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Rosanne Lamar Bee Left/Right Slugjam

Oh stop. You ask a question. I give you an honest answer. Sorry that I don't get all upset a comedienne using a bad word to punctuate a joke about a public figure. I can't think of ANY joke or standup act I've ever been offended by. Don't be a bitch about it.

And I have no idea what cages you are talking about.
Okay dude. You are siding with Bee that Ivanka shouldn't post pictures of her and her son when children are being held in detention centers because she is in the position she is on. Obama was in the highest of positions while children were being held in cages. Were you upset with him for posting pictures of their daughters from Hawaii?
 
I’ve seen liberal after liberal excuse the heads of the Democratic Party for not commenting on those violent riots. Do you think Obama should have condemned them?

Violent riots with racial hatred crimes being committed and businesses being burnt to the ground seem a bit more concerning to me than a struggling actress and making a racist tweet.

I think presidents should condemn violent riots. I don’t see the need for presidents to correct every celebrity who says something stupid.


Yeah, he should of condemned them.
 
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Okay dude. You are siding with Bee that Ivanka shouldn't post pictures of her and her son when children are being held in detention centers because she is in the position she is on. Obama was in the highest of positions while children were being held in cages. Were you upset with him for posting pictures of their daughters from Hawaii?

No, Ivanka can post whatever she wants, whenever she wants. If she wants to post a great picture of her and her kid, a celebration of motherhood, thats lovely.

But if she really values motherhood and all of that, she SHOULD spend some of her CONSIDERABLE power doing something about OTHER mothers and children who are being pulled apart for no REAL reason at this very moment, if she is being genuine and not just posting for PR reasons.

And a comedienne with a political talk show can take a shot at her, even a crass shot.. and frankly I think it is far more worthwhile in that it is a shot/joke with some substance, rather than just some meaningless fluff joke about big boobs or whatever. As I said, I cannot think of any stand up act or whatever that I've been offended by, political or not, and I have a lot of leeway for political stuff.

I'm sorry; I know you are really offended by this. I am not. Feel free to find some right wing comedians and post their jokes, and I can weigh in on those and see if it is just about what political side I take, or if I just give a lot more leeway for some things than you.

Again, I have no idea what you are talking about, with Obama cages. Link?
 
And the NFL players kneeling didn't have nothing to do with him.
Well, you’re wrong. One has to do with the flag, and the perception of disrespect towards our service men and women and the country. The other, was a comment by an actor that has nothing to do with anything. Nice try though.
 
They really are a shit stain on the country. Especially her. Talk about c u next Tuesday’s.

You know I love you, but Sam Bee is funny as BALLS. Same with John Oliver, John Stewart, Colbert... and not just funny, but informed.
 
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No, Ivanka can post whatever she wants, whenever she wants. If she wants to post a great picture of her and her kid, a celebration of motherhood, thats lovely.

But if she really values motherhood and all of that, she SHOULD spend some of her CONSIDERABLE power doing something about OTHER mothers and children who are being pulled apart for no REAL reason at this very moment, if she is being genuine and not just posting for PR reasons.

And a comedienne with a political talk show can take a shot at her, even a crass shot.. and frankly I think it is far more worthwhile in that it is a shot/joke with some substance, rather than just some meaningless fluff joke about big boobs or whatever. As I said, I cannot think of any stand up act or whatever that I've been offended by, political or not, and I have a lot of leeway for political stuff.

I'm sorry; I know you are really offended by this. I am not. Feel free to find some right wing comedians and post their jokes, and I can weigh in on those and see if it is just about what political side I take, or if I just give a lot more leeway for some things than you.

Again, I have no idea what you are talking about, with Obama cages. Link?
So Michelle Obama, by your standards, doesn't value motherhood. Got ya.
 
Oh stop. You ask a question. I give you an honest answer. Sorry that I don't get all upset a comedienne using a bad word to punctuate a joke about a public figure while making a point about a pretty serious issue. I can't think of ANY joke or standup act I've ever been offended by. Maybe when Kramer started shouting about ******s? Don't be a bitch about it.

And I have no idea what cages you are talking about.

Oh, yeah, you’re certainly the poster boy for never being offended............ lol
 
You know I love you, but Sam Bee is funny as BALLS. Same with John Oliver, John Stewart, Colbert... and not just funny, but informed.
I think all are funny too----but at the same time, they rarely break rank and hammer their own political side when they really need grilling. Sure, they do some pieces to not be 100% anti Red, but the percentages are about 99 to 1%. They are funny and have incredible writers behind them--but they shouldn't be viewed as credible when they ignore their own trash.
 
