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What adult man is that?
It wasn't supposed to be the same. Analogies are designed to help people understand by comparing something not understood to something more familiar. They represent an effort on the part of the person putting them out there. They don't work when the other person deliberately misses the point and sabotages them.
No offense taken, just please don't use such a reference to my family again.
You can't have it both ways, claiming the person in question is a man when critiquing participating in a women's sport, but calling the same person "she" and "her."
There's no worthwhile, respectful conversation to be had with you on those terms.
I feel like she is a she.
She feels like she is a he, yet competes in a women's sport. This is what confuses me.
No offense was taken. Just please don't reference my family in that way again. Thanks for understanding.
I guess I don't understand then.
What's the objection if not for offense?
And what way is "in that way," exactly?
I don't think it's necessary to use one's family to take shots at them. I thought you agreed with that?
Datt is a gentleman. Personally, I’d say sack up. Way worse has been said about my fam.
There was a thread where Bert used Datt’s family to make a point and Datt asked him to never reference his family (which is fine). I’d just appreciate the same standards (which Datt appears to understand).
Feel free to reference my family. My bitch of a wife doesn’t believe I was unfairly targeted (#metoo) and I’m losing the house in the Hamptons
God made adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!
God I heard that stupid phrase growing up in a ridiculously religious family whenever this type of topic was ever brought up. Normally, I wouldn't be able to stress how little I care if someone wants to do something that has long been considered wrong if it makes that person happy. However, I don't think this person should be allowed to compete in any competitive sport.
If I'm wrong then please correct me, but in any other instance, if a player is found out to be taking large doses of testosterone, it would be considered doping. Now, if they hadn't taken the testosterone, but still went through the whole surgical process...I wouldn't personally care either way.
The only exception I possibly could think of is if the other player's in the league didn't care. But even with that, I still don't think it should be allowed. In regards to the woman's league, I cant think of any plausible reason they should be allowed to compete.
God I heard that stupid phrase growing up in a ridiculously religious family whenever this type of topic was ever brought up. Normally, I wouldn't be able to stress how little I care if someone wants to do something that has long been considered wrong if it makes that person happy. However, I don't think this person should be allowed to compete in any competitive sport.
If I'm wrong then please correct me, but in any other instance, if a player is found out to be taking large doses of testosterone, it would be considered doping. Now, if they hadn't taken the testosterone, but still went through the whole surgical process...I wouldn't personally care either way.
The only exception I possibly could think of is if the other player's in the league didn't care. But even with that, I still don't think it should be allowed. In regards to the woman's league, I cant think of any plausible reason they should be allowed to compete.
Dont feel bad, his post was an obvious troll post to try and paint it like if you dont 100% conform to every possible thought process from the left then you're one of those dreaded "isms " that is thrown around in every discussion.
You're not being disrespectful at all and was open with your confusion from the beginning. Nowadays, its nearly impossible to not be confused at the current protocolfor each individual topic.
It's nice to see you already trying to get him to physically attack his wife this early in the thread!
Seriously, do think its clever to try and make bad joke about that topic? But yet, you're fine acting morally superior to Hail because he has a honest and valid question. There hasn't been a moment in this thread where anything he's posted has been offensive, or insulting. He vary clearly asked a question that a large section of our society has also thought about how it should be handled.
They also dont work when the person putting out the analogy used a horrible example, or when that person is trying to act morally superior .
Damn dude.....you have no idea how badly this post had gone over my head lmao. Thankfully, before I made a huge ass out of myself with a comment about your post I finally figured it out lol.
It was clever, cheers!
It's a perfect example of how the less formal a situation is, the less rigid the rules are. As for moral superiority, wail's weak attempt to turn it into a case of my beating up on smaller kids is more egregious.
And you're waddling in to attack the medium of the person you disagree with, of course.
Wrong. Quote it, liar.
You're lying here, too, but I got this one; it's right in this thread:
To take shots at whom?
You brought your wife into this, and instead of talking to her about it, you're playing the troll here. You're pretending to be so confused, when instead you have a very clear, completely douchy stance on this.
So, let's assume you're correct about it being a troll post, why is his stance douchy?
Dear God, dude, you're an arrogant ass! So because he might gave a different opinion than you, it's a douchy stance?
You're worse the the religious freak whose knocking on my door. At least in their minds, the reason their annoying is because they want to help someone. However, your only goal is to try and act like a morally superior hypocritical asshole.
If you have male equipment you are a male.
If you have female equipment you are a female.
We, as a society, need to stop the damned games.
A female taking male hormones should be disqualified to play sports as a female.
I don't know what you're talking about, it never seemed he said anything about not wanting his family talked about here.
He'll, either hide from this until people forget, or try and come up with some stupid reason why its different.
In a thread 3 weeks ago, Bert made that comment about Dattier's family. Dattier politely asked Bert to not reference his family in such a way. We had a couple pages going about how using family members in personal attacks is douchey.
Which made it surprising for me to see Dattier use my wife in a personal attack on me.
oh I agree...its the great thing about the search function....its always so easy to hold someone accountable for being a hypocrite.
I have a long time good friend who briefly dated a girl about 10 years ago. Emo type girl. After the brief fling he lost touch with her for about 6-8 years when she moved. He ran back into her when she/he was a little over 12 months into the transition. This was about 18 months ago. So now that she identifies as a man , she still likes men. So we razzed him a bit , hell he razzed himself a bit by telling us it was happening.
My question is simple........ Is the girl that was transitioning and might be finished transitioning by now , I don't know? Is he a gay man?
First, you left out the particular way it was used. It's not as simple as never mentioning family, period, and you misrepresented that, creating a strawman.
Second, you brought your wife into this. The person you're pretending to be so confused by is/was her teammate. You've received explanations and are still pretending to be confused. I suggested you ask your wife. I suspect she doesn't have a problem w/ her teammate -- my explanation all along -- and that it follows that you can't handle that conversation, so you're taking out your frustrations here. Not at all the same as profaning my family, which bert did. (I notice you didn't quote what he said -- more evidence you lack any integrity or courage.)
Third, I apologized twice and it still wasn't good enough for you. When was the last time you apologized for anything? Did bert ever back off and honor my polite request?
Wow...you went out of your way to point out anything hail left out in his post, but then you conveniently left out when you told him to go smack around his wife. And before you say it, I don't think you were really telling him to go beat on his wife. Instead, it seems like you tried to use an absolutely disgusting joke (especially with everything going on right now about this) to question some guys manhood.
After all of that, you have the ability to think you've got a better moral compass. Seriously, seeing you preach to someone about integrity and their manhood will be the funniest thing seen today on this forum!
So cheers, you've got that going for you!
I asked you to never use my family in order to try and prove your points and/or insult me. I think that's at least in the same realm of what you were asking Bert to stop doing in the future.
I mentioned my wife because it was a player on her rugby team. That doesn't make using my family to insult me fair game, at least not after the conclusion I thought we came to in the last thread.
You apologized and I'm good with that. I just don't see the need to reference my family again after apologizing. It makes me wonder if your apology was sincere.
No, you didn't. You said "in that way," a direct quote from how I phrased it, and in a mocking tone. I apologized anyway without further comment. Twice.
And then you refused to accept answers here. So ask her why they allowed their teammate to continue playing on a women's team.
Reference her again how? After you claimed I understood something I didn't and I sought clarity?
I don't wonder at all whether your request I not mention her was sincere or not. I know it wasn't. I apologized anyway and won't do it again, once I understand what "in that way" means.
