I've always interpreted it to mean someone from somewhere else who has their own opinion and who registers to vote in their new location. For some people, living your own life is considered a threat to their own.
What do you love/hate about where you live?
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Small town in So, Indiana.
Love:
Small town,,but in close proximity to Louisville(40 minutes) and Indy(about an hour and a half). Plus some nice size towns/cities with good shopping, eating, etc, etc...
High school basketball, and baseball. A good mixture. Great followings for most schools. Of course, HS basketball in southern Indiana is insane.
People: Just good ol' farming folks. All cordial. Polite, and littered with manners.
Fishing: Great, great places. Patoka Lake....Lake Monroe...Lost River...Starve Hollow. Plus a ton of small lakes that are just great.
Sports scene: IU, UK, UL...The Pacers...Reds...Colts. Derby...Indy 500. I mean, man, where else can you get that?
Hate:
Drug issue. It's getting better. But my goodness. I mean from where it was, It has to get better.
Traffic: Not one single mother fucjer he can drive. That simple.
Weather is a toss up. But damn the extreme's are aggravating. 80 one day....45 the next.
All in all, I live in a pretty damn good place.
Love:
Small town,,but in close proximity to Louisville(40 minutes) and Indy(about an hour and a half). Plus some nice size towns/cities with good shopping, eating, etc, etc...
High school basketball, and baseball. A good mixture. Great followings for most schools. Of course, HS basketball in southern Indiana is insane.
People: Just good ol' farming folks. All cordial. Polite, and littered with manners.
Fishing: Great, great places. Patoka Lake....Lake Monroe...Lost River...Starve Hollow. Plus a ton of small lakes that are just great.
Sports scene: IU, UK, UL...The Pacers...Reds...Colts. Derby...Indy 500. I mean, man, where else can you get that?
Hate:
Drug issue. It's getting better. But my goodness. I mean from where it was, It has to get better.
Traffic: Not one single mother fucjer he can drive. That simple.
Weather is a toss up. But damn the extreme's are aggravating. 80 one day....45 the next.
All in all, I live in a pretty damn good place.
Live in Oakland.
As I live in the hills, I love the surrounding area. It’s a forest with close proximity to pretty much everything. People are generally very nice, which surprises many who aren’t from CA...and even some who are. There’s always something to do here or in SF. We have a great group of friends. I like the weather and the airport is easy, close and flies most everywhere. Food is fantastic and every food I can imagine is well represented. Diversity is everywhere. People are generally very health conscious, which permeates everything and allows me to never be too lazy.
I don’t like that it’s a political/ideology echo chamber here. There is a ton of homelessness, especially in SF (where I work). Cost of living is borderline absurd. Traffic in SF has increased by tenfold in the last 5-7 years. Many locals in Oakland hate the yuppies/hipsters/etc moving in and driving up prices, changing neighborhoods.
Overall, I love it here. I know this because no matter where I visit domestic or abroad, I’m always excited to come home. It will be tough for me to ever leave California - having excellent in-laws nearby also helps that immensely.
As I live in the hills, I love the surrounding area. It’s a forest with close proximity to pretty much everything. People are generally very nice, which surprises many who aren’t from CA...and even some who are. There’s always something to do here or in SF. We have a great group of friends. I like the weather and the airport is easy, close and flies most everywhere. Food is fantastic and every food I can imagine is well represented. Diversity is everywhere. People are generally very health conscious, which permeates everything and allows me to never be too lazy.
I don’t like that it’s a political/ideology echo chamber here. There is a ton of homelessness, especially in SF (where I work). Cost of living is borderline absurd. Traffic in SF has increased by tenfold in the last 5-7 years. Many locals in Oakland hate the yuppies/hipsters/etc moving in and driving up prices, changing neighborhoods.
Overall, I love it here. I know this because no matter where I visit domestic or abroad, I’m always excited to come home. It will be tough for me to ever leave California - having excellent in-laws nearby also helps that immensely.
We're off 70, closer to 85 than Brier Creek. Right about where Holloway St starts being called Wake Forest Highway. The city/county property map looks like a checkerboard around us.