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Well, you’re wrong. One has to do with the flag, and the perception of disrespect towards our service men and women and the country. The other, was a comment by an actor that has nothing to do with anything. Nice try though.


No I'm not wrong. As a 20 year Naval veteran I had no problem with it along with a lot of veterans that I know. No disrespect towards the military or the flag. Keep trying....
 
I think all are funny too----but at the same time, they rarely break rank and hammer their own political side when they really need grilling. Sure, they do some pieces to not be 100% anti Red, but the percentages are about 99 to 1%. They are funny and have incredible writers behind them--but they shouldn't be viewed as credible when they ignore their own trash.

Ehhh... not sure that is entirely true. For SURE they go after the right FAR more than the left, but I watched the Daily Show and Colbert for YEARS, and when someone on the left did something super dumb, they went after them. Keep in mind, it was still 80/20, but...

Jesus, I remember watching the Daily Show when it was Stewart and his two main guys were Colbert and Carell. I LOVED that show, but in retrospect it's like... well, yeah... look at who was doing that damn show.

BTW, SNL's Ambiguously Gay Duo? Colbert and Carell also.

https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/...-The-Dark-Clenched-Hole-of-EVil-TV-FUN-HOUSE/
 
No I'm not wrong. As a 20 year Naval veteran I had no problem with it along with a lot of veterans that I know. No disrespect towards the military or the flag. Keep trying....
That’s cool that YOU don’t have an issue with it. Problem is, MILLIONS of American DID have a problem with it. And to be honest, they don’t give a shit what YOU care about because they’re free to make their own judgements. I know plenty of veterans who DO have a problem with it. So again, yes, yes you are wrong. One involves the perception of disrespect towards our flag and country while the other is an actor with no direct ties to anything.
 
That’s cool that YOU don’t have an issue with it. Problem is, MILLIONS of American DID have a problem with it. And to be honest, they don’t give a shit what YOU care about because they’re free to make their own judgements. I know plenty of veterans who DO have a problem with it. So again, yes, yes you are wrong. One involves the perception of disrespect towards our flag and country while the other is an actor with no direct ties to anything.

Millions of Americans didn't have a problem with it either.
 
Millions of Americans didn't have a problem with it either.
Agreed. But millions do which is the difference. You tried to tie the Roseanne comment to the kneeling during the national anthem. They aren’t even on the same planet. One involves the country, one doesn’t just like I said.
 
Ehhh... not sure that is entirely true. For SURE they go after the right FAR more than the left, but I watched the Daily Show and Colbert for YEARS, and when someone on the left did something super dumb, they went after them. Keep in mind, it was still 80/20, but...

Jesus, I remember watching the Daily Show when it was Stewart and his two main guys were Colbert and Carell. I LOVED that show, but in retrospect it's like... well, yeah... look at who was doing that damn show.

BTW, SNL's Ambiguously Gay Duo? Colbert and Carell also.

https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/...-The-Dark-Clenched-Hole-of-EVil-TV-FUN-HOUSE/
Haha didn't realize that was colbert and steve. I don't cheer for politicians on either side, so it doesn't anger me to hear them get made fun of----esp hilary and ted cruz. But so much of the media is slanted towards one side it kinda gets old. Its like hearing savage and limbaugh hate on obama incessantly for the pettiest shit and have wild conspiracies that embarrass an entire voting population. At some point it just gets old.
 
Agreed. But millions do which is the difference. You tried to tie the Roseanne comment to the kneeling during the national anthem. They aren’t even on the same planet. One involves the country, one doesn’t just like I said.


Again he comments on everything else, he should of said something about the Roseanne drama but he didn't. He picks and chooses on what he wants to comment on to benefit him.
 
@TheDude1

This is what started the outrage towards Ivanka posting a picture of her and her son. This is how UNinformed Bee is despite you saying she is informed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com...detained-at-the-placement-center-in-2014/amp/

Uh... I don't see anything about those photos being connected to what Bee said. It seems Bee was responding to a policy implemented by Jeff Sessions about a month ago. There is no mention of those photos in her monologue, and I don't see any use of them in her segment, but maybe I missed it. I think you are wrong, and seem to be confusing two different things.

Now, if other people were using those as a way to go after Trump, that's dumb if they are from the Obama time. I hate when people do that, on either side... before you post a photo of something, check to make sure it is of what you say it is of.

