Any of the SEC brethren have any thoughts on this?
https://www.aseaofblue.com/2020/4/2...ketball-sec-mark-whitehead-referees-ncaa-refs
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Did you know Higgins started the COVID-19 because UK had a shot to win the championship & he wanted to stop them anyway he could?Wouldn’t it be funny if Higgins got the job?
What did UK fans do to him?
He stepped down before we got a chance.What did UK fans do to him?
Wouldn’t it be funny if Higgins got the job?
Any of the SEC brethren have any thoughts on this?
https://www.aseaofblue.com/2020/4/2...ketball-sec-mark-whitehead-referees-ncaa-refs
AUnit, you are basketball stupid. Pure and simple.Well, the referees that are constantly assigned to the officiate SEC games are god awful. Completely inconsistent and incompetent. So i say good riddance.
Lol at kentucky. It's always the refs fault when they lose. They get more preferential treatment than any team in the SEC but always act like shameless martyrs. Fanbase full of cake eaters.
For real, though, they are one of the best fanbases in the SEC. But they do complain a lot.
Just out of curiosity . . . what kind of cake are we talking here?Fanbase full of cake eaters.
Serious question, why is it that the SEC allegedly “hates” Kentucky? Kentucky being good is good for the SEC, no? It draws eyes and ears I’d assume
I don't think any sane UK fans really believe this.Serious question, why is it that the SEC allegedly “hates” Kentucky? Kentucky being good is good for the SEC, no? It draws eyes and ears I’d assume
Serious question, why is it that the SEC allegedly “hates” Kentucky? Kentucky being good is good for the SEC, no? It draws eyes and ears I’d assume
It’s not good for the conference if one team dominates. Trying to get the other fanbases invested in basketball. Jmo.
And I don’t think sec brass “hate” Kentucky. It’s just business.
PAC loves USC football.Serious question, why is it that the SEC allegedly “hates” Kentucky? Kentucky being good is good for the SEC, no? It draws eyes and ears I’d assume
PAC loves USC football.
PAC loves UCLA basketball.
Big 12 loves Oklahoma football.
Big 12 loves Kansas basketball.
ACC loves Florida State and Clemson football.
ACC loves Duke and Carolina basketball.
Big 10 loves Ohio State football.
Big 10 loves Michigan State basketball.
SEC loves Alabama football.
SEC HATES Kentucky basketball.
All of these except for one of them is commonly accepted sports logic. Can you guess the one that’s not commonly accepted?
That was a response specifically made for Wojo.Schoonerwest, I actually tried to give some perspective and you come back with this line of bull. I was not lying about John Guthrie.
Do you have first hand knowledge of a similar vein? Have you spoken to the current or past supervisors of officials in the Big 12? Big Ten.
I haveSchoonerwest, I actually tried to give some perspective and you come back with this line of bull. I was not lying about John Guthrie.
Do you have first hand knowledge of a similar vein? Have you spoken to the current or past supervisors of officials in the Big 12? Big Ten.
Nope. Rather John was being sarcastic..Or drunk.WojoRising, I agree with what Montana posted. It is not hate for Kentucky basketball but a desire for other teams to share some of the success.
I sat with John Guthrie, the ex-Georgia basketball coach and 25-year supervisor of officials several games. One was at Florida when he was supervisor of officials. There was a horrible call on Kentucky, and I protested. He patted me on the leg and advised me that there was no such thing as a bad call against Kentucky. If the call was “against Kentucky” it was a good call.
He hated losing all the time to Kentucky. It showed. I asked him why he was biased, and he plainly said he did not want them to win. Kentucky had spanked his ass so long he did not even try to be fair or even.
By the way, John Guthrie was a great fellow to be around, but he was biased out the ass.
Maybe. I just can’t fathom anyone caring if Alabama and Vanderbilt are competitive, outside of those respective schools. It’s just my opinion, but a great Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, etc. does more for college basketball and the respective conferences than increased competition ever could. Kentucky being #1 in the country has to draw more eyes to the SEC than Georgia having a shot at winning the conference ever could.It’s not good for the conference if one team dominates. Trying to get the other fanbases invested in basketball. Jmo.
And I don’t think sec brass “hate” Kentucky. It’s just business.
Conference's are about winning, and making money. UK does both.Maybe. I just can’t fathom anyone caring if Alabama and Vanderbilt are competitive, outside of those respective schools. It’s just my opinion, but a great Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, etc. does more for college basketball and the respective conferences than increased competition ever could. Kentucky being #1 in the country has to draw more eyes to the SEC than Georgia having a shot at winning the conference ever could.
