Uh.....North Carolina

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  1. coryfly

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    In the UVA he got elbowed in the face. Bloodied him all up. So the headband is just to cover the stitches, which is why it is pulled down like that.
     
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    I’ll allow it...uggg
     
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    Doherty catches a lot of grief from UNC fans while never getting credit for recruiting the team that won the NC two years later
     
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    Yeah, he brought in the talent that Roy meshed together. I think most people now have fond feeling towards Doherty though. He was just somewhat difficult to get along with I think so rubbed many the wrong way.
     
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    Yea I always felt Roy should’ve thanked him for that title that he won with Doh’s players.
     
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    Anybody see ole Roy throw the F bomb out in the post game???Laughing
     
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    I bet he wants to say that to his players all the time. Goodness knows I do.
     
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    He also tried to fire the admins running the Afam scam. DES didn’t like that.
     
  9. Scotty00

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    I thought it was awesome!
     
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    I praise Doherty all the time. Guthridge was the problem. Doherty turned shit around. He just got a little too dirty in the trenches and rubbed people (including his players) the wrong way. But the main player he had issues with was the head case McCants (who was an amazing basketball player).
     
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    The Tar Heels are 3-5 in games in which they led by 10 or more points in the second half.

    How is this even possible? If we are 8-0 in these games, we are in the NCAA tourney.

    And most of those were double digit leads with less than like 8 minutes left too.
     
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    I think a lot of that has to come back on Roy.
     
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    North Carolina won the ACC and Doherty was national COY the season prior to going 8-20.
     
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    Even up 15 last night I just knew we’d blow it. There have been a lot of UNC teams that down 15 I had confidence we would come back. This team is the exact opposite. It’s hard to watch a team that can look okay for the first 35 minutes of so many games then forget how to play the last 5.
     
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    I think a lot of that has to come back on Roy.
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    I guess. Just not sure what he is supposed to do. He calls timeouts. He changes the pace. He tries different lineups. He tries to run different sets. Several times last night they either just dribbled to the other team or passed it right to someone. Roy is the coach so some of it is always on him. I just don’t know what else he can do. The team is just mentally weak.
     
  16. KyFaninNC

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    Karma is kicking UNC in the sack right now, well deserved, I might add. That said, I really hate it for the players who have done nothing wrong and had no part in the “no show” classes. To lose games the way they are losing is hard to watch for any fan. You can pay now or pay later, UNC’s bill is due and has to be paid.
     
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    Yep. Karma doesn’t forget.
     
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    Nah, this isn't the karma they deserve, this is just one year, they just won a title a few years ago and will be back to normal next year. This is just a bad bad season.
     
  19. coryfly

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    Lol, yeah, I think winning the whole thing a couple of years ago as a big F U to the BS scandal was the actual Karma.
     
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    John Higgins says, you are very welcome, I did my part.
     
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    But the NCAA will continue to protect UNC and they (the NCAA) should have been the big karma with vacated titles and three years probation.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    I laughed.
     
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    Best 16-loss team in the country. No doubt in my mind.
     
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    UNC fans (THR board) react to Armando Bacot's performance from last night:

    -“He’s absolutely killed us this game!”

    -“I’d pay him to leave!”

    -“Bacot needs to go where he goes and do what he does .. or doesn't do, somewhere else. He aint got a f'in clue when it comes to basketball.”

    -“Can he please just declare for the draft now?”


    -“Platek is sitting there on the bench thanking the heavens for bacot.”



    A few more interesting comments.

    -"Time to stop watching. These guys are not winners. They will lose every game from here on out. There is no hope for them. This is disgraceful."

    -“Roy and staff can take the rest of the year off. They are not having any effect on the outcome of games. These kids can lose without coaches.”

    The bolded quote is my favorite.
     
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    This thread should be renamed "UNC ; The Pile-On Thread". jumpingsmile
     
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    Exactly, this UNC team is not nearly as bad as their record, kinda mind boggling the way they are losing games this year.
     