As far as what they show... yeah, that's terrible. I have a lot of empathy for people trying to come to the US for a better life; we have a pretty great thing going on here. And shit... kids? Unfortunately you have people in this country who really oppose any border security spending that is aimed at making anything kinder or easier for the people caught; they want guards and guns and walls, and **** those illegals; it's their fault for not leaving their kids behind when trying to get to a better place. That's shitty, whether it is a Democrat pushing that or a Republican pushing that; kids are kids, and you've gotta do your best to take care of them, even if they are not AMERICAN kids... FFS, they are people, and if you are a decent person, you should believe that.
 
Again he comments on everything else, he should of said something about the Roseanne drama but he didn't. He picks and chooses on what he wants to comment on to benefit him.
I think you are right on this one......and it seems like POTUS have a track record of this, and I don't think its right. To me, its trying to protect votes. I believe Obama and Trump have the same habit of swallowing their tongue when it might affect their voting base. Shows a lack of integrity.
 
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Haha didn't realize that was colbert and steve. I don't cheer for politicians on either side, so it doesn't anger me to hear them get made fun of----esp hilary and ted cruz. But so much of the media is slanted towards one side it kinda gets old. Its like hearing savage and limbaugh hate on obama incessantly for the pettiest shit and have wild conspiracies that embarrass an entire voting population. At some point it just gets old.
It's a great quality to be able to laugh at people making fun of someone you might support. This is a clip from our cartoon president. Show absolutely rips Trump and republicans, but it's absolutely hilarious.

 
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I think you are right on this one......and it seems like POTUS have a track record of this, and I don't think its right. To me, its trying to protect votes. I believe Obama and Trump have the same habit of swallowing their tongue when it might affect their voting base. Shows a lack of integrity.

Both sides, and indeed all people, do it to a certain extent. One thing that gets Trump is that he is SOOOOO vocal about SOOO much, and in a way that is so immediate (he tweets about the WITCH HUNT like fifteen times a day it seems)... and he gets SO upset about the things he doesn't approve of. It makes the silences more noticeable than with Obama or Bush or whoever, who were generally boring and didn't say a lot.

BTW... speaking of Presidents and public statements... its been 469 days since Trump help a press conference. That's nutty.
 
Uh... I don't see anything about those photos being connected to what Bee said. It seems Bee was responding to a policy implemented by Jeff Sessions about a month ago. There is no mention of those photos in her monologue, and I don't see any use of them in her segment, but maybe I missed it. I think you are wrong, and seem to be confusing two different things.

Now, if other people were using those as a way to go after Trump, that's dumb if they are from the Obama time. I hate when people do that, on either side... before you post a photo of something, check to make sure it is of what you say it is of.

As far as what they show... yeah, that's terrible. I have a lot of empathy for people trying to come to the US for a better life; we have a pretty great thing going on here. And shit... kids? Unfortunately you have people in this country who really oppose any border security spending that is aimed at making anything kinder or easier for the people caught; they want guards and guns and walls, and **** those illegals; it's their fault for not leaving their kids behind when trying to get to a better place. That's shitty, whether it is a Democrat pushing that or a Republican pushing that; kids are kids, and you've gotta do your best to take care of them, even if they are not AMERICAN kids... FFS, they are people, and if you are a decent person, you should believe that.
Those photos are what started the outrage towards Ivanka posting pictures of her and her son on social media. Maybe Bee didn't say anything about it in her monologue, but she wasn't the one that started the outrage, she continued it.
 
Again he comments on everything else, he should of said something about the Roseanne drama but he didn't. He picks and chooses on what he wants to comment on to benefit him.
I don’t think he needed to comment on it at all. It’s perfectly fine for him to comment on whatever he wants or doesn’t want to.
 
Those photos are what started the outrage towards Ivanka posting pictures of her and her son on social media. Maybe Bee didn't say anything about it in her monologue, but she wasn't the one that started the outrage, she continued it.

I don't think those photos did start it. I mean, I've been hearing about this for a month, since Sessions went with that whole "prosecute parents" thing. It seems these photos became a "thing" like two days ago. Now, this is my wife's field and her passion so obviously I'll hear about it, but the whole policy has been a BIG deal among people who pay attention since it started a month ago.

People posted pictures of kids in cages and got all upset, and were wrong about when those pictures were from. Okay; stupid, and they should check stuff before they run with it. That doesn't change the fact that the White House and Justice implemented a new policy that pulls kids away from their parents. Apparently 1,500 kids got "lost" last year, and they ended up who-knows-where, including with human traffickers. I think you are missing the forest for the trees a bit here.
 
On a side note . . . anyone notice how the political rallies/violence of last summer have stopped? Why? What changed?