When they were just talking about the 70/Durham Freeway connector project now underway, there were several different route proposals online. They were ranked according to cost, environmental impact, and effect on current homes & businesses. One route was 2nd cheapest, I think, and best in the other 2 categories. It seemed like the obvious choice to me. They didn't go w/ that, and I don't think they went w/ the cheapest, iirc. Someone who lived in one of the potentially effected areas cynically told me that WHOSE homes and businesses were disrupted was the hidden, suspect factor for which route was ultimately chosen. If there's money to be made, someone is going to maneuver to have their personal agenda prioritized. On some level that's understandable, but if it were completely above-board it wouldn't be done surreptitiously so often.
I've gotten more involved in politics on the ground level since the '16 elections, and I have to say, at least on my side of the fence, being on the ground, in the trenches so to speak, that type of involvement definitely sways you more toward Bernie than Hillary.
I can't push back hard enough on what you're saying about people being priced out of their own homes. I get that it's complicated, so I can't just shrug it off as the way it goes, and I definitely can't accept the narrative that it's the result of some failing on the parts of those people. We give tax breaks to married couples, for example, in part b/c it creates stability that benefits society. Home ownership does, too. That's why mortgage interest has been tax-deductible, too. It's an investment and something we should encourage and respect. When people have made that choice consciously and responsibly, and worked their entire lives to own it free and clear, we shouldn't be so cavalier about dismissing that when property values soar.
Sure, on a strictly financial level, they may stand to profit tremendously, but that ignores all kinds of human factors: It's where they've raised kids, shot hoops, built an addition for an aging parent, planted a garden, hosted events, and all kinds of sentimental things that can't be quantified in terms of money. Their very lives are rooted there. And there are practical things beyond the sentimental, too. They've invested in the foundation that made the neighborhood attractive; why should the only way they benefit be to sell before they want to? Why shouldn't we be more concerned about undermining the premise that investment is wise and respected?
Again, I get that it's complicated. My own parents moved a couple years ago out of the home they'd been in for over 30 years, since we moved to NC when I was a kid. They did so willingly, on their own terms, and to great financial benefit, and it was still really difficult for them emotionally. That's how it goes even under the best of circumstances sometimes, and no one is guaranteed the best of circumstances; no one is immune from those difficulties. No one should be thrown under the bus, either, though, and as a society, we ought to be careful about respecting and honoring that.
No shit. I was born in Chapel Hill and although I know a ton of people who now live there, I dont know a single native.
And I love everything about where I live, which is in the middle of the woods about 20 miles from Chapel Hill. Well, I dont like the snakes and ticks. Other than that, all good.
20 miles from Chapel Hill? Provided you mean "closer to Duke," that sounds awesome! Winking
I know neither you nor Spacegrass were saying these two things, but on that first bold bit, it would be pretty hypocritical if we were to lament the Yankee invasion and the transient nature of the Triangle on the one hand... then turn around and shrug our shoulders at families being pushed out of their homes by gentrification.
Near Saxapahaw.
The whole gentrification thing is the epitome of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I live just outside of Wilmington. Have a Wilmington mailing address, but it's called Wrightsboro where I live.
But Morehead City is really nice. Plus, you got to love a place called moreHEAD City.
My sister-in-law (RIP) had some friends that live in Saxapahaw. We used to go up there a lot. That is a cool area. Love the trails along the river and the old mill and dams.
Saxapahaw is great! Had some friends who lived there a good 20 years ago. They were 2-3 houses down from chainsaw artist Clyde Jones.
If you're familiar with The Inferno, Dante reserves some of the harshest consequences for people who refused to take sides. When faced w/ d'd-if-you-do-d'ed-if-you-don't scenarios (and I agree that renewal/gentrification is such a scenario), the third option of trying to do neither is what gets you d'ed the worst.
We need stricter immigration laws state to state for living lol.
I guess because I work in the building industry I don't get the personal attachments to homes. I enjoy every house I build especially the outside the box custom homes. I move every 3-5 years typically so to me it's no big deal. To quote the old Cajun guy from Joe Dirt "Home is where you make It".
To the original question, I live just outside Raleigh and can't imagine living somewhere else I would enjoy as much. I can be at the beach in a couple hours, up in the mountains in three. We get all of the seasons but not too much winter. I love when we have 70 degree weather in February but it isn't uncommon, like this year, to follow such a spell with snow in March. Raleigh is a big enough city that we have a theater and concerts and being a college sports fan, this area has no shortage of options and college sports are a core fabric of just about everything and everyone who lives here. Compared to other parts of the country I think this area is pretty affordable but I also bought a house here long before the population explosion from people relocation into the area, mostly from the northeast.