SEC loves them some baseball too, brother. Ole Miss is unreal.....Miss St students are great. Creative as ****.SEC loves football. Hates basketball. SEC loves Albama. SEC hates Kentucky.
Simple.
Borden, I am trying to be honest. John was not drunk or sarcastic. Every time he was on official SEC business using the tickets provided they the home school.Nope. Rather John was being sarcastic..Or drunk.
Just curiois..Do you think there's an official alive that DOESN'T hate UK?
Bert I do not doubt your honesty, and or attempt at it. I just think you are misunderstood. I am quite sure---`100% to be exact, that there are officials out there, that can be.,and or, are biased. John wasn't of that cloth, brother. One of the highest people of integrity that I ever met, or heard spoke of. I was getting into officiating in 2005; college level. He was a guest of Tony Greene's. As we were sitting in class, he walks in, points to me, and about 4 others."Change your shirts." Huh? "Change your shirts". Mine said Indiana basketball, two others said Alabama; cannot recall the last. His point was----"You cannot give someone, something,to think you are not fair. Not even someone from this room.".Borden, I am trying to be honest. John was not drunk or sarcastic. Every time he was on official SEC business using the tickets provided they the home school.
Say any thing you choose, you will not change the facts.
I hope that it gets better in the SEC.
SEC loves them some baseball too, brother. Ole Miss is unreal.....Miss St students are great. Creative as ****.
John hated Kentucky.Bert I do not doubt your honesty, and or attempt at it. I just think you are misunderstood. I am quite sure---`100% to be exact, that there are officials out there, that can be.,and or, are biased. John wasn't of that cloth, brother. One of the highest people of integrity that I ever met, or heard spoke of. I was getting into officiating in 2005; college level. He was a guest of Tony Greene's. As we were sitting in class, he walks in, points to me, and about 4 others."Change your shirts." Huh? "Change your shirts". Mine said Indiana basketball, two others said Alabama; cannot recall the last. His point was----"You cannot give someone, something,to think you are not fair. Not even someone from this room.".
Ultimate respect for that guy. May he rest in peace.
Hating, and acting on that hate is two different things. I didn't know him that well. He passed shortly after I got into officiating. BUT....from the encounters I had with him, lack of integrity isn't something that seemed to lack.John hated Kentucky.
At first I was like----"WTF is Montana talking about..."im not one of those guys though. I complain about the whistle we get in maybe 2 games a year and have more than owned up to when we get a good whistle and win because of it.
I just know what makes the world go round. $$$$. Money comes before holding a legit competition. And if sec or the people that run it can get those massive football fanbases in the south more interested in basketball they’d stand to make a hell of a lot more money off the sport.
Kentucky fans will be invested no matter what. We’ve traveled for nit games and led the nation in attendance in some of our worst years. And the people that run the sport know that.
edit: I realize I replied to the wrong post but I’m sure you figured out the context
He hated Kentucky and he acted it out without any integrity. Sorry Borden. I have a longer history of SEC basketball than you.Hating, and acting on that hate is two different things. I didn't know him that well. He passed shortly after I got into officiating. BUT....from the encounters I had with him, lack of integrity isn't something that seemed to lack.
Then again, I don't think the world is out to get my basketball team....
Just b/c you are older, doesn't mean you have a longer history...And I'm sorry ...I did not realize that you had the same discussions I had(with JOhn). Or listened to the stories, upon stories,of his unrivaled integrity/morals. The standard he required officials to abide by, just makes it very hard to believe the guy would ever encourage cheating someone.He hated Kentucky and he acted it out without any integrity. Sorry Borden. I have a longer history of SEC basketball than you.
The next things you will be telling me is the Gerald Baudreaux was an honest broker in SEC officiating
Jesus, fella....That game has scarred you guys. Fuuuuuuck.that the Indiana fans have never stormed the court.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-ba...71/college-basketball-court-storing-2014-2015Jesus, fella....That game has scarred you guys. Fuuuuuuck.
BTW, If UK fans stormed the court, it would cause nursing homes to be overran with patients...
https://www.sbnation.com/college-ba...71/college-basketball-court-storing-2014-2015
Every program has stormed the court.
I knew his son. Very well. His son is a great person. But hell, maybe the apple does fall far from the tree.Borden, end of discussion. I knew John.