, new developments, tons of new restaurants and money flowing in. But the people who have lived there for a long time are getting upset, because prices are rising and more people are hanging out down there and the business are catering to those types of people. But again, what is the alternative? Detroit has been a wasteland for decades. Just let it continue to decay and become worse, so that the "yuppies" don't gentrify it?
 
I typically don't get involved with anything political around town. But it sounds like your city is much more different than the rest of the state, whereas my city has a good mix of both red and blue.
I avoid anything political other than this board b/c it somehow brings out the worst in people. You could literally have 90% of views in common but that 10% will somehow make people hate each other over some minute issue that really wont affect either party. Politics in general---suck big bags of d
 
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I live in Greensboro and I must say I have nothing negative to say about the city. I’m a hour east of Raleigh, 1 hour north to VA and 1.5 hour south to Charlotte. When CBB season is in this city goes crazy and when the ACC tournament is here the atmosphere is electric. The one thing about living here or anywhere in NC is the pollen/allergies. I don’t have any allergy problems but the pollen on my vehicles suck.
 
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It's kind of a double edge sword, no?
... what is the alternative?
Absolutely.
Letting the place rot isn't an alternative, so we shouldn't discourage revitalization efforts, but we should do that w/ deliberation and consideration toward mitigating the negative effects. Having caps on how much or/and how quickly increases can happen for people who qualify under some type of grandfather rule would be one way of protecting existing residents and community. Encouraging renovation over new construction, giving priority to business plans that contribute to the existing community, preserving green space, pursuing/making available grant $, and just generally considering the impact of decisions... those are a few more possibilities.
 
I typically split time between Syracuse and NJ, so for both -

Syracuse:

Good...
- No traffick. Ever.
- Affordable af.
- For a small city it has pretty good food

Bad...
- The weather MUST be worst in America. Awful.
- So, so depressed. Thus depressing.
- Ugly girls
- Boring
- Panhandlers everywhere

North/Central Jersey

Good...
- Location. Close to NYC, 30 minutes to beaches.
- Lots to do
- Great food
- Better weather (for me, remember the alternative)

Bad...
- Traffick. A late night gas run is a chore.
- Tolls everywhere.
 
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This cannot be said enough.

What I really love is when they move down here and try to impose their way of life on us. If I’m involved in some way, I’ll usually laugh and then and tell them to move back where they came from if they don’t like it around here.
That's my only beef with Jersey folks. I get along with people from all over the globe. And there are people from many places that bring their own arrogance. Including southerners that move elsewhere. But Jersey people (here) piss me off because they have to tell you how they do things and how you are doing it wrong. It's like they forgot that life brought them down here, not that down here intruded on their life.
 
That's my only beef with Jersey folks. I get along with people from all over the globe. And there are people from many places that bring their own arrogance. Including southerners that move elsewhere. But Jersey people (here) piss me off because they have to tell you how they do things and how you are doing it wrong. It's like they forgot that life brought them down here, not that down here intruded on their life.


I work with a few of them and and I hear that all the time. I calmly tell them 40 east to 85 north to 95 north and keep driving. If you think Jersey is all that why are you here and then they all get quiet.
 
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I didn't know politics played much of a role in people liking/disliking where they live. Maybe I never noticed because Louisville is about 50/50 with the rest of the state being overwhelmingly red. I guess maybe I would see it more if I was on the wrong side of everyone else.

Yeah, it doesn't for me. Much of my family and many of my friends and the majority of my state feel differently from me politically. I don't really care. I respect the differences we all have.
 
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I don't know a lot of Jersey folks but we did have one who got hired to run the Country Club here and chased off half the members because he was such a prick. Heck, some of the bigger money guys left and built a new course just as a 'f u' to him. It's all good now as he is gone and the Club is slowly getting back to what it should be but it was pretty crazy for a while with that dude in charge.
 
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