About the only negative is the late summer humidity but that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers some people. I don't care for some of the state politics and games played between rural and urban parts of the state but I don't think North Carolina is unique from that perspective.
I like where I live and feel fortunate to live here. I travel a lot for work so I see lots of other parts of the country and the only other which really appeals to me as much is Austin. But Austin is suffering from growth problems too and people I work with who live there have similar complaints as people who live in the Triangle - too many people relocating to the area.
Based on reading this thread, it looks like there are a number of other Triangle area residents, my thoughts on their comments are below.
Where in the Triangle do you live that social issues don't divide people? If you live in Wake County and had school age kids during the massive redistricting ~2010 (when Del Burns was school superintendent) you would have lived through a huge social divide. Between the redrawing of school boundaries, forced year round schools to help address overcrowding, and busing for diversity, the school situation was a mess and it affected most people who lived in Wake County, particularly in the high growth areas. The growth and development far outpaced the school system's ability to meet the demand. All four of my kids have had "trailer" classrooms which was a cheap and quick solution to add classroom space.
The school issue is just one example, the HB2 fiasco was complete cluster that cost the state and unknown amount of jobs, bad press, etc. There are certainly many more. I don't think the Triangle area is significantly better or worse than other areas, I think it is pretty typical.
This is 100% spot on. I've lived in the Raleigh area since 1988 and it is pretty rare that I meet someone who has lived here longer than I have. You don't have to go far though to find people who have lived here their whole life.
This is a double edged sword and we're dealing with this in my neighborhood right now. I live in an old neighborhood, most of the houses were build in the early 70's. Lots are large, most more than half an acre and the neighborhood is heavily wooded. For the past 15 years many of the houses have been remodeled and the character of the neighborhood has remained constant. We have an HOA with covenants but they are legally difficult to enforce (no one really cared about HOA covenants in the early 70's) but most people adhere to them. Recently there are have been a few tear-downs which haven't followed the setbacks but for the most part, didn't push them too much. About two years ago a local builder started buying houses, tearing them down, and building massive houses which don't honor the setbacks at all. The builder essentially clear cuts the lots, taking down hundreds of hardwoods. These houses stick out like a sore thumb but the builder doesn't care. He has found a loophole and is trying to exploit it.
The neighborhood tried to vote in new covenants a year ago to limit what builders can do and while the voting was largely in favor of the new covenants (~80% for), the lack of voter turnout (~40%) meant they didn't pass.
The Triangle area used to be a reverse commute for many people with people commuting away from Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill into RTP for work. RTP was a great idea 40 years ago but the strict rules about commercial development meant simple things like places to eat or child care providers, and other types of infrastructure, couldn't be in RTP proper. When big companies like IBM, Glaxo, Burroughs-Welcome, Northern-Telecom, the EPA, and others who employed thousands of people on large campuses which had infrastructure (cafeterias, child care, gym facilities, etc.), it wasn't a big issue. Those employers are all gone and jobs have gravitated to Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill.
The Triangle would be a tough area to add light rail to. It isn't a single hub with lots of smaller communities feeding into it. It is three, possibly four if you count RTP, distinct areas each with their own independent economy but none of them big enough on their own for it to make sense. Raleigh has proposed it several times and each plan to date doesn't include the airport which is the one thing I'd consider using it for. I was in Charlotte recently and took the light rail from UNC-Charlotte downtown. Near every rail stop there is all sorts of new development. I don't know if it would work in this area or not but the ability to take it from Raleigh or Cary to Durham to see a Durham Bulls game would appeal to me.
About the only negative is the late summer humidity but that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers some people. I don't care for some of the state politics and games played between rural and urban parts of the state but I don't think North Carolina is unique from that perspective.
I like where I live and feel fortunate to live here. I travel a lot for work so I see lots of other parts of the country and the only other which really appeals to me as much is Austin. But Austin is suffering from growth problems too and people I work with who live there have similar complaints as people who live in the Triangle - too many people relocating to the area.
Based on reading this thread, it looks like there are a number of other Triangle area residents, my thoughts on their comments are below.
