Should WVU or MSU be ranked #1 after today?
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Stay humble fellow WVU fan. It's not like we beat a team we weren't supposed to beat. We should be 4th.
Let's compare:
Losses - MSU to Duke by 7. West Virginia to Texas A&M by 23
Advantage clearly MSU
Best wins - MSU over UNC by 18 and 18 over a healthy Notre Dame. West Virginia by 7 over Virginia and 13 over Oklahoma
Advantage slight to WVU
I'd lean MSU.
Losses - MSU to Duke by 7. West Virginia to Texas A&M by 23
Advantage clearly MSU
Best wins - MSU over UNC by 18 and 18 over a healthy Notre Dame. West Virginia by 7 over Virginia and 13 over Oklahoma
Advantage slight to WVU
I'd lean MSU.
Maryland was 13-3 when they came to East Lansing Thursday. They got beat by 30.
I’m hesitant to make this comparison this early in the season, but this MSU team reminds me a lot of the ‘09 Tar Heels. Not in any personnel similarities, but in how talented, versatile and deep they were. It’s not that they were always unbeatable...it’s just that when they decided to dial in, they were unbeatable.
I saw that UNC up close and personal at the NC game. They were a machine. I’m seeing that starting to come through in this MSU team.
I’m hesitant to make this comparison this early in the season, but this MSU team reminds me a lot of the ‘09 Tar Heels. Not in any personnel similarities, but in how talented, versatile and deep they were. It’s not that they were always unbeatable...it’s just that when they decided to dial in, they were unbeatable.
I saw that UNC up close and personal at the NC game. They were a machine. I’m seeing that starting to come through in this MSU team.
I saw that Nova team play a very average Butler team.
Disagree.
Havent seen much of MSU.
Butler was 15/22 from three in that one... Would we beat them at home? I think we can take anyone at home
Agreed, home team would be favored in those matchups or at least a toss up. MSU has posted some pretty insane def FG % numbers, it would be really tough to beat them. I legitimately think they run the table in their conference
This same comparison keeps popping in my head when I watch MSU. There is a long way to go but this team can be dominate. But one off night and you're done.
Not to mention the level of dominance MSU has won by. Not a single game within ten. Beat Notre Dame and UNC by 18. Beat Maryland by 30.
Thing is, the odds of an off-night go way down when you’re running 10 deep and everybody plays together. The fact that they assist on 75% of buckets is a great indicator. Not standing around hoping a guy goes off.
Every team every year is beatable so I'm not sure what you mean by this. MSU is playing the best right now, they have talent, experience, and a lot of length. They should be #1 imo.
Every team is beatable. MSU is close to dominant though. Close.
MSU is clearly the best team in the nation based on what I've seen thus far.
OSU went on a little run, then Izzo got a T with 15 sec left, then Winston shot with 5 sec left, then OSU hit a 35’ shot at the buzzer
Down 21.
So much for that dominant Mich State team.
So much for that dominant Mich State team.
That too
Speaking to this game (in contrast with a veteran ‘09 Heels squad), this is what you sometimes get with a young team. When the wheels wobble a little against a good team on the road, they’re as likely to come off completely as they are to tighten back up.
The 09 Heels still lost 4 games that year, but were never blown out. We’ll see now what MSU does with this. Wake-up call, or potential issue?
Perhaps. Would be interesting to see how nova would have fared if AZ/Purdue didn't both lose in the Bahamas. WVU has the better wins thus far.
Big week for both teams with nova getting X and WVU at TTU
Can't really use being young as an excuse in college hoops anymore. Most of the good teans are young.
Wvu has a freshman and 7 sophs (most are first year juco kids or barely played last year) in their top 10.
I don’t see potential issue. MSU checks every box. Athleticism, size, shooting, depth, chemistry.
Just a shit game.
I understand the excitement for WVU. Hell I think WVU is a top 5 team and wins the Big 12 by 2-3 games. But when fans start pumping their chests out like WVU fans are doing this weekend it usually ends bad for them. Either they lose early and in terrible fashion in the tournament or worse case their team doesn't handle being the "hunted" well and they fall apart 2nd half. Seen it many times. Good luck WVU.
Well, that’s the other box that still needs to be checked: handling adversity
It’s one thing to lose. It’s another thing to get stomped out.
I have this as a question mark moving forward, rather than stating unequivocally that they can’t handle adversity. If this is a one-off (‘00 team lost to Wright State), and they learn from it, then that bodes well. If it happens a couple more times, we might have an issue.
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