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    As far as Karma, UNC won the title in 2017. They were vindicated by the NCAA six months later. The karma wouldn't have kicked in until they were absolved of any wrongdoing. After three seasons, they'll have just 3 NCAA Tournament wins to show.

    I seriously doubt this will last for long, so gotta enjoy it while we can. Would love to see this be a "Curse of the Bambino" type thing. "The year is 2100, and UNC hasn't won a title since 2017. Some believe the basketball gods are cursing them for a longstanding academic scandal that resulted in no NCAA penalties."
     
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    What is different about Carolina this year from my perspective, besides not having ballers at every position, is that they just aren't getting intot he standard Carolina tempo which could wear you out. Some of our better defensive teams just still gave up too many points in transition to Carolina even when they were back defending. Roy just doesn't fit the type of coach this team needs, which is someone who is going to be involved nearly every play to maximize their potential. He wants them to be natural and just score but the reality is they don't have a great PG this year. Anthony is a talent, but he takes a ton of shots that just look terrible. Granted, they don't have the offensive firepower they normally do, but I'd rather dump it in to Brooks to hopefully put them in a position to rebound like they do quite well still.
     
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    I mean, I've seen worse on DI over the years when you guys have actually been good, lol. What exactly is the relevance here?
     
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    But last year they beat the most hyped team ever two out of three times and were a run of the flu away from potentially making another run. The karma thing is fun I suppose but I don't think anyone actually believes in that, correct?

    They try and dump it down low. Problem is Bacot can't finish and they are constantly doubled because we have no real outside threats. I agree the pieces don't really fit though. The team doesn't have the bball IQ to make it work. Roy has actually tried to structure things more but the players often still don't run what they are supposed to. It is pretty frustrating.
     
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    Hi everyone, just won't to let everyone know that shun1 still LOVES & SUPPORTS his UNC TAR HEELS.

    !!!!!!!!!!!! GO TAR HEELS !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Relevant? Isn't this whole thread about North Carolina's crap season?

    Beat the most hyped team ever? First of all, Duke was preseason #4. Second of all, are you patting yourself on the back for beating Duke twice without Zion? That's like beating the Chiefs without Pat Mahomes. Funny that give your team credit for beating a team without the NPOY - yet you dismiss a loss at the same time? That seems a little inconsistent.

    And no, I don't actually believe in the karma thing. Just fun to bring it up.
     
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    But, they would have never won it all with him. No chance.

    And fwiw, the baby blue did the recruiting for Doherty. No way he won anyone over with his sparkling personality.
     
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    Why bring trash posters into this? Enough here already.
     
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    Yeah. Pretty lame.
     
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    You weren't talking about their crap season. You were taking shots at UNC fans saying dumb things about their team in the worst season they have ever had. Again, we could pull up Duke posters saying worse last year. It's pretty dumb.

    That team was as hyped as anyone. They may not have been as good but they were hyped up more than any team I can remember because of Zion and Barrett and that class, especially after that first game. I didn't think beating those guys was that big a deal. I mean, they almost lost every game in the NCAAT I think. I was just playing off the karma angle. I don't see where that is me giving them a pat of the back. Despite all the injuries this year I don't remember dismissing any loss like people did with Zion though so not sure what you mean. Maybe you meant the flu thing? They got their butts kicked that game. It wouldn't have mattered much IMO. Again, just making fun of the karma stuff.
     
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    Don't fall over while backpedaling.
     
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    Just thought it was funny. Made me chuckle at least. But, I suppose there is merit in what both of you said. There probably are enough bad posters here already.

    You didn't outright dismiss the loss, but you said that you guys "were a run of the flu away from potentially making another run." If you're going to qualify a loss because of an injury/illness, it makes sense to be consistent and qualify your wins, too. That's all I'm saying.

    As far as the hype, sure, there was a lot of it. But, they were pre-season #4. Not #1. And A LOT of people expressed concerns about the makeup of the team. I said this in March of 2018.

     
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