Where in the Triangle do you live that social issues don't divide people? If you live in Wake County and had school age kids during the massive redistricting ~2010 (when Del Burns was school superintendent) you would have lived through a huge social divide. Between the redrawing of school boundaries, forced year round schools to help address overcrowding, and busing for diversity, the school situation was a mess and it affected most people who lived in Wake County, particularly in the high growth areas. The growth and development far outpaced the school system's ability to meet the demand. All four of my kids have had "trailer" classrooms which was a cheap and quick solution to add classroom space.
The school issue is just one example, the HB2 fiasco was complete cluster that cost the state and unknown amount of jobs, bad press, etc. There are certainly many more. I don't think the Triangle area is significantly better or worse than other areas, I think it is pretty typical.
This is 100% spot on. I've lived in the Raleigh area since 1988 and it is pretty rare that I meet someone who has lived here longer than I have. You don't have to go far though to find people who have lived here their whole life.
This is a double edged sword and we're dealing with this in my neighborhood right now. I live in an old neighborhood, most of the houses were build in the early 70's. Lots are large, most more than half an acre and the neighborhood is heavily wooded. For the past 15 years many of the houses have been remodeled and the character of the neighborhood has remained constant. We have an HOA with covenants but they are legally difficult to enforce (no one really cared about HOA covenants in the early 70's) but most people adhere to them. Recently there are have been a few tear-downs which haven't followed the setbacks but for the most part, didn't push them too much. About two years ago a local builder started buying houses, tearing them down, and building massive houses which don't honor the setbacks at all. The builder essentially clear cuts the lots, taking down hundreds of hardwoods. These houses stick out like a sore thumb but the builder doesn't care. He has found a loophole and is trying to exploit it.
The neighborhood tried to vote in new covenants a year ago to limit what builders can do and while the voting was largely in favor of the new covenants (~80% for), the lack of voter turnout (~40%) meant they didn't pass.
The Triangle area used to be a reverse commute for many people with people commuting away from Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill into RTP for work. RTP was a great idea 40 years ago but the strict rules about commercial development meant simple things like places to eat or child care providers, and other types of infrastructure, couldn't be in RTP proper. When big companies like IBM, Glaxo, Burroughs-Welcome, Northern-Telecom, the EPA, and others who employed thousands of people on large campuses which had infrastructure (cafeterias, child care, gym facilities, etc.), it wasn't a big issue. Those employers are all gone and jobs have gravitated to Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill.
The Triangle would be a tough area to add light rail to. It isn't a single hub with lots of smaller communities feeding into it. It is three, possibly four if you count RTP, distinct areas each with their own independent economy but none of them big enough on their own for it to make sense. Raleigh has proposed it several times and each plan to date doesn't include the airport which is the one thing I'd consider using it for. I was in Charlotte recently and took the light rail from UNC-Charlotte downtown. Near every rail stop there is all sorts of new development. I don't know if it would work in this area or not but the ability to take it from Raleigh or Cary to Durham to see a Durham Bulls game would appeal to me.
I don't live in the triangle. I live in SE NC. New Hanover. As far as social issues dividing people, I was saying that people get along and don't let social politics decide how they treat others. Which apparently is different from other parts of the state.
There probably are. I think @Ampelmann lives in Austin. Most of the day to day regulars seem to be out east though.
@LetsGoDuke301 you should start that poll. Which region do you live in. I’d do it but I feel like you’d have more fun arguing over what exactly is the Midwest and whether or not Texas is in the south. You know the discussion would go there pretty quickly once people saw the options. Lol
Likes:
-Moderate climate. Winters can be lame but they pale in comparison to winters where I moved from.
-Living in a nice, safe, suburb but close enough to downtown Milwaukee to go to a Brewers game on a whim.
-The hospital is the best in the state and probably one of the best in the Midwest.
-cheese curds. It surprises me how many places outside of Wisconsin don’t sell cheese curds.
-No poisonous snakes or spiders.
Hate:
-Getting over a foot of snow in April like we did last week.
-The housing market. Every house in the suburbs is going for asking price within a week of being listed.
-Packer fans
-Moderate climate. Winters can be lame but they pale in comparison to winters where I moved from.
-Living in a nice, safe, suburb but close enough to downtown Milwaukee to go to a Brewers game on a whim.
-The hospital is the best in the state and probably one of the best in the Midwest.
