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Every single time.It poses the question, would you be okay if your team was a number one that loses to a 16 if it would mean the championship the next year?
It poses the question, would you be okay if your team was a number one that loses to a 16 if it would mean the championship the next year?
Absolutely. Us Kansas fans can kind of relate since we had first round losses as a high seed in 2005 and 2006. Winning the title in 2008 completely erased any of that negativity we had towards Self for losing those games.It poses the question, would you be okay if your team was a number one that loses to a 16 if it would mean the championship the next year?
Most people on this board are not mentally tough enough to handle a loss to a 16 seed.
The joy of winning it all trumped the misery of losing to a 16 seed for me. I’m not sure the championship feels as good without that loss though.
Just due to witnessing 4 titles in my life time.How could you possibly know that?
Just due to witnessing 4 titles in my life time.
Fair enough. I know what's like to rise from ashes (early pitino years), and also get back to the top of the game after two duds, (Smith, Gillispie). Granted neither of those are on the level of losing to a 16 seed.But you've never witnessed one after a historic loss. So you can't really be certain that the joy you felt after winning championships equals the joy of winning one after losing to a 16 seed. Similarly, I don't know what winning a championship before a historic loss feels like so maybe they are the same but maybe not.
I’d rather the season be 90% fun that ends in heartbreak than just flat out suck and end in the NIT.What about being constantly beat by under seeded teams? It's ok to get by a seed that's higher, but to constantly get beat by lower seeds?
That has to become tiring, and makes someone question the common denominator.
I feel like I should apologize for 2012.I’d rather the season be 90% fun that ends in heartbreak than just flat out suck and end in the NIT.
I’ve said it before on this board but it’s harder to be a fan of KU than it is for any other program I can think of. They’re always a contender. Always. And then they always seem to get upset in the tournament. No other fans can relate to us in that way. Going from Cloud 9 to out of the tournament every season isn’t even something Indiana fans have to endure.
Nah, 2012 ended just fine. That was one of the better teams of the decade they lost to and that KU team overachieved. I’m talking more about the times their opponent plays their peak game of the year. Bradley couldn’t stop hitting 3’s. VCU couldn’t stop hitting 3’s. Oregon, Villanova, Auburn. They hit everything they threw up. Those teams literally played their best they had all season for a long enough stretch than KU wasn’t able to overcome the deficit. Nobody else has had that bad of luck.I feel like I should apologize for 2012.
Not to mention you guys have had a string of injuries and bs NCAA ...whats the word. where they hold guys out but later let them play.Nah, 2012 ended just fine. That was one of the better teams of the decade they lost to and that KU team overachieved. I’m talking more about the times their opponent plays their peak game of the year. Bradley couldn’t stop hitting 3’s. VCU couldn’t stop hitting 3’s. Oregon, Villanova, Auburn. They hit everything they threw up. Those teams literally played their best they had all season for a long enough stretch than KU wasn’t able to overcome the deficit. Nobody else has had that bad of luck.
It’s all just part of the game, I guess. 5+ years ago those teams that lost seemed to come into the games playing pretty tight. I’m pretty sure Self has taken responsibility for that. I think he’s learned to adjust how he prepares them for those elimination games. The results have been a lot better since then and you can see it in how the team runs their game.Not to mention you guys have had a string of injuries and bs NCAA ...whats the word. where they hold guys out but later let them play.
Last year alone. Azubuike's injury derailed you whole season.
It's so cliche but the best we all can hope for is get great players and compete at a high level. KU seems to be due for some good luck.It’s all just part of the game, I guess. 5+ years ago those teams that lost seemed to come into the games playing pretty tight. I’m pretty sure Self has taken responsibility for that. I think he’s learned to adjust how he prepares them for those elimination games. The results have been a lot better since then and you can see it in how the team runs their game.
Yeah. They’re probably due for some luck in the tournament as long as they keep having top 5 teams.It's so cliche but the best we all can hope for is get great players and compete at a high level. KU seems to be due for some good luck.
It poses the question, would you be okay if your team was a number one that loses to a 16 if it would mean the championship the next year?
Most people on this board are not mentally tough enough to handle a loss to a 16 seed.
The joy of winning it all trumped the misery of losing to a 16 seed for me. I’m not sure the championship feels as good without that loss though.
When DePaul finally wins another national championship after a nearly 40 year free fall from national power to national joke it will trump all the euphoria you experienced from rebounding from ONE very disappointing game.
What about being constantly beat by under seeded teams? It's ok to get by a seed that's higher, but to constantly get beat by lower seeds?
That has to become tiring, and makes someone question the common denominator.
I'd rather go to the NIT than get rolled by a 16 seed.
Going to the NIT isn't historically embarrassing. And 16 seeds are usually much worse than the average NIT team.