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I don't think those photos did start it. I mean, I've been hearing about this for a month, since Sessions went with that whole "prosecute parents" thing. It seems these photos became a "thing" like two days ago. Now, this is my wife's field and her passion so obviously I'll hear about it, but the whole policy has been a BIG deal among people who pay attention since it started a month ago.

People posted pictures of kids in cages and got all upset, and were wrong about when those pictures were from. Okay; stupid, and they should check stuff before they run with it. That doesn't change the fact that the White House and Justice implemented a new policy that pulls kids away from their parents. Apparently 1,500 kids got "lost" last year, and they ended up who-knows-where, including with human traffickers. I think you are missing the forest for the trees a bit here.
Well. No sense in continuing this. You defend Bee even though her comments were not made in the form of comedy, and you refuse to see the hypocrisy in what started the outrage to begin with.

Dems need to get off their asses and make a deal instead of resisting. Maybe that will help move things along.
 
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It's a great quality to be able to laugh at people making fun of someone you might support. This is a clip from our cartoon president. Show absolutely rips Trump and republicans, but it's absolutely hilarious.

Thats pretty good. Ive always maintained that Trump, as a general person...is in large part a POS. I just happened to think his policies were superior in every way to obama/clinton/sanders. I wont stand behind anything he has done or says---I wish we had someone who would just go to work and avoid the petty crap. If trump were a classmate, I would probably end up fighting him b/c he is galactically douchey. But I'll admit, I don't know what I would do if he was a family member.
 
On a side note . . . anyone notice how the political rallies/violence of last summer have stopped? Why? What changed?

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Maybe they used up all their sick days....either that or they came to an epiphany how stupid they made their cause look....kinda kidding, kinda not.
 
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No, Ivanka can post whatever she wants, whenever she wants. If she wants to post a great picture of her and her kid, a celebration of motherhood, thats lovely.

But if she really values motherhood and all of that, she SHOULD spend some of her CONSIDERABLE power doing something about OTHER mothers and children who are being pulled apart for no REAL reason at this very moment, if she is being genuine and not just posting for PR reasons.

And a comedienne with a political talk show can take a shot at her, even a crass shot.. and frankly I think it is far more worthwhile in that it is a shot/joke with some substance, rather than just some meaningless fluff joke about big boobs or whatever. As I said, I cannot think of any stand up act or whatever that I've been offended by, political or not, and I have a lot of leeway for political stuff.

I'm sorry; I know you are really offended by this. I am not. Feel free to find some right wing comedians and post their jokes, and I can weigh in on those and see if it is just about what political side I take, or if I just give a lot more leeway for some things than you.

Again, I have no idea what you are talking about, with Obama cages. Link?
I think you would be singing a little different tune if a conservative comedian called Michelle obama a feckless **** b/c she took pics of her daughter on vacation while her husband could have been freeing immigrants in detention centers. Come on man, comedian or not---you think it would have rolled off the medias back if someone called michelle or one of her daughters a feckless ****??? Would that person have a job?
 
I think you would be singing a little different tune if a conservative comedian called Michelle obama a feckless **** b/c she took pics of her daughter on vacation while her husband could have been freeing immigrants in detention centers. Come on man, comedian or not---you think it would have rolled off the medias back if someone called michelle or one of her daughters a feckless ****??? Would that person have a job?

As I already said earlier in this thread, I am sure it is colored by my politics... I very well might have a different reaction if the shoe was on the other foot. That's how people work. I might also have the same reaction; I suspect I would feel that the actual issue is FAR more important than a bad word regardless. When it comes to comedy and bad words, I have a really, really, really, REALLY high tolerance.
 
As I already said earlier in this thread, I am sure it is colored by my politics... I very well might have a different reaction if the shoe was on the other foot. That's how people work. I might also have the same reaction; I suspect I would feel that the actual issue is FAR more important than a bad word regardless. When it comes to comedy and bad words, I have a really, really, really, REALLY high tolerance.
Oh, and I agree....but hasn't roseanne done stand up comedy? I think most found it inappropriate enough it was fine for her to get an entire show and syndication cancelled...but another comedian can call someone like the presidents daughter, who does nothing offensive like her father, a feckless **** and just issue an apology? Seems to be a little bit of a double standard. Comedy crosses all types of lines, and thats what makes it funny. But it seems like there is a double standard that exists. I don't care for either comedian/actress involved....and honestly its refreshing for idiots to be held accountable for their actions. Hell I love louis CK---kills me he was such a creep. But if he ever comes out with new stuff---i'd watch it. It just gets old when outrage is vented over stupid shit all the time and lands very different consequences.
 
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