-cheese curds. It surprises me how many places outside of Wisconsin don’t sell cheese curds.
-No poisonous snakes or spiders.
Hate:
-Getting over a foot of snow in April like we did last week.
-The housing market. Every house in the suburbs is going for asking price within a week of being listed.
-Packer fans
Because for the first 100 years of this country only like 300 people lived west of Chicago. Ohio was right smack dab in the middle of the Atlantic and Illinois. It’s traditional bruh.
Ah. Never underestimate the educational value of Rivals.
Did I get banned? Haven’t been able to post for a month lol. We live 20 minutes from each other too, gotta watch a game next season
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This times 1000000. I live in Richmond, Ca. Agree with all of your points, especially the homeless problem in SF.
Thing I love about Connecticut; the weather. Thing I hate about Connecticut; the weather. Those feelings can take place on the same day at times.Things I love about Louisville:
Things I hate about Louisville:
- The people. Strangers you meet out and about around town are friendly 9 out of 10 times and always polite. Unless I'm driving, I never have a problem with people causing me problems.
- Bourbon. Some of the best bourbon in the country is made right around Louisville, and if not around Louisville then some other part of the state. The distilleries are very fun to go to.
- Love for college sports, especially basketball. Can't remember 100 percent, but I believe this city is the best market for watching college basketball. I love having UK and even Louisville fans to talk to year round about hoops.
- We aren't in Indiana
- The drivers. Either under the speed limit slow or 25 + over. There is no in-between, and it pisses me off. Thank god @brooky03 is a Yankee.
- The weather. Although warm for 8 or 9 month of the year, I can't imagine a weather pattern more inconsistent than around here. Just stupid how often it changes and how extreme the changes are.
- Allergies. Can't remember off the top of my head, but I think this is either the worst or second worst region to be in for allergies. Really sucks.
- Last but not least, we have a really smelly school right in the heart of the city. And all of the school's fans wear a really ugly red
I was in Chapel Hill a few times this winter and hadn’t been there in a bunch of years. Much different than I remembered. Lots of development, especially housing in and around the area. While I liked hanging out closevto campus, Carrboro had a few great places to get some drinking done. Those Hoppyniyum IPA’s go down easy.
Chapel Hill changes month to month at this point. I still love it, but it’s not the Chapel Hill that I grew up loving.
So earlier today, in some part due to this thread, my wife and I went to Durham to hang out and found ourselves at a self serve bar with about 50 taps. That place was hoppin at 4pm and so were plenty of places in view and others we walked by. It really has turned into a great little city. In fact, Durham is one of the seven wonders of the modern world, because 15 years ago I wouldn’t have gone to downtown Durham without an armed bodyguard.
Yeah, Durham was much different as well. Frankly it was great to see. Self serve taps? Sweet! I was considering a move to the area in the next year and may still do so. I’m more of a small town guy so I would look at some of the great smaller towns around that area.
That's Clouds Brewing! Pretty sweet place.
Durham has come a long way in 20 years. I've always loved it, but I don't have to defend it as much anymore.
There really aren’t many small towns left in close proximity to Durham. Hillsborough used to be the answer, but it has outgrown itself. Mebane maybe is your best bet if buying a house and Saxapahaw is definitely best if you want to rent an apartment. Although Sax probably isn’t big enough to be called small.
Oooooh. I've heard of Pour, but I haven't been. Do they have the bracelet system that tracks how much you have electronically?
Indianapolis
Good: decently cheap compared to other areas around the country
The nightlife is starting to improve
Pacers and Colts
People are generally nice, the hipster community is picking up more here too
Bad:
Weather, bipolar as ****
Not a bunch to do around here other than drink and watch sports
Crime- really bad. Had a couple guys try to mug me but it didn’t end well for them. though it’s improving a bit.
Flat as ****- not a lot of nature around here unless you go to Fort Harrison or down south a little bit.
Good: decently cheap compared to other areas around the country
The nightlife is starting to improve
Pacers and Colts
People are generally nice, the hipster community is picking up more here too
Bad:
Weather, bipolar as ****
Not a bunch to do around here other than drink and watch sports
Crime- really bad. Had a couple guys try to mug me but it didn’t end well for them. though it’s improving a bit.
Flat as ****- not a lot of nature around here unless you go to Fort Harrison or down south a little bit.
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